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List of Cochrane Reviews already used in Wikipedia

Hi Mike, is it a big job to run an update of this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mike_Peel/Cochrane_used  ? I would like to use it to try and clean up my list of suggested reviews. Thanks! JenOttawa (talk) 14:28, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

@JenOttawa: I've re-run it today. However, the list is too long to post on wiki now, so I've put it at http://www.mikepeel.net/temp/cochrane_uses_nov18.txt instead. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 10:07, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
This is super helpful Mike. Thanks! I am going to send it to the Cochrane IT folks and see if they can help get a new list of all the Reviews not yet in Wikipedia... or... better yet... remove the reviews that are already in Wikipedia from this list and add the newly published reviews. JenOttawa (talk) 14:04, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

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Cochrane Update bot en français

Hi Mike, I hope that you are well and are having a nice fall. The Cochrane bot is running very smoothly. I would like to intorduce you to a new Wikipedian who works with Cochrane France, Sylvian @Sylvain.juchet:. He is interested in learning more about your bot and possibly designing one for his project in French Wikipedia (similar to the work I am doing in english). Sylvian may have a few questions for you, if you don’t mind. Thanks again, Jenny JenOttawa (talk) 14:09, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

@JenOttawa and Sylvain.juchet: Sure, I'd be happy to help. It's probably quite easy to modify the code to do the same thing on frwp - just change the names of the parameters and templates it uses. I'd be happy to make those changes and set pi bot running it regularly if that would be useful (and pointers to examples can be given). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 11:12, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick reply Mike and offer to help. I will forward this message on to @Sylvain.juchet:. JenOttawa (talk) 00:24, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi Mike, Sylvain is definitely interested in setting this up. Do you want me to create a new project page for the french bot? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Cochrane_update Thanks again!JenOttawa (talk) 14:17, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
@JenOttawa and Sylvain.juchet: I've started modifying the code, which is at [1]. It's currently not editing the articles to add the update inline template (since that would probably need bot approval), but it is outputting the list, currently to fr:Utilisateur:Mike Peel/Brouillon. See how that looks? To take this further, I'd need to see examples of how Cochrane references are coded on frwp (so that the regexes can be improved to make sure we find all the articles), and my french probably needs some copyediting. ;-) Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 15:44, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Wow, that is great. I emailed Sylvain to get his feedback. Thanks Mike. JenOttawa (talk) 16:57, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
@Mike Peel:Thank you Mike for starting this so quickly ! I've started to check how cochrane is sourced on frwp, and when I'm doing a search on wikipedia with cochrane specific DOI [2] or general search [3] I am finding a big gap (200 vs 800 results). Even if all results from the general search term will not be relevant, I suspect that a lot of cochrane sources included in frwp does not refere to PMID or DOI... What do you think ?. --Sylvain.juchet (talk) 10:52, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
@Sylvain.juchet: The code currently looks for pages that mention 'Cochrane' in the 'périodique' or 'titre' parameter of a reference. It then looks for the PMIDs in those pages and uses those to see if updates are available. I've put a list of the ones it currently finds/checks at fr:Utilisateur:Mike Peel/Cochrane used. The Cochrane DOI isn't currently used, but the PMID is essential for the bot to work. If you can identify patterns that people have used for the Cochrane references on frwp then I can try to modify the bot to also find those. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 15:26, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi @Sylvain.juchet: and Mike, I just wanted to follow up on this and see if there is anything that I can do to help. JenOttawa (talk) 14:26, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi@JenOttawa and Mike Peel: I think that for frwp the most reliable source to find cochrane references is the review ID (CD + 6 numbers). I tried to follow that. We will probably start here by taking the work you have already done on enwp : listing all enwp articles that have recent (2017-2018) cochrane references already translated in french, find the corresponding frwp article, to make a list kind like this [4] (I may add the link to the enwp in the list also). Then later on, when we will be more confident on our wiki editing, we can start to add new references on new articles... What do you think ? --Sylvain.juchet (talk) 13:42, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi @Mike Peel and Sylvain.juchet:, since the bot in english Wikipedia seems to be working quite well with few errors, it would be make sense to also go ahead and get permission to run the same bot in french. I find that people add citations using different methods. PMID/DOI are ideal, but some are missed this way. You probably want two tools Sylvain, similar to in english Wikipedia. A tool to keep the content that is already in french WP up to date, and a tool to keep track of where your citations are and where the holes are (or what reviews that have been translated are not yet in Wikipedia). Not sure if this helps... JenOttawa (talk) 14:03, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
@JenOttawa and Sylvain.juchet: Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help - I'm happy to make modifications to the bot code as needed so that it works on frwp. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:29, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi Mike, if you do have the time can we go ahead and make a bot that works the same way in english Wikipedia on the french side? I know that you do a lot of volunteer work, so not pressure here at all! Once we get a basic bot (that works in a similar fashion to en), we can make it more precise/incorporate french translated reviews. I think that you mentioned that we need to go through the same application process as for the english bot? Can I help at all if you are interested in doing this. Thanks!JenOttawa (talk) 18:08, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
@JenOttawa and Sylvain.juchet: What I've done already is basically copy-paste the enwp bot and started to make the frwp-specific changes. It's basically ready to go. The main issue is language-based - how's your French? Mine's rather basic! The frwp bot request page is at fr:Wikipédia:Bot/Statut - basically a translation of Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Pi bot 3 would need to be posted there before I can turn on the part of the code that adds fr:Modèle:Passage à actualiser to the articles. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:07, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
I can translate it Mike. Do you mind highlighting what needs to be shared? Thanks again!JenOttawa (talk) 16:08, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
Is this what you are thinking? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JenOttawa/translating_french_pi_bot_request @Sylvain.juchet: JenOttawa (talk) 16:14, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
@JenOttawa: Yup, that's about it. Perhaps remove the line on "Links to relevant discussions" (those discussions probably aren't relevant here), and if there's a cochrane update page on frwp already then link to that rather than the enwp one. The new source code link is [5] Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 16:36, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
OK nearly done (I think)User:JenOttawa/translating french pi bot request#French headings. I will have it proof ready by tonight. Hope you have a very Happy Thanksgiving!!!! JenOttawa (talk) 01:57, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
That looks good, thanks! I've made some tweaks for frwp-specific things (primarily template names). Happy thanksgiving! Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 10:06, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for taking a look. I just had a native french speaker take a quick look and he says it looks fine for now. I am not completely bilingual but I live with four franco-ontarians so I consider myself in a permanent french immersion program. Sylvain may have some tweaks but we can probably make these after it is posted. Do you want me to go ahead and post on the bot request page, or do you want to do it (under your username)? Hope you had a nice holiday yesterday. We had our Thanksgiving in October but Canadians are wild for Black Friday. I am going for a walk in the woods to celebrate in my own way!!! Have a nice long weekend and thanks again! JenOttawa (talk) 13:26, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
That's great, thanks! I've posted it on frwp now, at fr:Wikipédia:Bot/Statut#Pi_bot, let's see how the bot request goes. Thanksgiving isn't a thing here in Brazil, but there was the Proclamation of the Republic (Brazil) holiday last week and there's also Independence Day (Brazil) in September. Black Friday is also big here though! Enjoy the walk in the woods! Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:45, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
Great, I sent Sylvain an email to get him up to speed. Have a nice weekend! JenOttawa (talk) 15:14, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

List of Reviews currently used on Wikipedia

Hi Mike, is the code that you used to generate the Nov 18 list the first part of the code you use for the Cochrane bot? Thanks! JenOttawa (talk) 13:40, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

@JenOttawa: Almost, it's actually this code. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:45, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Great, thanks. This is super helpful! JenOttawa (talk) 14:14, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

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