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CVS edit

If you don't mind, I'd like to remove the mention of the california rail standards in the CVS article. It's not clear that they did this to hamper PRT's, nor does it seem particularly noteworthy in context. Any complaints? Maury Markowitz (talk) 15:01, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

I just cleaned up the cits in the article, do what you will. -- Esemono (talk) 01:58, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Shockley–Queisser limit - question

Maury: In the 14 January 2009 edit of your article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shockley–Queisser_limit you placed the text:

With silicon, this limiting rate is reached quite quickly, at less than "two suns" of incident light. If twice as much light is sent onto such a cell, the production rate is only slightly higher than with one sun, so the ratio of input energy to output is lower, representing a much lower efficiency. For this reason, it is not economically feasible to use mirrors or lenses to increase the production from a simple cell

Could you direct me to more information on this topic? I'm particularly interested in any references that quantify this limiting rate effect in silicon. Thank you in advance.

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Hovercraft

Oh dear! I think some major confusion has crept in here: Denys Bliss (a protege and close associate of Cockerill) - and Laithwaite were deadly rivals, but the two competing projects appear to have become somehow merged in the Tracked_Hovercraft article. It was Bliss (supported by McAlpine) whose project near Cambridge was ultimately axed by Heseltine; whilst Laithwaite was the man behind the Maglev system. Sadly I do not have the time nor the engineering history background to correct these errors, but I hope you can check them and correct as required because the current article is grossly misleading. My main personal interest is that Bliss was my father in law from my first marriage. See also: [1] - and there are various other refences to Bliss' work anmd patents in this field.

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You may well be right: great rivals have often been close collaborators in their past, and I never met Bliss until 1980 or 1981, by which time these two had become bitter rivals. It's a shame how little material is available online to cross check my now distant recollections of events. He was a fine chap, son of a fenland farming family, technical college not university educated, not at all stuffy, pipe smoking, always in his study tinkering with drawings and slide-rules. Bliss died in around 1985 of a sudden and completely unexpected coronary - he was only 57 or so. McAlpine had axed his project, and he found the threat of unemployment very hard to bear, dying a few days before his redundancy came into effect - a sad end to a fine but frustrating career as a genuine innovator. He left his wife and three daughters Excalibur (talk) 21:45, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

-- You write: "So what's the chance we can track down some of the McAlpine work? I wrote to them, but as normal, was ignored". I honestly dont know, McAlpines may well not be keen to have their failures publicised, or they may be keen to keep the patents and designs secret for a later date. I believe that this one one of the new projects given to one of McAlpines sons to run as part of a diversification/research and development programme - a sort of early "Dragons Den" idea: - along with Lamberhurst vineyard in Kent and other high-risk schemes. Following the trials, Bliss was absolutely convinced that his system was a potential futuristic solution and alternative to conventional high speed rail - he saw the elevated tracks running over existing rail and motorway networks and envisaged inter-city speeds well in excess of 200 mph. There were some wonderful drawings and technical papers in his study - the family may even have preserved some. He also saw the potential to solve urban light rail problems with suburban overhead systems as an alternative to trams. These were all suspended beneath the rails using a vacuum-system rather than above the rails, and exceptionally light and low in energy use. He was understandably devastated when it was axed in the mid 1980's, but it would have required billions to see taken forward into a commercially viable system and he was basically working almost on his own. I believe there was considerable interest from the USA and China, but he was British to the core and could not imagine "selling out" to another nation. At the end I think his heart was broken - literally. There is a fine Telegraph obituary, but I don't have a copy or access to their archives. Excalibur (talk) 12:02, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

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F-20 text problems

Would take a look at F-20 Tigershark#Close paraphrase? You added a large amount of material to the article last year (which I have not trolled through), and I'm hoping you have the orignal book, and can shed some light on the questions being raised here. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 02:42, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

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Would you be interested in advising?

Could you look at the most recent addition to Talk:Torpedo and give advice pls. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.152.171.61 (talk) 23:39, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

The Silver Bug

For most parts, "Project Silver Bug" was a fleeting name most associated with the Y-2/early WS-606A project and really does not relate back to the Avrocar. I know I'm a stickler here but if the Silver Bug and other names are associated with the later VZ-9-AV Avrocar, it makes the reader think that there is a direct correlation, which is really not the case. The name does not continue to be associated with the Avrocar which was a "proof-of-concept" test vehicle for the later Private Venture AV-704 or the later WS-606A derivatives. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 20:36, 1 February 2010 (UTC).

Sure, but I don't want to have separate articles for these other non-built vehicles. They're already covered in the article anyway. I'm going to take a stab at the intro, which seems to be the main problem. Maury Markowitz (talk) 02:36, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

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Explanation

Hi. I saw your note at User talk:VernoWhitney, and since I also work copyright problems on Wikipedia thought that I might be able to help clarify. Wikipedia's copyright policies prohibit importing content from copyrighted sources, except that brief excerpts may be used if they are clearly marked as quotations and used for good reason, as set out at non-free content policy and guideline (NFC).

Looking at the article that has been tagged for a problem, I see for instance that you have this text:

Extended content

He then was retained to survey the Montreal, Ottawa and Georgian Bay Navigation that ran from Georgian Bay to, and down, the Ottawa River to Ottawa and thence to Montreal. This was followed by a contract to build the East and West Block Parliament Buildings in Ottawa.

The source says:

He then was retained to survey the Montreal, Ottawa and Georgian Bay Navigation that ran from Georgian Bay to, and down, the Ottawa River to Ottawa and thence to Montreal. This was followed by a contract to build the East and West Block Parliament Buildings in Ottawa.

This is directly copied from the source but it is not marked as a quotation and the content does not seem to accord with WP:NFC.

Compare also the following. The article says:

In late 1887 Clarke resigned from the Union Bridge Company and went into private consulting. Early in 1890, Clarke was retained by the New Orleans Terminal Railway and Bridge Company to design a railroad bridge across the Mississippi near New Orleans.... The financial panic of 1893, along with resistance by the Secretary of War, resulted in no action being taken on these designs.

The source says:

In late 1887...Clarke resigned from the Union Bridge Company and went into private consulting. Early in 1890, Clarke was retained by the New Orleans Terminal Railway and Bridge Company to design a railroad bridge across the Mississippi near New Orleans. The financial panic of 1893, along with resistance by the Secretary of War, resulted in no action being taken on his design.

I have omitted a few passages to make it clearer that in addition to retaining much of the language of the original, you are also utilizing the same structure. Structure, like language, is a creative element of writing subject to copyright protection under the U.S. laws that govern Wikipedia.

There are other problematic passages in the article, I'm afraid, including this:

Over the next several years, they built many major bridges including the Poughkeepsie Cantilever Bridge over the Hudson River that opened in 1889. They also built the Hawkesbury Bridge in Australia, beating out many bridge-building firms in a major international competition. The bridge had seven spans of 416 feet each, for a total length of 2,910 feet. Five piers were sunk to then record depths of between 150 to 160 feet below high water. The bridge officially opened on May 1, 1889.

Compare to the source:

Over the next several years, they built many major bridges including the Poughkeepsie Cantilever Bridge over the Hudson River that opened in 1889. ...They also built the Hawkesbury Bridge in Australia, beating out many bridge-building firms in a major international competition. The bridge had seven spans of 416 feet each, for a total length of 2,910 feet. Five piers were sunk to then record depths of between 150 to 160 feet below high water. The bridge officially opened on May 1, 1889.

And this:

The Willis Avenue Bridge was built to replace an existing bridge and was only one half mile away from the Third Avenue Bridge. Clarke was named Engineer in 1894, and funds were approved for its construction in the same year. Clarke designed a swing bridge with a length of 304 feet.... It opened 22 August 1901, two months after Clarke’s death.

Compare to the source:

The Willis Avenue Bridge was built to replace an existing bridge and was only one half mile away from the Third Avenue Bridge. Clarke was named Engineer in 1894, and funds were approved for its construction in the same year. Clarke designed a swing bridge with a length of 304 feet.... It opened August 22, 1901, two months after Clarke’s death.

The essay Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing contains some suggestions for rewriting that may help avoid these issues. The article Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2009-04-13/Dispatches, while about plagiarism rather than copyright concerns, also contains some suggestions for reusing material from sources that may be helpful, beginning under "Avoiding plagiarism".

Alternatively, if the material can be verified to be public domain or permission is provided, we can use the original text with proper attribution. Even if text is copied from a usable source, we do need that attribution to avoid violating the guideline at Wikipedia:Plagiarism. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:27, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

I believe all of these have been addressed. Please examine the new version. Maury Markowitz (talk) 11:34, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
I see you are still working on it, which is good, because I note that it still retains language from the original. I got down as far as "He began his engineering career on the Mobile and Ohio Railroad, followed by work on Ogdensburg and Lake Champlain Railroad in northern New York." The source says, "He began his engineering career on the Mobile and Ohio Railroad, followed by work on Ogdensburg and Lake Champlain Railroad in Northern New York." The kind of incremental rewrite you are doing is pretty challenging, which is why the template that used to blank the article recommends rewriting it from scratch: "Note that simply modifying copyrighted text is not sufficient to avoid copyright infringement—if the original copyright violation cannot be clearly identified and the article reverted to a prior version, it is best to write the article from scratch." Incremental alterations to copyrighted text can create an unauthorized derivative work, as only the copyright holder has the right to modify copyrighted material (unless, of course, it's licensed under something like CC-By-SA :)). It's also just plain hard, because the structure, too, is protected. Sentence by sentence revision may change the language, but not the creative arrangement of the facts.
I also see that other passages are still copied from the source, unchanged. I did not isolate every instance of copying above, but only gave you examples. For instance, the article still says:

It would replace a bridge that was built in 1868 of iron with only a clearance of five feet above high tide. He designed a bridge with a 300-foot swing span, flanked by two 115-foot plate girder spans and masonry approach spans for a total length of 2,800 feet.

The source says:

It would replace a bridge that was built in 1868 of iron with only a clearance of five feet above high tide. He designed a bridge with a 300-foot swing span, flanked by two 115-foot plate girder spans and masonry approach spans for a total length of 2,800 feet.

(Let me add that there may be other problems. Again, this is an example.)
I'll split out the proposed replacement into the temporary space, to avoid publishing it while a usable rewrite is achieved. The "copyright problem" template helps prevent it being mirrored in the meantime. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:51, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Evidently, you are now offline. :) I just wanted to note that this is not an emergency situation. The whole WP:CP process was created to allow time to address the situation rather than simply deleting the problematic content. I'm watching your talk page, so I should see any notes you leave me here, but I am a wee bit distracted at the moment as I'm getting ready to take a "real life" (and Wikipedia!) vacation in two weeks. Suddenly my day job is making demands. :P If I can help and I don't seem to notice, please feel free to ping me at my talk page. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:25, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
I am confused, why was the new version moved to temp? Maury Markowitz (talk) 18:14, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Well, because it wasn't usable. I could have blanked it again with the template, but the temporary space rewrite is standard procedure.
I'm not sure when it was developed, but it's been in action since long before I started working heavily in that area almost two years ago. Unless they qualify for speedy deletion, articles with foundational copyright problems (like this one, with no clean version to revert to) are blanked or obscured once they are identified, particularly because of the danger of downstream content reuse, but also to avoid failure of "due diligence". Given your longevity on the project (8 years? Wow!), I'm sure you know it's widely mirrored. Not only are we reproduced in other websites, but we're also reprinted in books, and we encourage that, of course, so long as the licensing terms are met. While Wikipedia can legally shelter behind the DMCA at this point, removing the copyrighted content with little difficulty, our downstream reusers may not find it so easy or inexpensive to resolve copyright problems if they happen to capture a copyright violating article and reprint it. In Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content and Wikipedia:C#Reusers' rights and obligations, we tell our consumers that our content is free for reuse, so we have a responsibility not to mislead them where this is not true. The template blanking the article can help avoid our misleading them.
Too, our position as an "online service provider" has been informally challenged in the past. If it is ever successfully legally challenged, then DMCA will also no longer apply to us, and we will be as liable for prosecution as any publisher. Our best defense against infringement (as a publisher) will be to show that we exercised due diligence in identifying and eradicating copyright issues.
Alternatively, of course, we could just delete these articles immediately. As it says at the bottom of every edit screen, "Content that violates any copyrights will be deleted." This would certainly be less labor for the admins who work the area. :) But this procedure helps keep the project and those who reuse it from legal difficulty while at the same time, I'd guess, seeming a bit more friendly to contributors than speedy deletion. Many of them have permission for the text they use and just need to fulfill the conditions of the Terms of Use. Others violate the copyright policy due to misunderstanding it or the copyright laws behind it. (AGF even has a special section on copyright problems pointing that out, WP:AGFC.)
If the articles blanked and listed at CP are rewritten, they are replaced. If permission is provided, they are restored. If neither of the above, they are deleted. If the rewrite had been usable, I would have just selectively deleted the earlier versions of the article's history and left the usable content, but since the rewrite was also a copyright problem could not.
Anyway, this got very long. Sorry. Talking short is never easy for me to begin with, but the copyright procedures have become an area I know well. :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:57, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
No, I mean why was the new, completely re-written one move to temp? It would appear the second last statement of your post would apply, no? I find it very difficult to believe you actually concluded that "the rewrite was also a copyright problem", and I suspect you didn't diff it enough. Maury Markowitz (talk) 00:53, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Because it wasn't new and completely rewritten. I moved it to temp at 11:53, here. As I said above, at that point it included the text: "He began his engineering career on the Mobile and Ohio Railroad, followed by work on Ogdensburg and Lake Champlain Railroad in northern New York." The source says, "He began his engineering career on the Mobile and Ohio Railroad, followed by work on Ogdensburg and Lake Champlain Railroad in Northern New York." It also included the following:

It would replace a bridge that was built in 1868 of iron with only a clearance of five feet above high tide. He designed a bridge with a 300-foot swing span, flanked by two 115-foot plate girder spans and masonry approach spans for a total length of 2,800 feet.

The source says:

It would replace a bridge that was built in 1868 of iron with only a clearance of five feet above high tide. He designed a bridge with a 300-foot swing span, flanked by two 115-foot plate girder spans and masonry approach spans for a total length of 2,800 feet.

These diffs were plenty enough to show me that the article is still a problem under our copyright policy. You can't copy content from non-free sources unless it accords with WP:NFC. New and completely rewriting would mean that it had been put entirely into your words and structure, retaining none of the language or creative structure of the source, unless brief and clearly marked quotations were used "to illustrate a point, establish context, or attribute a point of view or idea." --Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:10, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. And as I said, those were just examples. I also see that at the time I moved it, it included the following:

In late 1887 Clarke resigned from the Union Bridge Company and went into private consulting. Early in 1890, Clarke was hired by the New Orleans Terminal Railway and Bridge Company to design a railroad bridge across the Mississippi near New Orleans.... The financial panic of 1893, along with resistance by the Secretary of War, resulted in no action being taken on these designs.

The source says:

In late 1887...Clarke resigned from the Union Bridge Company and went into private consulting. Early in 1890, Clarke was retained by the New Orleans Terminal Railway and Bridge Company to design a railroad bridge across the Mississippi near New Orleans. The financial panic of 1893, along with resistance by the Secretary of War, resulted in no action being taken on his design.

Your temp space article still retains this content. While some material differs in both, it may be more obvious comparing them side by side how closely this follows on the original. Again, there may be more. I'm just spotlighting examples. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:25, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
So what is happening now? I don't see any action being taken by anyone. Is something supposed to happen automatically now? Or should I just move it? Maury Markowitz (talk) 20:23, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Items are listed on WP:CP for a week. If you'd like, I'll ask a different admin to review it early. It's best to have it done by somebody uninvolved. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:00, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I'm the different admin and had a look. I know this will sound dreadfully discouraging but unfortunately, starting with the second sentence of the biographical sketch, the rewrite is unuseable. This is unfortunately an effect that happens all the time when text is copy / pasted then paraphrased, and we see that all the time: a honest good faith effort is made and the contributor is going to be certain that he addressed all remaining issues, but unfortunately, when someone else reviews the text with a fresh eye, the source appears again, clear as the sun. To make things worse, with each attempt, it becomes more difficult to write things differently, and with biographies, the additional challenge is tied to the fact that all significant life events are flowing in a fixed chronology.
My advice at this stage is to re-read your three sources, then take two days off the topic completely. After that, imagine talking to a 10-year old child and telling him about Clark (or grab a friend and tell him). Write that down. It should work better. MLauba (Talk) 13:55, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Uhhh, sorry, can you be more specific. Which second para are you referring to? "While living in" or "He enroled"? I am getting more and more confused. Maury Markowitz (talk) 15:03, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
OMG, you removed the entire temp article? You did realize that the main quoted source is in the public domain, right? Maury Markowitz (talk) 15:07, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Looking myself, I imagine he's talking about such content as this:

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  • Article: "He began his engineering career on the Mobile and Ohio Railroad, followed by work on Ogdensburg and Lake Champlain Railroad in northern New York."
  • Source: "He began his engineering career on the Mobile and Ohio Railroad, followed by work on Ogdensburg and Lake Champlain Railroad in Northern New York."
  • Article: "He returned to the United States in 1866, and began his bridge building career as Chief Engineer on the Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad bridge over the Mississippi River at Quincy, Illinois."
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  • Article: "In late 1887 Clarke resigned from the Union Bridge Company and went into private consulting. Early in 1890, Clarke was hired by the New Orleans Terminal Railway and Bridge Company to design a railroad bridge across the Mississippi near New Orleans.... The financial panic of 1893, along with resistance by the Secretary of War, resulted in both designs being dropped."
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  • Article: "Construction began in late 1893, and the bridge opened on 1 August 1898. The bridge was rehabilitated in 1953 when the Third Avenue Elevated was removed."
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As I did before, I've removed some text to make clearer the structural patterns that replicate, as well as duplicated language. And I'm very sorry for cluttering up your page. :) (I've collapsed some of my content in the hopes of improving the situation.) I thought that a more complete analysis might be helpful. You having been here for a billion years know that you can remove it whenever it outlives its usefulness.

Rewriting content can sometimes be a real pain. This is part of what I do professionally, and even so it sometimes makes me want to pull my hair out. While it seems like more work to pull the content and start from scratch, it's actually a whole lot easier than revising passage by passage. Even if you alter every word, you can still wind up with a "derivative work" copyright violation if creative elements remain intact. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:25, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Seconding MRG's comments above, and to respond to your note about main source being PD, I'm sorry to say that as far as I've seen, Structuremag, where most of the content has been copied from and then paraphrased a tiny wee bit, is clearly not public domain. MLauba (Talk) 16:39, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
The New York Times article clearly IS in the public domain, and as most of the content was referenced to that source, including the Structurmag article... you know what, screw it. Delete it. Maury Markowitz (talk) 18:07, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Maury, the problem is not the source you use to reference the text, it's the source you use to write the content. MLauba (Talk) 21:10, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

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I was wondering if you would mind if I took a stab at some major edits in Fallen Dragon. It was one of your earlier efforts, so I suspect your writing style has changed since then anyway, but I always hate when someone deletes lots of material without at least a note on the talk page, so I figure I'll take that right to the source. Maury Markowitz (talk) 12:18, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Perfectly all right. I am aware that it is dodgy. Thue | talk 14:37, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Comments? Suggestions? Flaming arrows? Maury Markowitz (talk) 00:53, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
I made a few changes. The resulting article seems fine to me. Thue | talk 11:16, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

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As an experienced editor, you should know it's not what you say it's how you say it. Just the line "Light Peak is much faster, longer ranged, smaller, and more flexible in terms of protocol support." is a bold claim, especially the last bit. Even the start should be referenced. Also "increasing bandwidth demands have led to .. that USB and similar systems can not address" - no reference. Perhaps a cite tag or two is better, or perhaps ref 3 will suffice for most things. Knee-jerk tagging, maybe - but it doesn't read right. --Dancraggs 15:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
So cite the first occurrences, as per WP:CITE. --Dancraggs 19:10, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

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Hardly. "Free use because the product is no longer made and therefore has no commercial value. Image of the box cannot be made without taking an image of the box." That's one of the weirdest things I've ever read. This may be helpful... J Milburn (talk) 18:17, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
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I don't have specific examples of this tactic occurring outside of the US, but I come from France and it sounded like this could happen here. If you believe the term is specific to the US, maybe we could say it explicitly in the introduction.--Yitscar (talk) 13:41, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

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I like what you're adding to this article. Just a small request: could you apply equivalent changes to the related individual articles (eg Thomas Savery)? I would expect that the History article will eventually grow to the point that it becomes a high-level page, summarising the history with Main links to the detail pages. If you can update these other pages at the same time it will save effort later. Cheers. EdJogg (talk) 12:30, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!. Now that older books on the history are appearing on Google Books I can attack this a lot better than when I first went at it. Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:54, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

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Regarding the above image. It appears that you got it here. Why are you listed as the author? I assuming either you took the picture or got permission from the photographer. It would also be great if you could provide a higher resolution image (such as the one on railpictures.net) and one without a time stamp (if possible), as well as uploading it to Wikimedia Commons. --Samuell Lift me up or put me down 23:30, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

I see. I don't know what from you used as there are tons of them, but it's not important. At the moment you are listed as the author. I am correct in assuming you have some form of communication from the author indicating the license? Samuell Lift me up or put me down 01:46, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Awesome, could you follow the instructions here for providing proof of permission, and if possible upload a higher resolution copy. Samuell Lift me up or put me down 23:09, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

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If you are interested in taking ZETA to FA, you should email james@physics.usyd.edu.au to having him confirm the licensing information on the other image on the page - see WP:CONSENT. (This also would not be a bad idea generally, so that there is less chance the image will be deleted later...) Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

The problem is that the uploader is not the author, and there is no verifiable evidence that the author gave permission. WP is starting to get stricter about this, and this image probably wouldn't be okay in a FA. The license information on the page is also contradictory (author gave permission for both GFDL and PD). The best practice is to have the author directly mail the WP:OTRS volunteers using a well-phrased release from WP:CONSENT so that the permission is logged and there are no questions later. Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:03, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

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Materialscientist (talk) 12:04, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Light fighter for deletion

The article Light fighter is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Light fighter until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Marcus Qwertyus 21:57, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk: RE: rewrite tags for Sceptre and Perhapsatron

Greetings Maury, 

       The Sceptre article has grammatical issues right in the opening section, through the last one. Perhapsatron just needs a little bit of cleanup. Hence the tags.

Here's an example, from the Sceptre article: "Sceptre was an of early fusion power device based the Z-pinch concept of plasma"

and here's another one: 

"The team worked on the problems associated with using metal tubes with high voltages, in support of the efforts at Harwell"

This should have been : "The team worked on the problems associated with using metal tubes at high voltages"

I'm pretty sure that a little bit of tinkering would render more readability here.


Funkfan 14:00, 20 December 2010 (UTC)ASatya82

Regards,

Bombardier Advanced Rapid Transit Article

Hi

In your edit the section "===Linear motor===" has "Manual control" just hanging there at the end of the paragraph. Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 20:26, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

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Re:

Thanks Maury. I'm new here and I'm still going through the proper procedures, which is why I didn't do it myself. Also, will be more careful with the tags next time. Cheers. Funkfan 05:31, 21 December 2010 (UTC)Asatya82

LRC and HST

Hi Maury Markowitz. You asked me some time ago to add some citations to the LRC article in respect of the APT and I've started to do so, but I did not add anything regarding a claimed link with the HST. That was done by an IP User not me and is unreferenced. I will do some more work on adding APT citations after Christmas, but I will not being adding anything about the HST (well if I do it will have a citation). Pyrotec (talk) 14:57, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Merry, merry

Bzuk (talk) 20:08, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Transwiki of Beach bunny

Hello, Maury Markowitz. I have added a template to the page Beach bunny requesting that it be transferred to Wiktionary, as the page appears to meet Wiktionary's criteria for inclusion. Your comments at AfD:Buckle bunny suggest that you may disagree with such action. If that is the case, you may want to remove the template. Happy editing, Cnilep (talk) 10:49, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

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Do restaurant reviews count as "significant coverage" of the reviewed restaurants?

FYI, I started a thread on this question at the Notability guidelines.  --Lambiam 08:36, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

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