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User:Narutolovehinata5/Minori Suzuki

Hello. I note that you moved this article to my userspace a year ago as a result of a deletion discussion. Earlier this year, I put it up for deletion review, but the consensus was to keep the article in my userspace as coverage remained lacking at the time. Since then, there has been this interview on Anime News Network and Japanese coverage such as this, this, this, and this. Given the coverage she now has, would it be safe for you to move this back to the mainspace, or should it first go through another deletion review? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:32, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: I think that the consensus among the participants of the deletion discussion was that at the time of article creation, the subject of the article did not meet notability standards. You mentioned Anime News Network, but that website is used multiple times as a reference in the current article draft. I do not speak Japanese, but do the sources you linked here prove that she has additional roles as a voice actress since the deletion discussion? — Music1201 talk 18:35, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
According to this, she currently only has five roles, only one of which is a main role, so she probably still does not pass WP:ENT at this time. However, she has received coverage in Japanese sources that are specifically about her rather than her main role. Would that be enough for her to pass WP:GNG at least, or should the article go through another Deletion review to determine if that's the case? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:24, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: If you're looking for input by others, it should be submitted to Wikipedia:Articles for creation, not a deletion review. — Music1201 talk 23:46, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

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Hi. I'm just letting you know that I have removed your account from the NewPage Reviewer group because your participation at WP:ORCP leaves me in doubt that you will be able to follow the instructions in the tutorial. If you woud like to help keep the Wikipedia clean you are welcome to help checking for vandalism at Recent Changes.Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:34, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

@Kudpung: Of course, having been grandfathered the permission 7 months ago and having made 1,017 uncontested patrols, 3 that were contested (you were one of the contesters; all three were made 12, 12, and 13 months ago), I think it makes absolute perfect sense to pre-emptively revoke the permission while just-so-happening to avoid reading the criteria for revocation for the new page reviewer right. That's okay, I think others at WP:ANI or perhaps even Arbcom are more than willing to explain to you that you may not revoke rights whenever you want without a valid reason; especially when you did not grant the permission in the first place. So can you tell me where on the criteria for revocation does it say "Editors who participate in WP:ORCP should have their new page reviewer right revoked"? Or, even better, can you give me an example of a similar situation where an administrator got away with revoking user rights without a valid explanation? What exactly do you mean by "False positive by grandfathering"? Do you have evidence to prove that I was granted the right without meeting the grandfathering criteria? Why does your explanation on the user rights page differ from the explanation you left above? Have you been granted special permission to revoke any user's permissions for any reason? I didn't think so. Are you willing to undo the unnecessary user rights removal, or do more well-suited admins at WP:ANI need to? — Music1201 talk 00:55, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
Edit: After taking a quick look at the other numerous amounts of complaints about you, I'm bringing this up to WP:ANI. — Music1201 talk 01:14, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

(edit conflict)::Being part of a task-based user group is neither a right nor a privilege. There is clear evidence that you do not, or are not able to read instructions on this web site. Your account has been added back to the Reviewer user group. Please understand however, that user groups are not a promotion or a reward and can be revoked at administrator discretion if the user demonstrates any signs of unsuitability - which do not necessarily need to be related to the task in hand. Please note also that starting this week, for certain reasons, the work of all reviewers is going to be closely monitored. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:24, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

@Kudpung: By right I was referring to "user right". What evidence is there that I don't or that I am unable to read instructions on this website? I'm not grasping your point on unsuitability. For at least the past 12 months no user has brought to my attention that I am unsuitable to review new pages, and the past several months no user has questioned any area of Wikipedia that I help in. Please tell me what I am "unsuitable in". — Music1201 talk 01:30, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
The 'right' has been restored. I designed, called for, wrote all the rules for, and implemented this new user group in November last year. The grandfathering process was not perfect and several grandfathered accounts have since been removed. Grandfathering was done to ensure some continuity of the NPP process while users would build up a new core group of suitably qualified patrollers by applying for the 'right' at PERM where their suitability would be examined in depth. As it happens, unless I am greatly mistaken, you recently opened a poll at ORPC wherein it was clear to all the respondents that you had not read the instructions. As NPR has the most complex set of instructions of ant user group on Wikipedia, it stands to reason that you suitability for such tasks would immediately be questioned. Certain serious issues have come to light recently with the performance of new page Reviewers, and we are all on high alert.
If there are any problems with your reviewing, you will be notified and I will offer help as I always do. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:53, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

@Kudpung: Okay. Thank you. — Music1201 talk 02:26, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

The performance of all New Page Reviewers is coming under review this week. Mainly for the purpose of gathering statistics to measure the efficiency of the new system and to be used in determining an additional system that is currently under development. I have ave noticed however that you have not been very active since the New Page Reviewer right was rolled out, and in view of the backlog, we need all the help we can get. THe instructions have been rewritten and grandfathered user were not referred to hem. You may therefore wish to get up to speed at WP:NPP if you have not done so already. You may also wish to use the new 'move to draft' tool instead of the one you are currently using.Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:03, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

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Hello Music1201, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

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How to successfully dispute with 2 opposing views

Dear Music1201: I am new to Wikipedia and don't know much about the way things work. I recently filed a dispute, but didn't notify each person right, so it was cancelled. Is there another way to handle this? Here is the situation. About 3 years ago I went to the William M. Branham page and there was nothing wrong with it. All accurate information. Just recently I went to the same page and it is all changed with quotes from a certain Baptist Theologian, who apparently doesn't believe in Divine Healing, in place of what was there originally. When I tried to replace some of the original information it was changed back and now even more information has been deleted also. The people doing it are quite adamant that it is Wikipedia policy not to allow any talk of miracles to be told but this particular person had a life filled with miracles and unusual things and there should be some way to tell about it in order to accurately tell the story. There are at least 3 Historians who tell it like it was. Is there anything that can be done here? Danpeanuts (talk)Danpeanuts (talk) 22:01, 8 September 2017 (UTC) 15:02, 08 September 2017

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