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A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	For your hard work in persevering despite recent chaos at a certain strange noticeboard. That was very strange! MPS1992 (talk) 20:42, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

@MPS1992: thanks very much, I appreciate that a lot. I know right.. I had gone to sleep before the shocking gotcha moment was revealed. It was quite a plot twist in an exhausting event. —MelbourneStar☆^talk 05:28, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

qadah-e pain

i edit for better make this region, it is in my town,ilam abdanan. i live here too.thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.233.253.248 (talk) 07:30, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

@5.233.253.248: with respect, this is not English and does not belong in an article, or anywhere, for that matter. —MelbourneStar☆^talk 07:54, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

President of the United Nations

Hey Mate, My edits are correct and has accurate information. If you want edit something can you please read the latest news on whats happening before you change something. I have proof that my edit is accurate you can go to this website and check http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=54912#.V9pWS_l97IU. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jvfmgnlllj (talk • contribs) 08:09, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi @Jvfmgnlllj: the onus is on you, actually, to use an edit summary and explain why you are removing sourced content — common courtesy. If you were to continue to remove sourced content without an explanation, you would likely have been blocked from editing for removing content without an explanation. So you're welcome that I notified you. Kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 09:09, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of Janis Joplin comment

Hi MelbourneStar,

Recently you deleted my comment on the Janis Joplin page. I understand that my comment was not productive to the page, but the reason I wanted to put it in is because I think it can contribute in a different capacity. My comment was a piece of information from the show "30 Rock." In one episode, Frank rank Lutz and Frank Rossitano put on the Janis Joplin Wiki page to confuse their coworker Jenna Maroney who was doing "the method" form of acting for her role. I think this little comment, maybe more strategically hidden (sorry I just got on Wikipedia), could be used as an easter egg on Wikipedia. Little jokes like this will give users a fun activity to get them to be more accustomed to searching pages in wikipedia.

Also "Janis Joplin speedwalked everywhere and was afraid of toilets" is a pretty hilarious and harmless line.

Best,

mattai — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattaispeakstruth (talk • contribs) 21:20, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi @Mattaispeakstruth:

I've had to undo your edit, because it was unconstructive. On an encyclopedia like Wikipedia, we strive for accuracy and value in content – hence, there is no room whatsoever for jokes. It may be hilarious and harmless – I agree. But that's not the standard Wikipedia is looking for, I'm afraid. Feel free to edit articles, and add interesting facts (do so with reliable sources of course); but please no more jokes.

Thanks, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 08:30, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Rajampet

hi this is balaji chundu i was updated the content in rajampet wiki page .this is 100% true .if you and your organization need physical proof for this content plz refer the ancient books available in chunduvaripalli village of rajampet mandal or archaeology department tirumala or sanskrit vidyapeeth tirupathi there you will get ancient book of the village

plzz upload the content thanking you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chundu balaji chowdary (talk • contribs) 07:25, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello @Chundu balaji chowdary:

On Wikipedia, it is the responsibility of the editor who adds content to cite reliable sources. Another editor, myself, or the reader can't find the sources for you, you must find the sources for the content you wish to add. So, if you're able to provide specific citations to verify the content you wish to add in to the Rajampet page (or any other article) – please feel free to do so. Otherwise, such content will be removed if it's unreferenced. Kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 08:30, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

On Kate Goehring's Page

Hello,and thank you for your help! We were trying to consolidate the categories on Kate Goehring and mistakenly deleted parts of the background. We are working to restore those. At the same time, we noticed extraneous comments about Donald Trump, which clearly showed up in error. Perhaps in attempting to remove those, we also inadvertently removed data.

Again, so many thanks for your input. We hope we've clarified and streamlined, in honor of accuracy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IsMael1920 (talk • contribs) 14:31, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi @IsMael1920: could you please let me know by whom you mean "we"? —MelbourneStar☆^talk 14:35, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi, there. Yes - grad school paper and fans of this actor's work. Certainly didn't intend to be disruptive. We'll stop attempting updates and thank you for your help! Do let us know, if we should delete all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IsMael1920 (talk • contribs) 12:14, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Jan Vayne

Hello MelboureStar...many thanks for your message...No. You were just doing your job...and you did it real well. Will try harder to improve my 'references'. Cheers, Axel Bear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Axel Bear (talk • contribs) 21:14, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Brian Eno

Here is the source for my edit. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/sep/07/brian-eno-israeli-dance-company-batsheva-use-music Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.81.195.27 (talk) 02:02, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

@69.81.195.27: That's great. So then the next time you add/change content to the said article, please cite sources like the one you've just provided. Regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 11:48, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Senate election results fail to mention bipartisan senate resolutions to use alternative method

Hi, regarding your removal of my comments here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Australian_federal_election

I appreciate the need for neutrality, but these are important and relevant facts I was presenting

• that the major parties went against their own bipartisan resolutions of 1998 and 2010
• that this altered the election outcome by giving them an extra seat each after 2019
• that the media (and thanks to your edits, wikipedia) failed to report on this.

Can you suggest an edit that presents the facts concisely while remaining neutral, or do you consider the facts themselves to be a problem?

Oz freediver (talk) 23:21, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

@Oz freediver: Neutrality on Wikipedia trumps your importance for 'the facts' on Wikipedia, period. We are not a newspaper, we're not a political advocacy group, we are an encyclopaedia.

Secondly, the content you wish to add in -- must be verified by reliable sources. You can't add in your opinion, your collation of the facts -- without citing reliable sources which support the claim(s).

Could I provide a neutral re-word of the non-neutral content you had added in, off the top of my head? no, I can't, unfortunately. But, the onus is on you to write the content you wish to add in a neutral tone -- just as it is your responsibility to find and cite reliable sources.

Hope that makes sense. Kindly, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 02:59, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Are you suggesting the three bullet points I made above are not facts? What responsibility do you bear for the extremely biased and misleading version that you restored it to?

Oz freediver (talk) 03:41, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

@Oz freediver: Absolutely, I am doubting those points. Why? because you are still yet to provide reliable sources to back them up. Please do so.

The preceding revision that I had restored did not contain non-neutral content -- yours did. —MelbourneStar☆^talk 03:55, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

See? I hope it wasn't too difficult to cut the non-neutral bits out of your edit, and add sources. Cut and thrust, I understand; but we just can't afford to sound like we're taking sides. —MelbourneStar☆^talk 03:57, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

WTF? Now someone else has removed my edits, this time without explanation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_federal_election,_2016

Oz freediver (talk) 11:42, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

These things happen time to time. @Oz freediver: perhaps you ought to ask them as to why they undid your edit. Their talk page is here. —MelbourneStar☆^talk 11:47, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

I see you're brand new to wikipedia so i'll go easy on you, except to say that your edits are clear WP:SOAPBOX. MelbourneStar above has said enough already. I'll leave it at that. Timeshift (talk) 12:30, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

MS appears to support my edits in their latest form. Do you? Are we supposed to not mention that the decision goes against two bipartisan senate resolutions, and only say that it is consistent with convention? That would be a bit misleading and biased don't you think?

Stop hogging all the vandal edits for yourself!

Seriously, I can't get one good vandal edit without you coming in and taking them away from me. :P Your Anti-Vandal game is on fire today. CyanoTex (talk) 14:01, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Sorry @CyanoTex: -- could not help myself! ;) I'll probably take a step back for now, and let someone else step in. Kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 14:11, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks

As you can imagine, I'm new to editing Wikipedia. I appreciate the helpful links. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.39.203.128 (talk) 15:03, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

@73.39.203.128: welcome!

I hope they help. Also, please don't forget to use edit summaries -- that will explain to editors your [wonderful] edits! Kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 15:06, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Blindspot

Hi,

I received your message about the alternative title for an episode of Blindspot. My apologies for not including my source.

Here is the link : http://www.tvshowtime.com/show/295647/episode/5736184/comment/4543859?ref=3a776fa6062765d2490be62865a249e4/

Sorry again,

Sincerely Lucas — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.56.10.73 (talk) 09:33, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

@81.56.10.73: That's alright Lucas!

Please ensure you add said source next time you edit. Kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 11:01, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

melissa Breen's page

I was a bit disappointed to have you censor the changes I made to her page. I feel my inserts were appropriate as they were informative as to her progress over the years. Mentioning weakenesses as such don't equate to hate mail. What it does is simply provide more than just basic information so that the article could mean so much more to people (i.e. most) who don't follow track more than for every Olympic Games or so. Anyway, your call. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.106.25.70 (talk) 07:17, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi @122.106.25.70: welcome to Wikipedia,

I undid your edits because they were unconstructive. On Wikipedia, negative or controversial content -- must be verified by reliable sources, especially with pertinence to biographies of living people. Unfortunately, the edits you made could have be considered libelous towards the subject, and hence: they needed to be immediately removed. Regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 14:26, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

October 6th 1995

I literally just wanted to add that fact for one day, October 6th, so that I can make a funny tweet about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.9.220.107 (talk) 04:45, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

@147.9.220.107: Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion, and will not be used as such for your Twitter. Have a nice day, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 04:55, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	For fighting vandalism at White Rose of York. -- AI RPer (talk) 14:00, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you @AI RPer: that's very kind of you. Have a great day, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 14:03, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Ralph Munro

Dear MelbourneStar,

I work for Mr. Ralph Munro. He wrote his bio, and I said in my comments that I was updating and expanding the text per his request.

How can I convince you that Mr. Munro's revised bio should be allowed to stand? He is a living politician, and he wrote the entry.

Please, please allow me to make the changes he requested. Jannutting (talk) 04:25, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Please note, that simply adding references at the end of the article (instead of citing them as you go --Ie. at the end of a sentence) will not be acceptable, and the content will be removed. Please refer to WP:INCITE. Also, please do not remove content that is already present within the article and verified by reliable sources. Kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆talk 04:21, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Please help me to understand. Is it true that a living political figure cannot modify the information presented about himself? Mr. Munro edited/authored the entire updated article, and I cannot imagine anyone more qualified to verify that the information is correct. I would understand the need to cite individual sentences if they were authored by or taken from different sources, but the entire article was authored by Mr. Munro.

I am sincerely not trying to be difficult. I work for him and am trying very hard to do what he asked me to do.

Thank you. Jannutting (talk) 04:34, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi @Jannutting: and welcome to Wikipedia!

There are numerous issues with allowing such content to be in said article.

Conflict of interest: the subject of the article should not be editing or having someone add content on their behalf to their article. Such content must be discussed on the article's talk page, wherein an independent editor will either pursue all, parts, or none of the content put forward.

Secondly, the edits one has made are clearly promotional -- Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of advertising an individual, place, company etc. Content must be written in a neutral point of view, period.

Furthermore, you cannot remove content without establishing consensus supporting your reasoning for removing content.

Please note, that content on Wikipedia depends on verifiable reliable sources – please use inline references when adding citations, so each claim made is verifiable to the reader.

I understand things aren't as easy as they seem -- I assure you I'm not trying to be difficult either, it's just that we have strict processes we must follow on Wikipedia. Best, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 04:38, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Karate Page

Hi Melbourne Star thanks for your update. The above article is only to give the reference on how SKI India evovled under the guidance of Sensei Subramanian, who won 3 rd place in SKI world championship in 2016 - Jakartha. You are please to welcome if you suggest any edit on the same.

Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajaymadhvaraj (talk • contribs) 14:35, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi @Ajaymadhvaraj: Wikipedia is not a soapbox, or a vehicle to advertise or showcase the company you are writing for in the Karate article. Please cease this, as such edits will automatically be undone and you may lose your editing privileges. Regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 11:48, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Pocahontas

Hello — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:7F00:A800:132:39FE:FB84:F5AA:7C52 (talk) 10:26, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi @2405:7F00:A800:132:39FE:FB84:F5AA:7C52: if you continue to make disruptive unconstructive edits as you have done over on the Pocahontas article, you may lose your editing privileges. Regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 11:48, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Anas Saleem

Hello, I was about to nominate the page for AfD when I saw that you restored the speedy tag that had been removed. Do you think that the person who removed it is the same person as the page creator? 331dot (talk) 12:24, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi @331dot: I certainly believe the two users are the same person; the newly created account Markzinger edited the user page of Andreabanks6 ([1]) -- the creator of the CSD tagged article. Both new accounts... it seems like WP:DUCK to me. I don't mind having the tag removed and an AfD proceeding if you'd prefer that. Kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 12:28, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

I have no problem with it, I figured you probably knew something I didn't. Just wanted to make sure. :) 331dot (talk) 12:33, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

That's alright :) we'll keep an eye on the page, and if the tag is declined -- feel free to AfD it. Regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 12:40, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Jill Stein

How the holy hell was my edit to the Jill Stein article vandalism? It was sourced to her Twitter account. I'm not new to Wikipedia. I've been editing for years. I was recently somehow locked out of my account, so I created a new one. I know how Wikipedia works, and I am offended you have accused me of vandalism. Necropolis Hill (talk) 03:06, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

@Necropolis Hill: then you must know very well what is and is not expected of you on Wikipedia. So, if you continue to vandalise – as you did with this unoriginal edit – you may be "locked" out of this account, too. Regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 08:27, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Haha, oops. Blame John Oliver. I have his "make Donald Drumpf" Chrome extension. I guess it changed "Trump" to "Drumpf" when I was editing the article, and the browser thought I was doing it the article. [2] Necropolis Hill (talk) 10:29, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

@Necropolis Hill: Oh my God. That actually makes sense.. I know which extension you're referring to, I just remembered watching the segment about it earlier this year. Sorry for the warning, I shall strike it -- clearly this was unintentional. Kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 10:39, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Apology accepted. I apologize on my part for getting pissy with you. Also, my old account was user:sbrianhicks just so you know how long I've been a member. Necropolis Hill (talk) 10:55, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

No that's alright! I should have figured Oliver would come up with something clever like a Chrome extension to change Trump to Drumpf ;)

Anyway, hope you enjoy your day! Best, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 11:02, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Do you think I was the one that Buster7 mentioned to the Washington Post for changing Trump's name to Drumpf? If so, this is doubly embarrassing. Necropolis Hill (talk) 02:56, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

No, not at all! :) the interviews conducted by the Washington Post had already been completed way before the time of posting (also prior to your Jill Stein accidental edit) so it would have been others; plus, the Oliver segment was quite popular, and so I would think others would have had installed the same extension and incurred the same problem. Regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 03:31, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Mention of you in the news

Hey MelbourneStar, I noticed that you are mentioned in the Washington Post. Congrats on that, from a fellow editor who was also featured there. I guess you, me, Buster7, and Anythingyouwant are now officially famous on Wikipedia. epicgenius - (talk) 03:02, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: I had a read, Chris most definately did a good job! great article overall! Congratulations also, to you and to those also mentioned.

I guess you can say so -- might I add, Epic, you're very well accomplished – keep up the wonderful work.

Regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 03:05, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! And you, too. I see you've done a wonderful job keeping Wikipedia articles safe and sound especially from vandalism. I thought that your quote about "owing it to everyone to present information that is factually accurate, verifiable and neutral as possible" was really insightful. I really think Chris did an awesome job covering this topic. epicgenius - (talk) 03:09, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Yea....and the $5000 is gonna come in handy this Christmas. OOPPSS!....I wasn't supposed to mention that. Nevermind!!! <|:~)... Buster Seven Talk 04:46, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Benjamin Barber

Reliable source? What can be more reliable that video of person in question? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1L1gNUPbTw As an inexperienced Wikipedian would be greartful for your advice on how to include the fact that he is a racist in his article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.48.193.78 (talk) 13:18, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

@190.48.193.78: No, you cannot go around talk pages of Wikipedia, labelling living people "racist" -- refer to WP:LIBEL. Doing so can result in you losing your editing privileges. —MelbourneStar☆^talk 13:22, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Shahar Marcus ‎

Dear Sir, I am working for the artist to correct the information that someone else (with no relation the the artist) has created which was full of significant mistakes. With all do respect, since no one seemed to care to correct the page then, now that it has accurate information- please do not erase. Should you have any further questions, you are welcome to write but do not erase the work. --79.181.18.66 (talk) 12:06, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

MelbourneStar, This is not original research. If you would like you can google the artist's name and you will find all the information. Are you an employee of Wikipedia? If so, why have you not erased the page when it actually contained unsupported information? Why do you not permit to finish the editing the page before removing content??? If you are not an employee of Wikipedia, please seize vandalizing the page immediately. Kindly respond to the questions above and not just quote wikipedia. --79.181.18.66 (talk) 12:27, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

@79.181.18.66: welcome to Wikipedia,

Firstly, nobody owns the Wikipedia article on the subject. It's not up to me to find information on the subject -- if you would like information on the subject, the onus is on you to provide said information -- provided it is verified by reliable sources (which need to be used within the article).

Secondly, your additions appeared to have been plagiarised from copyrighted websites (ie: [3], [4], [5]). You cannot upload copyrighted material on Wikipedia, period.

Please cease doing this, as adding copyrighted material onto Wikipedia can result in you losing your editing privileges. Kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 12:43, 4 November 2016 (UTC)