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Talk pages for redirects from people

Hi, Is it WP BIO policy to create talk pages for all Redirects from people? or all that represent living people? This spring I created some such redirects for living people, and expanded hundreds of existing redirect pages with code including one or more relevant redirect templates or categories (e.g. Year of birth missing (living people)). I created no new redirect talk pages, or next to none, and several now show up on my watchlist. --P64 (talk) 23:24, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

@P64: Hi and thank you for your message. According to Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Assessment#Class parameter, it is written that:
So, I assume that the answer to your question is yes. Best wishes. --Meno25 (talk) 13:53, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. For maintenance of that list, I wonder whether those talk page banners all need the parameter assignment listas=lastname, firstname. Or whether the redirect page needs {DEFAULTSORT:lastname, firstname}, or both. --P64 (talk) 23:17, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
@P64: Hi again. As far as I know, all talk pages tagged with {{WikiProject Biography}} need the listas parameter to be set according to Template:WikiProject Biography#Listas. See also Category:Biography articles without listas parameter. --Meno25 (talk) 04:41, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2015-34

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Many Wikipedias can now use information from any Wikidata item in any Wikipedia article. Before they could only use the Wikidata item that matched the subject of the article. [1] [2] [3]
  • Some auto-saving problems and other issues in the Content Translation tool are now fixed. Please report to the Content Translation feedback page if you still have problems. [4]

Problems

  • Older gadgets that are not using ResourceLoader are not loading anymore. They need to be updated. [5] [6]
  • On August 12 the machine translation servers and the Content Translation tool didn't work. This was fixed on the same day. [7]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 18. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from August 19. It will be on all Wikipedias from August 20 (calendar).
  • You can soon watch when something is added to or removed from a category. [8]

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on August 18 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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16:17, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Disambiguation pages are now excluded from the random page function. [9]

Problems

  • There was a problem with CAPTCHAs in VisualEditor. This has now been fixed. [10]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 25. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from August 26. It will be on all Wikipedias from August 27 (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on August 25 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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13:02, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Bot edits necessary?

Are edits like this one approved?

I don't mind these type of edits if you are doing important edits at the same time, but by itself the edit seems unnecessary.--Commander Keane (talk) 06:08, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

@Commander Keane: This is WikiProject Check Wikipedia error 64. See Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/MenoBot 4 for the approval of the bot's task. Fixing Checkwiki errors is a task done by many bots. Ususally this task is done by @Magioladitis: and @Bgwhite:. I only do it when they are not available. --Meno25 (talk) 06:17, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
But that approval was for AWB, it seems WPCleaner did the "bad" edit. Hence why I asked if it is approved.--Commander Keane (talk) 06:28, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
@Commander Keane: WPCleaner is better than AWB because it reports back to the Checkwiki server that the article processed was fixed, so that, other bots working on the error know that it was fixed, while AWB doesn't do that. --Meno25 (talk) 06:37, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

@Meno25 and Commander Keane: during the past year many AWB users silently switched to WPCleaner due to its clearer edit summaries and user friendly environment (I guess). I worked in the collaboration of the two tools and the synchronization of both tools with CHECKWIKI program. A year ago using WPCleaner in bot mode would not be a good idea because it could also remove a pages from the CHECKWIKI list without actually fixing the "error". Now, WPCleaner is fine on this direction.

AWB is certainly recommended because it does multiple fixes at the same time and we save bot runs.

I think the best approach is what I do: Run AWB in all errors and then WPCleaner to report fixed errors.

PS I do not have strong opinion on whether to allow a bot solely working with WPCleaner. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:45, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Meno25, see that WPCleaner states that the bot mode is experimental. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:52, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

@Magioladitis: This is actually what I do on Arabic Wikipedia. (Running both WPCleaner and AWB on Checkwiki errors as you recommended.) Will do the same on English Wikipedia. However, I don't think that I will do it that much because you and Bgwhite are doing most of the work. Thank you. --Meno25 (talk) 07:11, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Sure. More concerns just for why WPCleaner is not indicate in bot mode unless it is combined with other tools:

  • AWB allows the bot to stop when a message arrives, while WPClenaer does not.
  • WPCleaner removes the page from the CHECKWIKI list after the main error has been fixed and that may prevent fixes of other errors.

There is a try that the AWB and WPCleaner collaborate further. So any inconsistencie between the two should be reported. Thanks for your constant effort to help. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:10, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

@Magioladitis: Thank you for your thoughts on this. Much appreciated. --Meno25 (talk) 09:16, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Anytime. For instance, today we discovered an inconsistency in error #47. We are working on it. Another example: Error #69 was updated in CHECKWIKI. Now we have to update regexes to AWB and WPCleaner. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:18, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2015-36

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • VisualEditor will now automatically create a link when you type in or paste an ISBN, PMID, or RFC. [11][12]
  • The link editor in VisualEditor is now a bit wider. It's now the same width as the automatic citation tool. [13]
  • VisualEditor gadget authors can no longer use the backwards-compatibility module ext.visualEditor.viewPageTarget.init. Use ext.visualEditor.desktopArticleTarget.init instead. [14]
  • Gadget writers can now use mediawiki.ForeignApi to communicate between different Wikimedia wikis. [15]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from September 1. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from September 2. It will be on all Wikipedias from September 3 (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on September 1 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • The Wikidata API will be updated with breaking changes. This will probably happen on September 9. [16]

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21:36, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can now mention up to 50 users in a post and they will get a notification. Previously you could notify up to 20 users. [17]
  • A new version of the Wikidata Toolkit has been released. It now has Wikibase API support. [18]
  • You can now use Wikidata to find all good or featured articles in a Wikipedia version. [19]

Problems

  • There was a problem with Tool Labs due to kernel issues. This has been fixed. [20]
  • The Content Translation tool published some pages with the same reference repeated several times. This has been fixed. [21][22]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from September 8. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from September 9. It will be on all Wikipedias from September 10 (calendar).
  • The maximum character length when you search for something on the Wikimedia wikis is now 300 characters. [23]
  • The notifications list has been split into two lists. As a first step, notifications about messages on your user talk page will be placed in the second list. Feedback is requested at the Echo talk page. [24][25]

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on September 8 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join the Wikitech ambassadors mailing list. The list is for Wikimedians interested in spreading information about Wikimedia technology news. See how to join.

Future changes

  • The Wikimedia mailing lists will be moved to a new server and the software will be upgraded. This will happen on September 9 at 14:00 (UTC). The mailing lists will not be working during the move. It can take up to four hours. [26]
  • Wikidata will soon be able to store measurements, such as a mountain's height or the distance between two places. [27][28]

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17:29, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

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Arabic MOS question

I asked an Arabic spelling question at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Confusion on differing Arabic apostrophe like symbols. Being a native Arabic speak, you probably know more that anybody. Bgwhite (talk) 23:15, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Replied there. Thank you. --Meno25 (talk) 04:49, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-38

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can now use the Wikidata query service. [29]
  • Belarusian-Taraškievica Wikipedia was moved from be-x-old.wikipedia.org to be-tarask.wikipedia.org. This caused some issues, but most of them were resolved. [30]
  • Language preferences might not be changed immediately when you adjust them. Language selection might work slower. Please report any problems. [31][32]

Problems

  • There was a problem when editing International Standard Book Numbers in Visual Editor. This has now been fixed. [33]
  • The Wikimedia mailing lists should have been upgraded on September 9. It didn't work as planned and will now happen later. [34]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from September 15. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from September 16. It will be on all Wikipedias from September 17 (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on September 15 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • ContentTranslation will show more data on the Special:ContentTranslationStats page. For example, it will show translation trends and information about deleted translations. [35]
  • The first version of the translation suggestions feature will be deployed soon. [36]

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16:17, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 16 September 2015

Tech News: 2015-39

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • There is now an experimental Wikimedia maps service. You can give feedback here. [37][38]
  • Last week a few issues with UploadWizard were fixed. Before this was done, UploadWizard would stop you from uploading your files if something went wrong. [39][40][41][42]
  • More Wikipedias can now use information from any Wikidata item in any Wikipedia article. Previously they could only use the Wikidata item that matched the subject of the article. [43]
  • The VisualEditor welcome dialogue has been changed. The intention is to make it more helpful for new users. [44]

Problems

  • Wikimedia Labs' HTTPS certificate expired for most of Tuesday 15 September. To reach Wikimedia Labs and Tool Labs securely you had to ignore your browser's security error message. There was no risk to data security during this time. [45]
  • Last week the notification system was split into two parts. This was temporarily undone because of a bug and performance concerns. It will return to two parts this week. [46][47]
  • UploadWizard couldn't upload files larger than 5 MB when using chunked uploads. This has now been fixed. [48]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from September 22. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from September 23. It will be on all Wikipedias from September 24 (calendar).
  • The page move tool has been switched over to the new standard look for forms. [49]
  • You can now choose whether to extend a link or not when editing one in VisualEditor. This means it is easier to choose how much of what you type before and after the link is part of it. [50]
  • Wikibooks can now use data from Wikidata. [51]

Meetings

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18:29, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

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