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Happy editing! CNMall41 (talk) 21:16, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Schrödinger's jellyfish ✉ 06:24, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please study the wayback machine. it only holds the deleted version pages 103.182.15.135 (talk) 17:22, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I'm not involved in the content dispute on the page. This just serves as a notice that you should be aware of heightened behavioral expectations when editing about India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan. I would recommend talking to the other editor in question about the disputed content (while logged in) about this, either at Talk:Asim Munir or at User talk:DaDefeender. Schrödinger's jellyfish ✉ 01:34, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RS[edit]

It seems like you're adding original research and unreliable sources as citations in BLPs. Please avoid this and ensure you're adhering to WP:RS guidelines. —Saqib (talk | contribs) 10:55, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you continue to violate policy by adding WP:OR into BLPs, as you recently did on several BLPs, I'll have to report you. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 12:30, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings, please be specific and if possible pinpoint exact occurrences, my whole aim here has been to defuse false facts associated with these personalities and try to bring verifiable facts backed by credible references and sources, sorry if there’s a misunderstanding, cheers. Metamentalist (talk) 16:49, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OR @ Alam Lohar (Diff ~1230052636), Arif Lohar (Diff ~1230052427), Atif Aslam (Diff ~1229390687), Ramiz Raja (Diff ~1228855965), Faysal Quraishi (Diff ~1230069505), DoB @ Ahmad Ali Butt (Diff ~1229966106), and many more. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 17:06, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK so case by case :

Alam Lohar -> I took out the "his children live in the UK", not written in the 2 sources, while I added that he has 8 boys (which is in the Asia Society source I quoted, Asia Society being a credible source of course)

Arif Lohar -> Just added info (one of 8 siblings + acting career subsec), all sourced by the Asia Society profile as well

Atif Aslam -> reorganized a bit (songs title in Italics, etc), only addition being 3 brothers, source being Gulf News (credible)

Ramiz Raja -> there too just reorganization, new info is only about his family roots that were covered in another source (that I also archived)

Faysal Qureshi -> added in Early life with credible source (Bol News)

Ahmed Ali Butt -> Mainly reorganization, new addition (such as drama "Gentleman") is sourced

As I said my own aim is to dismiss unsourced info, in fact it was one of the main reasons I created this account (before I only used to lurk without an actual account.)

Thanks for your understanding. Metamentalist (talk) 18:59, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So are you saying that you haven't included any WP:OR and you're denying my claims? Also, please note that Bol is not a RS therefore it should be avoided. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:03, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I want to convey that all these facts have been backed by credible sources (I can concede for Bol but here too it'd still be debatable I believe), as I affirmed one of the very reasons for my presence is here was to demystify the Pakistani celebrities' pages (I remember actor Danish Taimoor is the one that impulsed me, as it was badly written and with too many unreferenced material presented as facts). I self identify as a good faith actor in all of this process, not someone intending to cause qualitative damage. Metamentalist (talk) 19:09, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Debatable ? Bol News was just recently discussed at WP:RSN and it was deemed an unreliable source so please respect that consensus. Also you mentioned working on a Danish' BLP, but I don't see your contributions there. Were you editing it under a different account? — Saqib (talk I contribs) 19:17, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My bad, I genuinely wasn't aware, I can anyway replace it as this fact has been corroborated by many other sources (more credible than Bol certainly), I'll prob do it, as for the Danish Taimoor edit, look up for the following :

"20:59, 6 January 2024‎ Metamentalist talk contribs‎ 13,459 bytes +52‎ "Cleaned" the page a bit (took off bad sourced or unsourced partisan info and rearranged it overall)" Metamentalist (talk) 19:28, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anyways, I strongly suggest avoiding citing unreliable sources (besides Bol) in articles, especially when it comes to BLPs. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 20:30, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try to keep this in mind and focus on sources such as Dawn News, cheers. Metamentalist (talk) 06:49, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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