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Wikidata weekly summary #328

Taxon names in Wikidata

I'm picking up your suggestion at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Discussion (Switch to using Wikidata for interwiki links to Wikimedia Commons) that I should continue the discussion on your talk page.

The underlying issues seem to be understood, and have been extensively discussed over at Wikidata (sometimes acrimoniously but after some warnings and bans, now more reasonably).

  • Although taxon (Q16521) is said to be an instance of "taxon", it's well understood that it isn't – it's an instance of "taxon name". See e.g. the long discussion at wikidata:Property talk:P1420 or the recent thread at wikidata:MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Merge.js#Error merging Q10475339 with Q1786657. Maybe it's time to try again to get the description changed to reflect reality.
  • Ideally, there would be some way of modelling both "taxon" and "taxon name". If this could be done, then the problems I mentioned with Platanus ×acerifolia (Q24853030) and Platanus × hispanica (Q161374) appear soluble: they are different taxon names, with different entries in taxonomic databases, different taxon authors, different histories, etc., but according to current reliable sources, are taxonomic synonyms, i.e. alternative names for the same taxon. So Platanus ×acerifolia (Q24853030) and Platanus × hispanica (Q161374) would automatically be linked via their links to the same taxon entity.
  • However, as the discussion at wikidata:Property talk:P1420 showed, and as more recent discussions also demonstrate, no-one knows how to correctly model in Wikidata the relationship between "taxon" and "taxon name" entities. So the relationship is shown by P1420, which is symmetrical, although often not present on both entities.
  • P1420 can, and should, be used to combine together links to wikis (languages, species, commons, etc.). (However, this can run into the non-1:1 problem noted below.)
  • A difficult problem is when a taxon is split by some sources/wikis but not others. Taxonomy is subjective; different reliable taxonomic sources can differ as to how to classify organisms. Thus the taxon with the name Vachellia (Q956173) has been split off from the original circumscription of the taxon with the name Acacia (Q81666). The taxon name Acacia (Q81666) refers to two different taxa: the modern one is smaller, excluding Vachiellia and other genera; the older one is larger, including Vachiella and other genera. If you look at the list of links to other wikis at Acacia (Q81666) and Vachellia (Q956173), you can see that many wikis haven't implemented the split (yet). Those that use the older, larger circumscription of Acacia (Q81666) need to link to several articles/Commons categories/etc. where the newer, smaller circumscriptions are used. But this is impossible, since a rigid 1:1 relationship is built into Wikidata.

Peter coxhead (talk) 08:43, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

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Solar eclipse of May 20, 2012 (Request) 2018-08-30
Myliobatis goodei (Request) 2018-05-22
Tasmanian whitebait (Request) 2018-05-15
Rubidium azide (Request) 2018-04-17

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Wikidata weekly summary #329

Nomination for deletion of Module:Linguistic

Module:Linguistic has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the module's entry on the Templates for discussion page. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 23:46, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #330

A tag has been placed on Module:Formatnum, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, such as at Articles for deletion. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here.

You said in your re-creation edit summary that it was deleted as unused. That isn't true. It was deleted as providing no useful functionality that isn't provided by the formatnum parser function or Template:Sigfig (I would still have nominated it for deletion even if it were used). It still shares that problem, therefore the reason for deletion was not addressed, and the module meets G4. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 00:10, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
I've declined the CSD. The module is required by Module:Complex date. Neither the formatnum parser function nor Template:Sigfig (which merely implements formatnum) provides the Lua functionality of Module:Formatnum. The module meets no deletion criterion whatsoever. --RexxS (talk) 00:30, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
The start of the deletion nomination was "Only used on one user sandbox." To be fair, I didn't read much further since it was part of a set of modules I was restoring as they had been deleted as unused, but were now needed. No-one else participated in the debate, and the closure here was just 'delete' without specifying the reasons why. So I agree with RexxS that this isn't suitable for speedy deletion. Up to you if you want to re-nominate it for regular deletion, but it would be better to think about how to merge the functionality into Module:Complex date instead (both here and across the other 19 projects that this module exists at according to Module:Formatnum (Q15709679)). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 09:27, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
And it turns out that none of the code in the module was ever actually used, as my later edit to load the module lazily demonstrates. Nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 September 21#Module:Formatnum. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 19:28, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
Complete nonsense. This is the result of disabling Module:Formatnum:
  • {{#invoke:WikidataIB |getValue |qid=Q51673 |P569 |fwd=ALL |osd=no |lang=bn}} → খ্রিস্টপূর্ব ১৪ জানুয়ারি ৮৩, খ্রিস্টপূর্ব ৮৩ Edit this on Wikidata
I think it's time to ask at WP:AN for a topic ban from AfD for Pppery. I'm sick of wasting my time on this sort of incompetent nomination. --RexxS (talk) 20:35, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #331

Facto Post – Issue 16 – 30 September 2018

Facto Post – Issue 16 – 30 September 2018

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The science publishing landscape

In an ideal world ... no, bear with your editor for just a minute ... there would be a format for scientific publishing online that was as much a standard as SI units are for the content. Likewise cataloguing publications would not be onerous, because part of the process would be to generate uniform metadata. Without claiming it could be the mythical free lunch, it might be reasonably be argued that sandwiches can be packaged much alike and have barcodes, whatever the fillings.

The best on offer, to stretch the metaphor, is the meal kit option, in the form of XML. Where scientific papers are delivered as XML downloads, you get all the ingredients ready to cook. But have to prepare the actual meal of slow food yourself. See Scholarly HTML for a recent pass at heading off XML with HTML, in other words in the native language of the Web.

The argument from real life is a traditional mixture of frictional forces, vested interests, and the classic irony of the principle of unripe time. On the other hand, discoverability actually diminishes with the prolific progress of science publishing. No, it really doesn't scale. Wikimedia as movement can do something in such cases. We know from open access, we grok the Web, we have our own horse in the HTML race, we have Wikidata and WikiJournal, and we have the chops to act.

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Results from global Wikimedia survey 2018 are published

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Administrators' newsletter – October 2018

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  • Partial blocks should be available for testing in October on the Test Wikipedia and the Beta-Cluster. This new feature allows admins to block users from editing specific pages and in the near-future, namespaces and uploading files. You can expect more updates and an invitation to help with testing once it is available.
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Peer review newsletter #1

Introduction

Hello to all! I do not intend to write a regular peer review newsletter but there does occasionally come a time when those interested in contributing to peer review should be contacted, and now is one. I've mailed this out to everyone on the peer review volunteers list, and some editors that have contributed to past discussions. Apologies if I've left you off or contacted you and you didn't want it. Next time there is a newsletter / mass message it will be opt in (here), I'll talk about this below - but first:

  • THANK YOU! I want to thank you for your contributions and for volunteering on the list to help out at peer review. Thank you!
  • Peer review is useful! It's good to have an active peer review process. This is often the way that we help new or developing editors understand our ways, and improve the quality of their editing - so it fills an important and necessary gap between the teahouse (kindly introduction to our Wikiways) and GA and FA reviews (specific standards uphelp according to a set of quality criteria). And we should try and improve this process where possible (automate, simplify) so it can be used and maintained easily.

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It can get quite lonely tinkering with peer review...
With a bit of effort we can renovate the place to look like this!

Update #1: the peer review volunteers list is changing

The list is here in case you've forgotten: WP:PRV. Kadane has kindly offered to create a bot that will ping editors on the volunteers list with unanswered reviews in their chosen subject areas every so often. You can choose the time interval by changing the "contact" parameter. Options are "never", "monthly", "quarterly", "halfyearly", and "annually". For example:

  • {{PRV|JohnSmith|History of engineering|contact=monthly}} - if placed in the "History" section, JohnSmith will receive an automatic update every month about unanswered peer reviews relating to history.
  • {{PRV|JaneSmith|Mesopotamian geography, Norwegian fjords|contact=annually}} - if placed in the "Geography" section, JaneSmith will receive an automatic update every yearly about unanswered peer reviews in the geography area.

We can at this stage only use the broad peer review section titles to guide what reviews you'd like, but that's better than nothing! You can also set an interest in multiple separate subject areas that will be updated at different times.

Update #2: a (lean) WikiProject Peer review

I don't think we need a WikiProject with a giant bureaucracy nor all sorts of whiz-bang features. However over the last few years I've found there are times when it would have been useful to have a list of editors that would like to contribute to discussions about the peer review process (e.g. instructions, layout, automation, simplification etc.). Also, it can get kind of lonely on the talk page as I am (correct me if I'm wrong) the only regular contributor, with most editors moving on after 6 - 12 months.

So, I've decided to create "WikiProject Peer review". If you'd like to contribute to the WikiProject, or make yourself available for future newsletters or contact, please add yourself to the list of members.

Update #3: advertising

We plan to do some advertising of peer review, to let editors know about it and how to volunteer to help, at a couple of different venues (Signpost, Village pump, Teahouse etc.) - but have been waiting until we get this bot + WikiProject set up so we have a way to help interested editors make more enduring contributions. So consider yourself forewarned!

And... that's it!

I wish you all well on your Wikivoyages, Tom (LT) (talk) 00:31, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

This Month in Education: September 2018

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This Month in GLAM: September 2018





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  • Albania report: Collections of Museums in Albania
  • Armenia report: GLAM+Wikidata
  • Australia report: WikiTour AU
  • Brazil report: Developing tGLAM: a landing-page generator for GLAM initiatives
  • France report: European Heritage Days; Linked data for archaeology; Paris: Edit-a-thon at Mobilier National
  • Germany report: History of Women and Democracy, Wikipedia-Culture-Ambassadors and two GLAM-on-Tour-stations in just four weeks
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  • Malaysia report: Wikipedia for Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museum
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  • Netherlands report: >20,000 press photographs 1940-1990 uploaded, GLAM Wiki Meeting, Aerial Photographs, GLAM-Wiki Manual & Wikipedia Course for Historical Societies
  • Norway report: Women in Red; Researhers Days 2018; The 2019 edition of #wikinobel
  • Poland report: Archival photographs and literary knowledge enrich Polish Wikipedia
  • Serbia report: Impact of GLAM seminars: Decentralization of GLAM activities
  • Sweden report: Wikidata P3595 Biografiskt lexikon för Finland; Student Project at the Nordic Museum; Learning about sources on Swedish Wikipedia
  • UK report: Botanical illustrations and Wiki Loves Monuments in Scotland
  • USA report: Back to school
  • Wikipedia Library report: Books & Bytes–Issue 30, August–September 2018
  • Wikidata report: Wikidata Tour Down Under
  • Calendar: October's GLAM events
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