User talk:Mr789

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Skrewdriver edits

Hi - thanks for your post regarding the changes I made to the Skrewdriver article. Some people just go ahead and get into "revert wars", so I appreciate your courtesy.

Regarding what should and should not be links, you can read the policy at "External links".

Summarising:

What should be linked to

1. Articles about any organization, person, or other entity should link to their official
   site, if they have one.

so if there is a "www.skrewdriver.net" or such, this would be ok.

5. Sites that contain neutral and accurate material not already in the article.

the "Tribute to Ian Stuart" might not be classed as "neutral", as it's clearly describing him as a "hero", but I chose not to remove it this time. I'm sorry if this sounds a bit "snobby", but "a very interesting site", "tons of information" isn't really what would be described as "encyclopaedic" or "scholarly" language. Firstly, "a very interesting site" is not really "Neutral Point of View", and "tons of information", just isn't "formal English" - you could say "an extensive site", but "tons of information" is a bit too colloquial - information isn't measured in "tons". I'm sorry if I sound like your English teacher here, but Wikipedia does strive for formal/"proper" English usage. My "blog" comment was maybe a bit uncalled for, but all I meant was that the phrase was too informal.

Also, I had a look at the "tribute" page, and found that, sure, there was a "tribute" to Stuart, but the rest of the site seemed to be all about the British People's Party, so the link seemed to be more about the BPP rather than the subject of the article, Ian Stuart. I'm afraid I wouldn't be surprised if the link is removed at some point, as it's clearly not "neutral", and doesn't really contain a vast lot of information about ISD. In the meantime, I think that a better description would be "British People's Party Tribute to Ian Stuart Donaldson".

Links to normally avoid

Sites that primarily exist to sell products or services.

I felt your link to the site for buying Skrewdriver CDs, "fell foul" of this policy, as it clearly is just for selling products, even if Skrewdriver CDs are hard to come by. Basically, Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia, so links should add useful, neutral, verifiable information to articles. If you see links to sites which are only for offering articles for sale to any other article, feel free to remove them. Links to reviews of CDs are acceptable, especially to review sites which are not affiliated with the artist involved. Fan-sites etc. should "not normally be linked", according to the policy, as these are by their nature not "neutral".

I hope that this clarifies some things for you. And by the way, Wikipedia is no "respecter of persons", so it doesn't matter if you're a complete newbie or an "experienced" editor - if you add useful, verifiable edits, it doesn't matter if it's your first edit or your ten-thousand-and-first! However, I too have asked advice from others, and I appreciate your courtesy, as I said, some others, even "experienced" editors, get into silly edit/revert wars, without even explaining what they object to!

A couple of small things - don't put spaces before your paragraphs, unless you want them to appear in boxes - like this.

This sentence is in a box.

Your post to me was a bit hard to read because of this, for example, if you look at the paragraph above, with a space in front, it comes out like this:

I hope that this clarifies some things for you. And by the way, Wikipedia is no "respecter of persons", so it doesn't matter if you're a complete newbie or an "experienced" editor - if you add useful, verifiable edits, it doesn't matter if it's your first edit or your ten-thousand-and-first! However, I too have asked advice from others, and I appreciate your courtesy, as I said, some others, even "experienced" editors, get into silly edit/revert wars, without even explaining what they object to!

and you have to use the scroll bars to read it! If you do want a paragraph in a box (say for a quotation), you need to press return/enter/the upside-down-L-shaped key (whatever you call it!) at the end of each line, and put a space at the start of each new line. It's agood idea to use the "Show Preview" button to see how it's going to look.

And finally, always sign your posts on talk pages (but not in articles!) with four "tildes" ie. ~ ~ ~ ~ (without the spaces!) - I had to go to the page history to find out who had written to me!

All the best....

Camillus (talk) 01:02, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

POV

I removed your addition to the POV page, because disambiguation pages in wikipedia are tools to navigate between wikipedia articles about things that could have the same name. It is not a table of all possible acronyms. the proper place for such a table is wiktionary. 18:05, 24 March 2006 (UTC)