User talk:Moe Epsilon/Archive 32
A message for Leochews.....[edit]First of all, UK DID NOT receive the "death penalty" in 1952, and this was not because of the term, but instead because of the restrictions that the NCAA had at that time. Fact is, the NCAA did not actually hand down any punishment against Kentucky, but instead asked the member schools to do it for them. Once again, the NCAA ASKED, and did not mandate, anything. Second, I find it curious, being that you're so unbiased and all, that you would only create a registered account to edit pages about Kentucky Basketball. You know, it's funny, right after this page (Adolph Rupp) became semi-protected, you magically decided to register an account. Previous to that, you were perfectly content to hide behind multiple IP addresses, so long as you were able to get away with it. Tell me, how obsessed are you with Kentucky Basketball? And finally, all of your agenda-based points have now been refuted on this page, and what is left is an honest reflection of the truth. Tell you what, if you are truly interested in finding the actual truth behind the 1951 scandal, visit www.bigbighistory.net. There, you will find completely factual information, along with numerous articles and references on this very subject. I doubt you will bother to do this, however, as your intention here is NOT to post (or learn) the truth, but instead, to only post your agenda.Jbfwildcat (talk) 22:51, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Funny, Leochews.....you want to call me out, but what I post is facts, and what you post is agenda-driven. Not to mention, you just first registered yesterday. Cool, now you stalk me like you stalk Kentucky Basketball topics. Should I feel flattered? And yet, you ignore all the articles, research, sources, and documentation on that site. Yeah, just like I figured. Funny, the gentleman (Jon Scott) that started that webpage is respected all over the country for his research and unbiased historical text. You might actually READ some of the articles, links, and sources that he lists on this subject, but then again, you're not interested in accuracy, but only in smear campaigns.Jbfwildcat (talk) 23:26, 8 January 2012 (UTC) I don't think posting a historical event on Adolph Rupp's wikipedia page about how UK basketball cheated could hardly be considered a smear campaign. Its a fact. The reason I looked at your page was to leave a message to you to discuss the entry. Once I saw your history of pro UK editing though, I figured I would be wasting my time. I was right. You can't deny the well documented long history of cheating at UK. I'm not going to argue about this with you because you seem to be very close minded about these things. I just want the pages on wikipedia to be as objective and accurate as possible. Leochews (talk) 23:49, 8 January 2012 (UTC) There is NO "long" history of "cheating" at UK. That's a myth. Tell me, where was Kentucky's documented "cheating" in the 1920's, 1930's, 1940's, 1960's, 1970's, 1990's, or 2000's, or since? Kentucky's "long history" of cheating consisted of two major scandals, one in the early 1950's, and one in the late 1980's. To suggest otherwise just shows your agenda. If you can provide other evidence as to other "cheating" by UK, then, by all means, contact the NCAA. By the way, you might also want to check out the history of UCLA, Kansas, Tennessee, Cincinnati, Ohio Sate, Michigan, Indiana, North Carolina, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, UCONN, and Louisville, since you're on such a crusade against "cheaters" in college basketball. Tell me, do you edit their pages as well?Jbfwildcat (talk) 00:12, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
A question for you, Moe Epsilon...[edit]If there any way you can check the IP address of Leochews, and see if it matches that of any of the unregistered users who vandalized Adolph Rupp's page 2 or 3 days ago? Seriously, this guy only registered to edit two articles, both based on Kentucky Basketball. You don't need to be Sherlock Holmes to figure this out.Jbfwildcat (talk) 23:39, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Hey, since the overall tone was very much the same, don't you think this person could have be posting edits from two different computers? For the record, I'll be willing to bet this was the case, and further, I'll also bet that all of the edits from both came from the state of Indiana. Am I wrong?Jbfwildcat (talk) 01:39, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Really? Is this what this conversation has come to? I'm not going to continue to this conversation because it has turned into juvenile personal attacks that are unfounded. I just wanted to see the Rupp page be written in a non biased manner. I think I have been very fair and civil in our discussion and with my edits. Thanks for your help Moe, I look forward to seeing the elimination of www.bigbluehistory.com as a citation on the page. Take care. Leochews (talk) 02:43, 9 January 2012 (UTC) Well, well, I see the agenda-editor has now taken his ball and gone home. This is just as well, as his ship here was sunk anyway. You see, he could no longer refute any of the facts that have been added to this article, and all he had left was to try to discredit the most thorough and reliable internet source on this subject.Jbfwildcat (talk) 03:18, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Well, I see you caved. So, let me get this straight. Even though the NCAA had no enforcement power to cancel Kentucky's season in 1952-53, and in fact had to ASK member schools to not schedule Kentucky, you feel the need to allude to this as the first "death penalty"? Further, the rule was not even in effect until 33 years later, and the man you quoted used this term loosely some 20+ years after the fact. That's inaccurate encyclopedic content, my friend, as it alludes to something that did not even exist at the time, nor did the NCAA even have the power to enforce it at the time. You should revert this edit. period. Jbfwildcat (talk) 05:37, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
The first director "alluded" to this many years after the fact, but no matter what, the FACTS are that this rule didn't exist, and the punishment (or lack thereof) did not fit the punishment of the "death penalty" anyway. In short, you had no reason to include this little tidbit, as it was not rooted in FACT. My question is, WHY is it OK for you to do this, and not OK for me to have made some my FACTUAL changes to this article? Some of my sources were not good enough to be considered legit, and yet you can post someone's opinion, an opinion which has no basis in fact? Once again, this line should be reverted or removed.Jbfwildcat (talk) 06:15, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Once again, it either is or is not the "death penalty", and since the "death penalty" didn't exist in 1952 (and the NCAA didn't even have to power to enforce such a punishment at that time anyway), the term "death penalty" is misleading and inaccurate when it comes to describing the 1952-53 Kentucky situation. It like me saying that every 21-foot shot that a player made in 1952 was a 3-pointer. In short, the rule did NOT yet exist, so no program could be punished under it, correct? Further, you list something that someone says unofficially 20 years after the fact as a legitimate source. That's revisionist history, and frankly, as you so like to say, it has no encyclopedic content. In closing, Kentucky WAS NOT punished with the "death penalty" in 1952, and the facts are on the side of this. You're a smart guy, and a fair guy, and I don't understand how you cannot understand this simple logic.Jbfwildcat (talk) 07:45, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Hey, did you see where Leochews created another Wikipedia account? As for the "death penalty", what Kentucky received in 1952 was not even close to the modern day rule, and keep in mind, the modern day rule is the ONLY criteria. Now, if you want to call Kentucky's 1952 punishment, "death penalty-like", then I see your point. However, the punishment was certainly NOT the "death penalty" (even looking back, the punishment doesn't come close to matching the 1985 criteria), so I must give strong protest to your alluding to it as such. By the way, who died and made Walter Byers the king of all revisionist history?Jbfwildcat (talk) 08:04, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
My friend, all you have to do is look at the "death penalty" Wiki page. There you will see a new username, "Giochews" reverting my edits, and using the EXACT same tone as on here. Hey, you're the boss, but I keep the same user name, don't post under unregistered IP addresses, don't create multiple accounts, and say what you will, but I've posted facts. May I remind you that you just threatened to ban me from posting on UK-related articles, and it just seems a bit strange to me that this other person hasn't at least gotten the same warning. Look, you're a fair dude, and I'm cool with you, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander.Jbfwildcat (talk) 08:30, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
I am "Giochews," and I can assure you I am not Leochews, nor do I know them. You can check the IP addresses if you want. --76.217.24.167 (talk) 01:21, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
I wasn't going to make any more contributions to this discussion, but I felt the need to let everyone know that I am not using two user names. I have only used one username. I would welcome anyone looking into the IP addresses of the edits under this other username because its not me. For the record, I think jbfwildcat is delusional for not recognizing that UK was the first school to receive the death penalty. He can say or believe whatever he wants but its commonly known and acknowledged that UK got the first death penalty. I am blown away that he would try to remove UK from the wikipedia death penalty page. It seems that all he wants to do is remove anything negative about UK from wikipedia regardless of whether it is fact or not. His name clearly shows his bias as does his prior history editing wikipedia pages about Kentucky basketball. My edits have been fair and accurate. I have not attempted to vandalize any UK pages or say anything that wasn't true. Again, I think the Rupp page now finally is close enough to the truth for my comfort and I really appreciate the work that Moe has put into it. Leochews (talk) 02:33, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Moe. I also added the material you wrote about that event on the UK basketball page under the Adolph Rupp section for consistency. That page also used references from bigbluehistory and I think your writeup is to a much higher standard than what I replaced. Leochews (talk) 02:56, 10 January 2012 (UTC) "1952: Byers files Case Report No. 1 representing the first formal action of the Subcommittee on Infractions. It charges that 10 basketball players at the University of Kentucky had received impermissible financial aid. The Southeastern Conference suspends the Kentucky basketball team from league play for one year. The NCAA Council, through its Membership Committee, bans Kentucky’s entire athletics program from intercollegiate competition for one year. In effect, it was the Association’s first “death penalty,” though its enforcement was binding only through constitutional language that required members to compete against only those schools that were compliant with NCAA rules. Despite fears that it would resist, Kentucky accepts the penalty and, in turn, gives credibility to the NCAA’s ability to enforce its rules." NCAA, Chronology of Enforcement, http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Enforcement/Resources/Chronology+of+Enforcement accessed online on 1/9/2012 There it is, straight from the NCAA page. Can we please end this argument now? It was the death penalty. Leochews (talk) 03:13, 10 January 2012 (UTC) "In effect" doesn't constitute something, it simply means the overall effect was like it. Now, if you want to call the result of Kentucky's 1952-53 penalty "death penalty-like", then fine, but the fact remains that the term wasn't even coined until 3 decades later, the rule wasn't passed until 3 decades later, and in 1952, the NCAA lacked the enforcement power to enforce such a penalty. You have to remember, the modern day "death penalty" means the complete shutdown of a sports program, and this didn't happen to Kentucky Basketball in the 1952-53 season. They still practiced, they still had players on scholarship, they still had payed coaches, they still held fundraisers, they still recruited, they still played public scrimmages, they still had a sports information department, and they still collected revenue. None of this is possible with a program punished under the "death penalty". Once again, this means a COMPLETE shutdown of the program, and all that happened to Kentucky in 1952-53 was that NCAA member schools refused to play them by the request (not mandate) of the NCAA. Therefore, in all ways, the 1952-53 Kentucky punishment did not fit the true meaning of the term, "death penalty". The rule didn't exist, the NCAA lacked the power to enforce such a rule, and the punishment did not match the criteria of the modern rule. So, while it was "death penalty-like", it was certainly NOT the "death penalty". To call it as such is the epitome of revisionist history.Jbfwildcat (talk) 05:28, 10 January 2012 (UTC) You have seriously reached the point of embarrassing yourself. First of all, in effect means "in actuality or in reality." http://thesaurus.com/browse/in+effect Are you, in effect, telling me that the NCAA has no idea what they are talking about? Seriously, let it go. Leochews (talk) 22:28, 10 January 2012 (UTC) Tell me, can you not understand what I just wrote (all facts), or are you just so dense with hatred for Kentucky Basketball that you can't listen to simple facts and logic. Once again, here are the FACTS: (1) The "death penalty" punishment didn't exist until 1985. Something either is something or it isn't, and Kentucky's punishment of 1952 wasn't the "death penalty", it was "death penalty-like". As pointed out above, this was due ONLY to the fact that Kentucky ended up cancelling the season, but this did NOT constitute the complete and utter shutting down of the program, which would be the requirement. You can't cherry-pick one thing and then create revisionist history about it. That's not accurate, nor fair, and you know it.Jbfwildcat (talk) 23:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC) OK, despite some sniping, I think we've come to a consensus again. Further, I felt the article needed a bit more in depth information about Rupp the coach, and I added a section about his coaching style and philosophy. I tried to word it in an unbiased manner, and I listed references for my information and quotes (you can also Google all the quotes). I hope this is suitable, but please take a look at it and see if it can be improved. Thank You.Jbfwildcat (talk) 15:13, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Tell me, have you taken a look at Phog Allen's, Dean Smith's, or John Wooden's Wiki pages? If you have, then PLEASE tell me how my last section that was added in was unacceptable. Dear Jesus, I simply post facts here, and then list the very best of references on Adolph Rupp (including the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame). Tell me, what else can I do? Most of these books are somewhat online, and they are accurate. Frankly, this page is being held to a higher sense of scrutiny than other similar pages, and I don't understand that. What I just posted today was common knowledge among anyone in the college basketball community, and I, for the life of me, can't seem to understand WHY you have a problem with it. This page is getting to be a joke, and frankly, it's because that much simple content, completely based on sourced fact, will not be allowed to be posted here. And yet, the Dean Smith and John Wodden pages are just FLOWING with biased content. What I posted was historical FACT, and honestly, I don't understand your behavior. An explanation from you would be appreciated.Jbfwildcat (talk) 00:25, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
You're missing the point. None of what I just posted today is inaccurate or without several references. Nor is anything I posted against what is known and accepted by the college basketball community. God knows, I just heard from you about "accepted facts" over Kentucky's 1952 probation, and yet, you can't understand that what I just posted are simple, unbiased facts, all from credible sources. Tell you what, do some research, and then disprove anything that I have just posted. Use any references you like. Seriously, it's almost as if you don't like the tone of something, then you want to remove it.Jbfwildcat (talk) 00:55, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Well, then I guess you need to take up things with the Naismith Basketball Hall-of-Fame, because that's the term they use in their bio on Coach Rupp.Jbfwildcat (talk) 01:35, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
I didn't copy and paste anything. I only used the term they used, and I listed them as a reference. Of course, if you had actually visited their webpage, you would know that I didn't copy and paste anything. Really reaching now, are we?Jbfwildcat (talk) 01:58, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Once again, I didn't copy and paste anything, and I gave credit to the source for my addition (which I didn't post exactly). By the way, I wasn't the original poster of what you just tried to imply, but I guess they got their information from the same reliable source that I did. Once again, it is a reliable source. By the way, other such things have already been done in this article, using EXACT quotes from a website, including by yourself.Jbfwildcat (talk) 02:32, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
My mind is still blown that you are allowed to edit these UK basketball pages. You are clearly biased to editing UK basketball and its history in a biased manner. This is supposed to be information that is held to an academic standard of writing. Your entries are repeatedly not even close to this standard. You have a history of editing UK pages in a biased manner for long over a year. I counted today and you have edited this page 38 times. Seriously, 38 times? I can understand wanting to edit the page in a way that is historically accurate and capturing all of Coach Rupp's achievements and success at UK, but you seriously edit this page every day. And all of your edits are completely biased. I showed you that the NCAA recognizes the 1952-1953 season as the first death penalty season on their own website. Even your own favorite website, bigbluehistory, had an excerpt from the memoirs of the guy who handed out the penalty. He recognizes it as the death penalty. I'm sure Rupp himself would recognize it as the death penalty. Yet, you still can't seen to accept this fact as a reality. This entire ordeal has really diminished my thoughts of wikipedia. I knew that there was information on the website that was incorrect and I knew it had to be taken with a grain of salt at times. But I seriously didn't know that someone with this kind of history of inaccurately editing pages in a biased, non neutral point of view manner could just continue to edit pages. I thought an account like this would long be banned for constant, horrible edits. His history shows it. Why is this guy still allowed to edit Wikipedia? Leochews (talk) 02:58, 12 January 2012 (UTC) And yet, I have provided and updated most of the historical information on this page as a registered user, while YOU have posted things as an unregistered user for weeks (many of them vandalism), and then only registered with Wiki to solely edit this page, and ones related to it. Seriously, you have been registered for less than a week, and you ONLY decided to register when this page was semi-protected.Jbfwildcat (talk) 03:34, 12 January 2012 (UTC) College basketball master table[edit]I really like the new layout for the master table. It's an aesthetically pleasing layout that both conserves space and still contains all of the desired information. Good job. Jrcla2 (talk) 14:52, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
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Adolph Rupp page vandalism again.[edit]I hate to bring this up again, but the Adolph Rupp page has been vandalized several times today. Is there anything Wiki can do about protecting this page? Seriously, the same person is constantly creating new accounts, and then posting the same vandalism over and over. Please take a look at today's history and keep an eye on this again. I know it's frustrating, but the level of some people's agenda is amazing. Thank you.Jbfwildcat (talk) 03:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC) I've had ONE other account "giochews" which was deleted, so I created my current account. I made some drastic changes to show the obnoxiousness of the page, which you have made a joke. You have continually edited everything to your standards, which are not the standards of Wikipedia. You have changed everything, including the stuff Moe added a few weeks ago. I made some changes to information that was one-sided, and you reverted it within 1 minute, and then made the same changes yourself! What's wrong with you? --Mullinwhite (talk) 04:13, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
More of the same by Leochews on the Adolph Rupp page.[edit]A consensus was reaching on the wording of the 1951 point shaving scandal section, and Leochews fought hard for the inclusion of the term "death penalty" to be added. Now, he wants to change the meaning to suit his agenda. I contend if there is no such thing as the "death penalty", then no reference to it should be allowed in the article. Further, the edits he's making to the new sections added to the article are removing information that is common knowledge among the college basketball community, able to be verified in dozens of publications, both online and in print. Some of these are listed as references.Jbfwildcat (talk) 18:47, 22 January 2012 (UTC) Moe, this person is reverting edits of things YOU added to this page, along with your sources. Jbfwildcat (talk) 21:22, 22 January 2012 (UTC) No surprise to see you here complaining to Moe. You rewrote everything Moe added to that page. You also revert every single edit I make, even if you agree with it. Moe did not write that Byers referred to the UK penalty as the "de facto" death penalty, you did. I have never vandalized the Rupp page or even said anything derogatory about the man, I just wanted the page to be accurate. Even after I cited the NCAA recognizing this case as the first instance of the death penalty, you still insist that it is not. How can you deny this? Leochews (talk) 22:44, 22 January 2012 (UTC) Moe and I both made edits to the section weeks ago, and got the wording fair. You agreed with this at the time. This is nothing that is not factual about this section, and yet you now can't decide if it was the "death penalty" or not. On one hand, you say that Byers called it the "death penalty" (he referred to it as such after the 1985 legislation was passed), and then you say that there is no such thing as the "death penalty", and the 1985 ruling did not establish it. You can't have it both ways. In effect, the 1953 ruling was the "death penalty in some ways (but not all), but it was never referred to as such until AFTER the 1985 ruling was passed. Hence, in hindsight. The section explains this clearly.Jbfwildcat (talk) 22:51, 22 January 2012 (UTC) How can you say that the 1953 punishment was the death penalty in some ways but not at all in the same sentence? That doesn't make any sense to me at all. I agreed with Moe's original edits. He stopped editing this after the citations to the NCAA were inserted. You changed what Moe wrote after he stopped editing it. That is what bothered me. We agreed on a section, yet you continued to edit it based on your own standards, not wikipedia's. Leochews (talk) 23:00, 22 January 2012 (UTC) Nope, wrong. Sorry, but it was agreed by all that Kentucky 1953 punishment was "in effect" the death penalty, and that both Byers and the NCAA now retroactively referred to it as such. The section states this. I didn't add anything to the section other than including the entire quote from the NCAA website, something you also tried to remove several times. Once again, YOU are the one removing things that Moe added, not me, and the wording that is being changed was added and agreed upon weeks ago. I have not added anything to the section since then. YOU are the one who has opened up the can of worms again. By the way, you also stated today that the 1985 ruling was not actually the "death penalty". And you call that factual?Jbfwildcat (talk) 23:21, 22 January 2012 (UTC) What I said was the NCAA does not have a rule defined as the death penalty that was created in 1985, which it does not. The death penalty is a term that loosely means the NCAA canceled a teams' entire season. All five cases of the death penalty are different. Two of them happened prior to the 1985 rule you are referencing. In fact, SMU was the only school to be punished under the `985 rule you speak of. This rule is the repeat offender rule. It is not called the death penalty in the NCAA rule book. However, the NCAA recognizes that when a school (UK Basketball in 1953) has a season canceled because of major violations, it is the death penalty. I don't know how to make that more clear. Leochews (talk) 23:31, 22 January 2012 (UTC) No, the 1985 ruling does more than just give the ability to the NCAA to cancel a season. it enables them to SHUT DOWN a sports program for a variety of reasons, and NO, this power did not exist before the 1985 ruling, and nor was any previous NCAA case referred to as the "death penalty" prior to this 1985 ruling, by the media or otherwise. Further, the NCAA (and Byers) only started to refer to Kentucky's 1953 penalty as the "death penalty" AFTER the 1985 legislation, and even at that, they only do so with qualifiers like "in effect". The section explains all of this, and it's the truth. I don't see your problem.Jbfwildcat (talk) 23:42, 22 January 2012 (UTC) No, that's not what the 1985 rule says at all. The 1985 rule is limited to banning a team for two seasons of competition. It does not shut down a program completely. SMU wasn't shut down completely. They still had some scholarships, the practiced and they were still allowed to pay coaches. The NCAA has never banned anyone from competition permanently or completely shut down a program. That has never happened. Leochews (talk) 01:18, 23 January 2012 (UTC) And also, it was not "agreed upon by all" that the Kentucky 1953 punishment was "in effect" the death penalty. No one else was even involved in that discussion. Moe stopped commenting on the thread and archived it. You are the only one who said that. No one else agreed with you. Leochews (talk) 01:33, 23 January 2012 (UTC) While no school has received the full measure of the "death penalty" (including SMU Football), the NCAA DOES have the right under this legislation to completely shut down a program's FULL operations for one or two years. The 1985 legislation gave them the power to do this, if they so choose to. Once again, your "facts" are not in order.Jbfwildcat (talk) 02:08, 23 January 2012 (UTC) You need to be more clear when you talk. You said shut down a sports program, you did not say "shut down a program's full operations for one or two years". There is a big difference between those two phrases. When I heard you say shut down a program, I interpreted that as actually shutting down a program permanently. Leochews (talk) 02:17, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Should we move the discussion to the talk page for the Rupp page? Hopefully we can clear these things up. Are you still able to edit the page Moe? Leochews (talk) 01:19, 24 January 2012 (UTC) I understand what is required of this page, and I understand that some wording will have to be re-worded or deleted. I merely want to maintain historical accuracy and context on this page, and nothing more. I am very sorry for constant strife on this page, and I am willing to work together to achieve a harmonious consensus in the future. However, I suggest that this page remain locked until the time frame is up, as this will give all a chance to cool down a bit.Jbfwildcat (talk) 02:25, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
Persondata[edit]Hi, just one thing I've noticed about your changes to 'persondata' - association football players should not be described as "football player", due to the ambiguous nature of the 'football' element - instead, they should be described as a "footballer." Regards, GiantSnowman 14:20, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
Looking for help with formatting article and posting it[edit]Hi, I am not sure if you can help me. I am looking for someone to help edit and post this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sportsfan5000/Adam_Windsor I have cited and referenced it and can continue to do so as I do more and more research. It was suggested by an administer that I try and find someone who edits some prowrestling articles to help me. Let me know if you can help or know anyone that could help me. I am not great with wikipedia and am just really learning, but anything you could suggest or help with would be very appreicated. I have contact a couple of people so far but have not had any feedback or help yet. Thanks. --Sportsfan5000 (talk) 16:15, 3 February 2012 (UTC) Looking for help with a Saint Joseph's Article[edit]Hey Moe, I'm currently working on an article for the 2003-2004 Saint Joseph's Hawks Mens Basketball and I was wondering if you were at all interested in helping me add to it. The url is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003%E2%80%9304_Saint_Joseph%27s_Hawks_men%27s_basketball_team , thanks for the help. ~~5hane2012~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5hane2012 (talk • contribs) 01:19, 24 April 2012 (UTC) Your revert to List of Windows Phone devices[edit]Hi, FYI regarding your revert to List of Windows Phone devices. I've left a message on the talk page of the IP user who added it. Callanecc (talk) 08:13, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
ANI[edit]Please see here I don't know how to say this without sounding combative, but your post there simply made no sense. Can you please review your post and my response? Thank you. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:32, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Regarding my talk page[edit]Since I've asked him constantly to leave my talk page alone which he ignores that statement. What am I going to do in this circumstance? Should I notify you since you suggested that he leaves my page alone? It's gotten to the point I'm constantly reverting him and he doesn't care because it seems to be the fact he's trying to get me to do something against him. [1] For example that link shows that he still disregarded it and posted his "opinion" which I did not care to hear. ViriiK (talk) 07:31, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
I would appreciate your feedback[edit]First off, you list of awards is quite impressive. Way to go! I have written the new pages Most wins by active starting quarterbacks (NFL) and List of NFL franchise post-season streaks . If you have time and the inclination, could I get your feedback? Thanks Spparky (talk) 18:38, 14 August 2012 (UTC) A barnstar for you![edit]
AN/I[edit]Feel free to give that opinion. But that is not a proper close/hat in any fashion. Arkon (talk) 07:58, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
Dalej78[edit]I noticed your comment on his talk page. Today, I reverted some really unproductive cuts he made to Paul Ryan. Do you think he could be convinced to discuss his objections on Talk before implementing them? Still-24-45-42-125 (talk) 14:34, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
I think you're right. BLPN is geared towards the removal of libel, as opposed to keeping well-cited, relevant facts. Worst case, I'll let it sit in the "wrong" version for a while before correcting it. Still-24-45-42-125 (talk) 15:32, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
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Stop it[edit]Thanks, but try to come up with something a little more productive than "fuck Wikipedia" repeatedly as feedback. Your feedback has been removed. Regards, — Moe Epsilon 23:47, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
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Rlevse[edit]Please don't edit-war. In your recent edit to Wikipedia:Former administrators you again linked former administrator Rlevse to "While these former admins voluntarily relinquished adminship, the Arbitration Committee has determined that they must go through RFA and/or apply to the Committee if they want to be resysopped. In other cases, this is left to bureaucrat discretion". There is no such ArbCom determination and you really need to be aware of the effect of your thoughtless edits on editors currently in good standing. This is the second time you have inserted that allegation. As with all disputed content, you need to discuss issues on the relevant talk page, rather than attempting to force your version through reverts. --RexxS (talk) 16:55, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
The Signpost: 24 September 2012[edit]
Account number[edit]I was wondering how you find out your account number, since you have yours stated on your user page... thanks. ;-) — raekyt 23:44, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
File:Gone With the Sin cover.jpg listed for deletion[edit]A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Gone With the Sin cover.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 22:03, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
24.185.156.226[edit]The user committed a pretty severe WP:BLP violation and would probably recommend going above a level-1 warning. The user has subsequently been blocked, FYI. as seen here. Zepppep (talk) 05:43, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
The Signpost: 01 October 2012[edit]
hi moe[edit]nice to see you are still around. last i looked in on you (some years ago I suppose), you had taken a leave of absence. i'm pleased to see you. ... aa:talk 01:20, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
The Signpost: 08 October 2012[edit]
Welcome to STiki[edit]
Removal from Trinidad and Tobago page of Edit to include Gaya Patal reference .[edit]Dear Moe Epsilon, Wow! Whacked with a STiki on my very first edit! I guess I was grateful at least for the "good faith" concession, since I am not a vandal, a troll, a saboteur of moral, clean-living WP pages or an internet porn promoter. Having looked up "STiki" I can see that it may be an attempt at objective assessment, but in this case I think the use of it was misguided. My edit was meant as a bald statement of fact, without any window-dressing. Perhaps distasteful to some, but after all these articles aren't intended to be travel brochures where the sun always shines and only nice things and people are mentioned. There are two sides to life, even in Trinidad, and its reality gave birth to a pornstar as well as to a V.S. Naipaul. Gaya Patal's story might be a sad one, but if her name's been suppressed simply as being too nasty for "paradise" then that is what I would consider "unhelpful". PS: If you had acted instead on the basis of NOR I might have understood that, but I would have pointed out that the existing reference to Etienne Charles in that Culture section is similarly unsourced and served as my model for what was permissible. regards Quidamo (talk) 18:33, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
Re:Vandalism[edit]...yeah, sorry about that, BUT I am in a meeting with friends at UTEP (I am proxie writing fora fraternity and these guys are rather drunk at the moment from Friday night drinking) and the system crashed, which is keeping a friend of mine from finishing an assignment. Like I said in the edit summary, "everybody gets 1" :) All the same, I will keep my good cheer, and thank you for reverting the vandalism in the article even though as a UTEP alumni myself I can vouch for the fact that really should have stayed in the article. TomStar81 (Talk) 03:29, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
Congratulations from STiki![edit]
The title Paul Biya does conform with my inclusion of being a dictator. Magazines and other references can pay allegation to this claim of mine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bntafa (talk • contribs) 03:06, October 14, 2012
Kia[edit]Ashley Spurlin is dead . Stop changing his date of death. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.230.237.1 (talk) 03:07, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
Glory Hole[edit]Hello Moe I edited the Glory Hole entry, as it is widely known as a 'glory hole yum yum' in its respective circles.can you please reconsider this fuck up? Sincerely concerned user — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.168.255.235 (talk • contribs)
Sorry i do not know what you are on about! Would you mind explaining? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.101.173 (talk) 12:13, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
I can assure you I would do nothing of the such. I think you have made accusations on the wrong person! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.101.173 (talk) 16:25, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
Hello, re aavida maa aavida[edit]not sure why you deleted my addition. I provided an english translation of the title. Isn't that expanding up on the written info? why is that bad? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.147.224.225 (talk • contribs)
Bo Dietl[edit]On the Bo Dietl page it says its an Arby's commercial about a roast beef sandwich with cheese. It is not. It is about a hot turkey sandwich, sliced fresh. Its the whole point of the commercial. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.231.16.56 (talk) 02:40, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Hellllooo MoE[edit]Hello mOE.
are U A HUMAN OR R YOU A BOT?
MOE. PLEASE TELL ME IF YOU ARE A HUMAN OR A BOT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Battleofnaxos (talk • contribs) 04:13, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
How dare you undo my fucking hilarious penis envy edit!!![edit]C'mon man don't be such a fucking buzzkill. That was so fucking funny. Imagine all the fucking people that would fucking laugh at it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.5.201.165 (talk • contribs)
Who are you?[edit]MOE. IT'S ME AGAIN. MOE LISTEN UP. MOE, WHO ARE YOU? MOE, ARE YOU THE EDITOR IN CHIEF AT WIKIPEDIA? MOE, I THINK YOU SHOULD NOT LET PEOPLE EDIT WIKIPEDIA. THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO USE WIKIPEDIA IN PAPERS FOR UNIVERSITY. THANK YOU MOE — Preceding unsigned comment added by Battleofnaxos (talk • contribs) 05:14, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
I just like caps, Moe. Also, my edit to the Pennant Hills High School page is true, please don't delete it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Battleofnaxos (talk • contribs) 05:24, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
The Signpost: 15 October 2012[edit]
Thank you[edit]Thank you for taking the time to participate in my RfA. I hope that I will be able to improve based on the feedback I received and become a better editor. AutomaticStrikeout 22:12, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Concerning the Birds page/ 98.164.21.108[edit]Hi, this message is concerning the unconstructed content placed on the page that seemed to grab my attention( the Birds novella). Moe, I would like to start off by saying I was not aware of my sister logging onto my laptop, to log onto Wikipedia and type in senseless text. If I may ask, what did she enter into the Birds page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.164.21.108 (talk) 23:09, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Please edit carefully[edit]Your recent revert of vandalism was a little hasty. Although you correctly spotted the vandalism correctly you missed earlier vandal edit and in doing so reverted to an earlier vandalised version of the page. Keep up the hard work. 90.197.111.37 (talk) 12:10, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
Encyclopediac summarization of the term "battlement".[edit]I have summarized the term battlement in order to alieviate confusion of the term.
I suggest that if you abbreviate concesus then allow me to refer to to a bit of ciriculum that Iv'e left behind under the term "rope". Battlement is short therefore the word itself must depend on some physical level for the purposed action of defending the plausible existance or quite simply refuse to exist. A pattern of structure focused of structure of actions of defensive capability. How many examples can be issued if term is not encyclopedic? Wikipedia is for the people by the people and quite frankly we go by the list. Any contrary of this belief in monstrosity for better looks is dishonored through the belief of a solitary male as of a warrior of virtue. Thank god for the meaning of encyclopedia. Thank god for a pattern of structure focused of structure of actions of defensive capability. Encyclopedia. Think about it. Encyclopedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.187.14.181 (talk) 01:00, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Congratulations from STiki[edit]
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