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Contributions to the The Doon School page

Thank you for your many contributions to the The Doon School page, which have helped bring the material up to date. In making contributions, please take care regarding the following:

  • Grammar, in particular the consistent use of tense within a paragraph, avoiding redundancy within adjacent sentences, and capitalization of proper nouns.
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  • Balance: when providing details of a particular subject, e.g. a list of people or a list of plays, please take care that this list is truly representative of the subject. Since Doon has been around for 75 years, it is difficult, for example, to list all the famous people who have given speeches at the school. The list of politicians you provided, for example, does not include people like Lord Mountbatten, Jawaharlal Nehru, Indira Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi, and the late King Hussein of Jordan and the late Emperor Haile Selassie I of Ethiopia. (Or even the late ornithologist Salim Ali who was such a frequent speaker that he was made a honorary member of the Doon School Old Boys Society.)
  • Avoiding bias: describing Kashmir House as "the house of gentlemen" is unwarranted, since this formulation is relative new in the school's overall history, and, more importantly, it overtly suggests that other Houses do not produce gentlemen of the same quality.
  • When taking material from the Doon School's own website, please remember that Doon's website is a marketing website, and would naturally have more puffery than can be acceptable in a Wikipedia article. Any organization will highlight even the smallest positive publicity in their website, but for inclusion in a Wikipedia article the material must meet Wikipedia's standards for notability which are considerably higher.

Thanks again for your contributions! Spy99 (talk) 20:37, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Your contributions to the The Doon School page are welcome, but please take care to avoid duplication of information within this page. Information on houses and forms, for example, have been placed in separate sections even though they cover the same material.Spy99 (talk) 02:31, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for providing additional information for this page. It is now much more complete than it was before! (I responded to the question you asked you had asked on my own talk page.) Spy99 (talk) 01:35, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Note on Salim Ali: he was a frequent visitor to Doon over several decades, and continued to be a popular (if increasingly infrequent) visitor through the 1970s. He was probably the first person to be made an honorary member of DSOBS because of his long involvement with the school. While it is true that the birds of Chandbagh attracted him, it should be noted that he had a personal connection with Doon since his brother Aamir Ali was one of the school's oldest entrants.

Note on photographs: it is great that you have contributed some of your own pictures, but the file "File:Nehru in Kashmir House, The Doon School.jpg" is surely not your "own work" as you have indicated. The picture was very likely taken by Mr. Roshal Lal ("Melaram") who took most school pictures during that era. Please confirm that it is in fact, your "own work": scanning the photo, or even getting a copy from Doon, would not qualify unless the original photographer had explicitly assigned the copyright to Doon, and this can be documented. Otherwise, you risk having this picture removed. The same concern applies for the picture of Mr. Foot. Spy99 (talk) 19:38, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Note on grammar: your last correction to The Doon School page changed "A student placed first..." to "A student was placed first..." In this instance, I believe the word "placed" was being using as a verb[1], rather than as a noun[2] in which case the sentence would read "A student took first place..."

A very tiny point, of course, particularly in this age of Twitter and SMS, but I was wondering whether you could confirm which usage is more correct. (It's been decades since someone successfully challenged me on points of grammar, so I am intrigued by your correction. ;-)) Spy99 (talk) 03:50, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

The Doon School page now appears to be a little longer than that of Eton College, which is far older and has much more illustrious history than Doon. This should suggest a natural limit has been reached, if not exceeded already. It is doubtful that you can add more detail at this stage that would not get edited out as being trivial by Wikipedia standards, and you would undoubtedly find that frustrating. Spy99 (talk) 07:15, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

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Thank you very much. I will be editing out the extra information soon. many thanks Merlaysamuel (talk) 07:16, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

In response to your feedback

Thanks. I think you have definitely made that page better.

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Adding pictures

You don't need to be an Admin to add pictures.

First get the pictures. If you didn't take the picture yourself then you need permission from whoever did and that permission must extend to the picture being used anywhere, like the rest of Wikipedia content. (The picture of Doon school on Hindi wikipedia doesn't seem to have this - I don't s[eak Hindi so I'm not sure. It will probably be deleted if you add it to English Wikipedia.)

In the 'Toolbox' menu on the right select 'Upload file' and follow the instructions on the page that links to. Pick a good descriptive file name for the picture.

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Hope that works --filceolaire (talk) 13:06, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks for helping fill out the Doon School page with more contemporary information and photographs Spy99 (talk) 19:40, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

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You came into IRC asking someone to look at the Doon School, and just a few minutes later left and passed it yourself. Sorry, but you need to wait until the actual good article review is...reviewed. I'll leave some comments at the talk page, but I'm don't think this article passes the GA criteria. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 17:08, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

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I agree with you. You can delete the page. Thank you! Merlaysamuel (talk) 06:25, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

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Don't' send me warning notice my dear friend. You are new in Wikipedia while I'm using it for three years. If u just copy and past materials from sources I'll just delete those stuff. Before editing something please read Wikipedia guild-lines. Be careful about ur edits, do not copy/paste.--Kkm010* ۩ ۞ 04:15, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Dear friend Max India Ltd. is the parent of all those subsidiary companies that u mentioned. It would be better if u create a page for Max India. And most importantly Max India is a listed company with an annual turnover of $1 billion.Thanks!--Kkm010* ۩ ۞ 08:56, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Okay good idea, I am also doing that (making a page for the umbrella company Max India). But you have to understand that he holds different posts for each of its (Max India's) off-shoots such as Chariman, Founder, non-executive chairman. Therefore, this should be shown on his page, but you just deleted everything and added founder of max india which is, somewhat, incorrect. I hope you understand. Many thanks! :)

Merlaysamuel (talk) 12:01, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

OK, I'm sorry for my ludicrous remark of 3 years experience. Make sure that you create a Max India page separately, since its the holding company of other Max companies.Thanks!--Kkm010* ۩ ۞ 04:25, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry as well for getting infuriated. And yes I'm making the page. Thanks for your contributions!!

Merlaysamuel (talk) 08:50, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

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Bare URLs are considered bad form when adding references. It would be much better if you completed the reference using the appropriate {{cite web}}, {{cite news}}, {{cite book}}, {{cite journal}} template. It saves a lot of time for people who currently have to clean up after you. --Bob Re-born (talk) 10:52, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

I agree but I have no clue how to do that :( I tried using Reflinks automatic software but didn't succeed... [[User:Merlaysamuel|Merlaysamuel]] (talk) 11:57, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Just look at the template links above and also follow the example of other citations used in the article. It couldn't be easier. --Bob Re-born (talk) 12:11, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Okay, will do...

[[User:Merlaysamuel|Merlaysamuel]] (talk) 12:16, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) First time I looked at cite web I gave up!

Simplest version: <ref>[http://www.mallaigheritage.org.uk/exhibit/galleys.htm "Highland Galleys"]</ref>
Acceptable version: ideally has at least the page name, publisher and retrieval date <ref>[http://www.mallaigheritage.org.uk/exhibit/galleys.htm "Highland Galleys"] Mallaig Heritage Centre. Retrieved 25 February 2012.</ref>
Complex version using {{cite web}} - has more parameters you can use when you get the hang of things.
The first two look like:[1][2] in the body of the article and appear as:
  1. ^ "Highland Galleys"
  2. ^ "Highland Galleys" Mallaig Heritage Centre. Retrieved 25 February 2012.
in the references section. Ben MacDui 12:19, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks a lot!!

[[User:Merlaysamuel|Merlaysamuel]] (talk) 12:20, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Nice work on finding the alumni references. Can you please now spend some time and format them properly? --Bob Re-born (talk) 17:30, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

I'll surely try.....:P [[User:Merlaysamuel|Merlaysamuel]] (talk) 06:29, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Excellent! --Bob Re-born (talk) 08:33, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi Bob, please read the message on your talk page regarding my Reference filling. There is a problem at hand.

[[User:Merlaysamuel|Merlaysamuel]] (talk) 08:38, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

May be Nolelover can help....!!!

[[User:Merlaysamuel|Merlaysamuel]] (talk) 08:53, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Doon School refs problem

I believe the difficulty with your new additions is that the first one for "Anish Kapoor" lacks a set of closing braces (}}). Allens (talk | contribs) 11:54, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Actually, it turned out to be multiple "syntax errors" like that, particularly later on when you were evidently getting tired. I recommend doing them a few at a time, then saving and making sure things are still working right. Allens (talk | contribs) 12:21, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your suggestions..will do so!

[[User:Merlaysamuel|Merlaysamuel]] (talk) 16:01, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Two things

Hey there Merlay, hope you're doing well. Dropping by to give two tips. First, your sig. Dunno what happened, but I think you want it to look like it does now, but without the weird text. Go to your preferences and put this in the signature line:

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Second, I wanted, just in case you ever need quick help and no ones around, to invite you to the Teahouse. It's a new program that has been set up to help newer users, and anyone with a question. Cheers, :) Nolelover Talk·Contribs 17:24, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi, thanks Nole. Actually, I wanted a signature like yours differing only in colour (green & red instead of your red brick and yellow) but when i tried to put the code in preferences, it didn't fit :{ [[User:Merlaysamuel|Merlaysamuel]] (talk) 17:28, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

So like this? Merlaysamuel Talk The code is [[User:Merlaysamuel|'''<span style="color:Green;">Merlaysamuel'''</span>]] [[User talk:Merlaysamuel|'''<span style="color:Red"><sup>Talk</sup>'''</span>]] and I can further modify it if you want. Did you want a contributions link? Nolelover Talk·Contribs 17:39, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

I copied the exact link but didn't produce results.... [[User:Merlaysamuel|'''<span style="color:Green;">Merlaysamuel'''</span>]] [[User talk:Merlaysamuel|'''<span style="color:Red"><sup>Talk</sup>'''</span>]] (talk) 18:05, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Did you make sure you completely erased the old content before copying the new code? Nolelover Talk·Contribs 18:13, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I completely erased it. And that is exactly how I want it...

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Doon School PR

I will be glad to take a look at it - sorry for the delay in replying. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 04:27, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar well-deserved

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Thanks

thank you for accepting my article :) cj miller DoscoinDoon (talk) 14:27, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. Enjoy your editing here. [[User:Merlaysamuel|Merlaysamuel]] (talk) 14:51, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

You are ignoring two editors.

  • Hi Merlay,it's not like child,but that's the way you think?.Your edit here is not connecting the sentences?,and had a desire is a standard English.You are ignoring two editors in this regard.Cheers.Justice007 (talk) 20:01, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Justice I am sorry but I didn't realise that such minute changes warrant a discussion on the article talk page. If that were the case we would never get anywhere. And when I read the whole lead in one go, the phrase jutted out like a sore. The phrase did seem very broken "He had a desire to do.... ". It was not fitting in the context. It's like he had a desire to eat ice-cream, or visit an amusement park. Of course, mine is not the final word on it and whenever I'm editing something I am fully aware that you guys will see it and if you don't agree we can always discuss it. Please don't make it sound like that I deliberately ignored you or something....and sorry if you thought i did :)

[[User:Merlaysamuel|Merlaysamuel]] (talk) 10:48, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

  • No problem,we learn from each other nobody is perfect.Yes I missed to look at.Thanks.Justice007 (talk) 09:54, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
:-)

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Please check the user's credentials before throwing up some accusations. It was an expression of normal opinion and any change in ratings is not vandalism. It is just another opinion which you can in turn take a different view on. Learn to collaborate and deal with other editors in a calm manner and give credit where due. Cheers. --VasuVR (talk, contribs) 09:28, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. It was certainly no 'normal opinion' as you put it. The ratings were given by an Administrator on SchoolWikipedia Project and when you, without even discussing with anyone, changed it to 'low' as if you had a personal vendetta with the page - is considered vandalism. If users on Wikipedia start changing everything which suits their own view, without discussing with anyone, it is a matter of grave concern. And please read my message on your talk page again. I don't think I was rude and if you think i was, i apologise. I am sure you will learn to behave responsibly in the future. Cheers!

Merlaysamuel (talk) 09:34, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Doon School

You are very welcome - glad to know my comments were useful. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 20:46, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

The thing you need to understand is that discussions at Templates For Deletion can be much slower than at Articles For Deletion. However, I asked around and located an uninvolved administrator who was willing to close the debate, since it was such an obvious 'keep'. (I admit to being startled that there was enough content to feature on Wikiquote and Wikisource!) DS (talk) 22:15, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

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Greetings, I came across your edits at Doon School due to the fact that it popped up in the top-level cat Category:India. Note that an absolute minimum of over-arching articles should appear directly in a country cat such as for India, so something as specific as an individual school should be filed deeper in. The same for Category:Education.

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Doon School page

It looks very good now; you (and others) seem to have done an excellent job with the citations. Spy99 (talk) 18:29, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks very much! Merlaysamuel :  Chat  18:31, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

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Hey there Merlay, this message popped up on my watchlist and I just want to ask you to please take this seriously and learn about copyright. I know it's not directly related, but I've seen a few instances of this close paraphrasing in The Doon School and a copyright problem will quick-fail any GAN. Nolelover Talk·Contribs 23:02, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks....! Merlaysamuel :  Chat  17:31, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Why is Royalty the first category listed? Of all the categories, it requires the least achievement beyond being born to the right parents. All the other categories require some effort on the part of the people listed. Spy99 (talk) 03:48, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

I didn't really place them based on the effort required for achievement, though I agree it's more of luck than hard-work. I merely put it up based on Old Harrovians model. Also, when readers see the page, they won't be concerned which section requires the most hard-work. Nor does it imply that Royalty being on top, is the most-illustrious alumni of Doon. It really doesn't matter. But if you wish, you can relegate it! Merlaysamuel :  Chat  11:11, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

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Your recent spate (which you reverted) on the 'List of Doon School alumni featured list nomination' was more to do with your personal convictions, whatever they are I'm not averse to them nor am I challenging them (you're entitled to your opinion). But the fault is that you didn't distance yourself while reviewing it. And, casually, trashed the list (and thereby the hours I put in to improve it) by succumbing to your personal opinions of the school. I believe mixing your personal convictions with Wikipedia editing/reviewing is dangerously counter-productive to its well-established neutral standpoint. Merlaysamuel : Chat 17:12, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

wrt above i completely agree with u. i will quote my own experience:

Greetings. wrt my last edit in 'Kurmi' i just clarified vague unrefrenced preexisting varna issue in lede with balanced and well ref content did not add anything except accurate ref. in etymology section tortoise totem is not my spec. only full sentance from same ref. previous editor for the reasons best known to him preferred to quote only half sentence from given ref and also surprisingly avoided final conclusive view of ref writer on etymology of kurmi. i merely completed referred sentence. did not add a word of my own. in info box i added a subcaste for which written references are available. thanks. my only concern is immediate deletion of my well referenced content by other editor. i feel sad.Jaychandra (talk) 08:20, 31 March 2012 (UTC) to Fowler&Fowler. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaychandra (talkcontribs)

I understand your concern.... Merlaysamuel :  Chat  09:23, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

The Doon List

I do understand that you've spent a lot of time working on the Doon list, but you have to allow for the possibility that you might have been too close to the list and that in your effort to give it heft you may have enhanced the notability both of the list and of those listed. The stories in Indian dailes, I'm afraid, are not always reliable. The dailies tend to mimic each other; they tend to be sloppy with language; and they tend not to follow up. They speculate wildly one day, and the next day the story dies, never to be seen again. Their feature articles are often reliable though; some respected weekly magazines, such as the Outlook, are usually reliable as well.

You also have to believe that I have no ax to grind in this. Although I had heard of Doon School, it had never loomed large in my thoughts, and I'm not biased against either the school or its alums. In fact, had you not posted on WT:INDIA, I would likely have never seen the list page, nor the Doon school page. Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 15:29, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Headmasters of the Doon School

Thank you for your note, Merlaysamuel. To be frank, I disapprove of the quite recent use of a capital 'T' for "the" in the middle of a sentence when a name usually has "the" in front of it, and that is why I did not begin the category in that form. However, the capital 'T' is becoming very common, and as you prefer to include it I can live with it. Moonraker (talk) 17:57, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Since you haven't edited after 22 April, and given the concerns at the FLC, I'll move to archive the nomination in due course if you don't tell me why I shouldn't. All the best. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:28, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

No probs, thanks for letting me know. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:57, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you for your efforts in support of this page. I have never before known a DYK nomination to dissolve into such fireworks! However, the affair is trivial, as the article has made good progress. As you will see, the "penelopes" (as Wetman calls them) are now attacking the photographs, so I am hoping one of the CBStian bloggers will weigh in with some better ones. Moonraker (talk) 03:08, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

You're most welcome. Yes, the discussion has been unnecessarily stretched too long. Hopefully, it will be passed now. Good luck! Merlaysamuel :  Speechify  06:00, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

The photographs were all uploaded by Ambreen Mubasher, who stated plainly for each one "Author= Ambreen Mubasher". Two editors have (in effect) accused her of stealing the photographs and lying in her uploads, based on (a) the size of the files, (b) the lack of metadata, (c) the fact that the uploads came from South Asia, and (d) the claim that Ambreen is discredited by some deleted edits, but I can't find any policy which supports this stance on any of those points. Please see Talk:Ghulam Jilani Khan for the latest on this. Moonraker (talk) 14:04, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

That accusation is unfortunately preposterous! I don't understand why the experienced editors would do such a thing... --Merlaysamuel :  Speechify  18:00, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

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Doon School failed verifications

Hello. I am very concerned at the high proposrtion of references in the article that have nothing whatsoever to do with the claims they are cited to. I am thinking of abandoning the copy edit and tagging the article for a citation check. For example, please could you explain this edit, in which you added three sources that fail to bear out the claims they are cited to? --Stfg (talk) 10:53, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

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Doon talk

Mr. Samuel, I request you to look at the links I've recently provided on the talk page. I have asked Nole and Fowler to do the same. Thanks --DoscoinDoon DoscoinDoon 11:08, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

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Authority control

Thanks for the note; if you'd explained in the edit summary or on the talk page why you were removing it, I wouldn't have objected. Since http://viaf.org/viaf/150165455 is definitely about this school, it should remain. These templates are a method of making our articles a database of information that can be synchronised with other databases of information: the goal is to build the Semantic Web. Basically, it's meant to enable computers to recognise that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doon_School and http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n85210925.html discuss the same topic, and this will be true even if we or the Library of Congress change a page's URL. As such, it's a helpful thing to use, so please don't remove it unless you discover some sort of error in the number. Nyttend (talk) 04:57, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation.--Merlaysamuel :  Speechify  13:17, 13 December 2012 (UTC)