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Happy editing! 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:36, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Steven Hurder (May 20)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Iwaqarhashmi were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Waqar💬 08:08, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Sorry, I am new here, and am not sure whether I should revise my article or drop it. Is there some page with an explanation for what qualifies a scientist as notable? I assumed that for mathematics the inclusion criteria are Annals-level publications. I added Hurder since he has several publications in top level journals. I don't want to waste time fixing the page in case I misunderstand the notability criteria, but I don't want to drop it in case this is more of a technical issue. Muluk muluk (talk) 11:15, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Muluk muluk! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Waqar💬 08:08, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NPROF and the title Emeritus Professor[edit]

I can't make up my mind if the title is sufficient. For me it is right one the borderline. Thus, any extra proof of notability you can bring to the draft moves it across the border. Always remember that I may not be correct! 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:38, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think you have missed the point of good referencing. A shorthand is WP:42. A longer version:

For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, in multiple secondary sources which are WP:RS, and is significant coverage. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact cited, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make this draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the person is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today.

Please pause and find references about Hurder. We know he exists, and that is all your current references tell us. What we need to see is notability which is verified by the references. Can;t find the references? Then the draft will not be accepted. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:37, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Steven Hurder (May 20)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Ratnahastin were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Steven Hurder and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Ratnahastin (talk) 15:03, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]