User talk:MvDort

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Hello, I left a message at Draft talk:Leopold Immanuel Jacob van Dort with this link, but I wanted to put it here in case it gets deleted: Donating copyrighted materials, this shows how you can go about giving us at Wikipedia a license to use text you own the copyright to. Please also see the welcome message above for info on how Wikipedia treats conflict of interest. Thank you. A S U K I T E 20:54, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Leopold Immanuel Jacob van Dort (July 9)[edit]

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KylieTastic (talk) 20:56, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, MvDort! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! KylieTastic (talk) 20:56, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

July 2021[edit]

Are there any other sources that you can provide apart from your own writings? Dan arndt (talk) 10:29, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I can give you references to all archive records and dates. Most is online, so then you can check for yourself. Would that help you? MvDort (talk) 18:38, 19 July 2021 (UTC) I added more references. Do I need to add the archive records? MvDort (talk) 20:05, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The more references outside your own publications the better.Dan arndt (talk) 00:51, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well there are not a lot of references outside my publications. The lack of research and facts was the reason why I did this research. It took me 2 years and is reviewed by 2 professors: professor Hanne Trautner-Kromann, Lund university, Sweden and professor Meir Bar-Ilan, Bar-Ilan university, Israel. Surely that should be enough. MvDort (talk) 07:44, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

When you did your research you must have sourced the information from somewhere - if you can provide those sources it would assist in establishing notability. Dan arndt (talk) 09:52, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- Indeed the information came from 14 archives in the world: the national archives of the Netherlands, the city archive Dordrecht, the city archive Amsterdam, the city archive Aachen, the archive of the university of Leipzig, the morovian archive, the Indian archive of Kochi, the archive of the jewish cemetaries of Amsterdam, Diemen, The Hague and Hamburg, the Cambridge university library, the scottish national library. My book has over 600 references, with all source documented. I suggest people read the book if they would like to check those. MvDort (talk) 14:34, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All Wikipedia pages and articles are edited collaboratively. No one, no matter what, has the right to act as though they are the owner of a particular article. The sources/references you’ve provided are potentially enough to satisfy Wikipedia’s notability requirements which is why I lodged an article for creation submission. Dan arndt (talk) 14:36, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting process. First you mentioned that my contribution was not good enough (too mich detail related to my book), and at risk to be completely deleted because of that. That is what tricked me into givng more details. I thought about it, and I deleted part of my contribution in order to achieve less detail, so that the references would be ballanced, and now I am not allowed to delete those details.~I am not happy with the process. Maybe you can imagine that. MvDort (talk) 15:32, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Just to let you know that there is a copy right notice in my book: Copyright text © 2021 by Mascha van Dort. All rights reserved. No part of this book may be used or reproduced in any manner whatsoever without written permission except in the case of brief quotations embodied in scientific articles and reviews. -> the amount of details you would like to publish in wikipedia with reference to my book I consider "more than brief quotations" and I do not give permission for that. Please keep the contribution as short as in the current version. Thanks. MvDort (talk) 15:48, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]