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Welcome To Wikipedia

Welcome!

Hello, Nat, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} after the question on your talk page. Again, welcome!  --AW 22:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Regarding edits to John Tory

Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia, Nat.tang! However, your edit here was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove spam from Wikipedia. If you were trying to insert a good link, please accept my creator's apologies, but note that the link you added, matching rule facebook\.com\/.+, is on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. Please read Wikipedia's external links policy for more information. If the link was to an image, please read Wikipedia's image tutorial on how to use a more appropriate method to insert the image into an article. If your link was intended to promote a site you own, are affiliated with, or will make money from inclusion in Wikipedia, please note that inserting spam into Wikipedia is against policy. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! Shadowbot 18:23, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Protecting pages

Hi Nat.tang, usually the way to protect pages is to list them at Wikipedia:Requests for Protection. However, the administrators usually only protect pages that are vandalized frequently, they don't usually do it before vandalism happens, unfortunately --AW 13:13, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Ce mai faci?

Hi Nat, I'm glad to hear you study Romanian. My revert was not really a correction, it only meant that the standard way to say "How are you" is "Ce mai faci", although I admit that many people, including me, sometimes use the shorter version "Ce faci". This is because there is hardly any posibility of confusion with the actual meaning of the shorter version, that is, "What are you doing". English has such different ways of saying the same thing too, from "How are you" and "How are you doing" to "What's up", Budweiser style included.

That "mai" does indeed mean "more" in other contexts, but here it means something close to "again" or "now". It's like you know how the person was up to the last time you saw each other and now you ask for an update: "What's new?". See also the dictionary definition at DEX online.

I'm afraid an encyclopedia entry is not the appropriate place for teaching Romanian. Those examples ar given in the article just to give readers a general impression of the language, not to make them fluent speakers of it. I suppose Wikibooks is the best place for "Teach yourself Romanian" lessons. — AdiJapan ☎ 08:32, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Fair use image use

Greetings. I've noticed you reverted a number of my edits where I removed fair use images from templates and userpages. Per terms of Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria item #9, the use of fair use images in templates or userpages is not permitted. The images that you have been attempting to use are all copyrighted, fair use images. Please do not put these, or any other copyrighted, fair use images on templates or userpages. If you have questions about this, I'd be happy to answer. Thanks, --Durin 15:15, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Nanking Massacre

Thanks for moving the Nanking Massacre article back to its original spot. --Folic Acid 21:07, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Toronto sister cities

Regarding your reversion of one of my edits, could you please elaborate why you feel that duplicating this list in the main article is at all relevant? The article about Toronto's sister cities has existed for over a year, contains better information, and reduces clutter on the main article. For long articles like Toronto, which have to cover a lot of information, simply directing the reader to supplementary articles creates a slimmer and more cohesive article. (Additionally, the section on "close relationship" is uncited, since the City of Toronto does not maintain such a list, so it should be deleted.)

You can find more information about this in the Manual of Style, particularly for level of detail. I am going to revert your change per my statements here. I'll watch your talk page, so please leave a reply here. Mindmatrix 13:32, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

If you feel it's necessary to delete the list on the Toronto page, thats fine with me. --Nat Tang talk to me! | Check on me! | Email Me! 13:36, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Associated Gospel Churches logo.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:Associated Gospel Churches logo.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Aksibot 01:09, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:City of Toronto Logo.gif)

Thanks for uploading Image:City of Toronto Logo.gif. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Aksibot 02:42, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:City of Toronto Logo.jpg)

Thanks for uploading Image:City of Toronto Logo.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Aksibot 02:43, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Your recent RfA

I'm sorry, but I've closed your Request for adminship prematurely. Simply put, you've only got 407 edits on Wikipedia; while edit count isn't the only determining factor, and numerous people have their own personal standards that the judge RfA candidates by, there was no chance that the RfA was going to pass.

I'm sorry about this, and hope you don't take it personally. If you continue to contribute to the project in a positive fashion, I'm confident that you could possibly run a successful RfA in the future. I think (aeropagitica)'s advice is extremely sound; you'd do quite well in taking it to heart. If you have any other questions about becoming an administrator, please don't hesitate to ask me. Good luck! EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:04, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

TingMing

I am still being plummeted by wrongful accusations by Tingming at the arbitration and sockpuppet page. He doesn't know when to give up. from this day forth, I am staying out of this. i'll let you guys take care of him Momusufan 03:15, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

The Wiki Wiffle Bat

The Wiki Wiffle Bat
I, Loren award you, Nat.tang, this Wiki Wiffle Bat for your patience and civility in the face of in the face of flames and personal attacks, and your work in encouraging dialogue afterwards with your attacker.

Userpage Vandals

Thanks for reverting my userpage and incrementing the vandalcounter!--AgentCDE / Talk / 03:32, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

No problemo, it was my pleasure. :D Nat.tang 03:34, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:ROC2

Template:ROC2 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — John Smith's 23:19, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:Toronto_Xtreme_Rugby.jpg

I have tagged Image:Toronto_Xtreme_Rugby.jpg as {{orphaned fairuse}}. In order for the image to be kept at Wikipedia, it must be included in at least one article. If this image is being used as a link target instead of displayed inline, please add {{not orphan}} to the image description page to prevent it being accidentally marked as orphaned again. MECU≈talk 00:16, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

CU

Regarding your edit here to archive TingMing's case, I think only clerks can archive that page, so your edit was reverted.--Jerry 21:30, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

sorry I didn't know that, I did it before and no one stopped me so...thanks for telling me. Nat Tang talk to me! | Check on my contributions!|Email Me! 23:42, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Traditional Chinese Chracters and the PRC

Please, provide an example of the article, where alternative scripts of the same language are used in the infobox. Cmapm 22:06, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Wait, there are romanizations, like pinyin in Chinese. Cmapm 22:20, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Heqong

Thanks for the tireless conversation with this guy. He seems so unreasonable, but I think he'll be blocked soon if the RfCU confirms his sock abuse.--Jerry 00:44, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Nat, you're not gonna get banned even if that IP user was you. Unless you used cuss words or something like that. Assuming bad faith once or twice is not gonna get you banned. Don't take Heqong's attacks seriously.--Jerry 01:10, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Actually I think I'm the one who's getting more attacks from Heqong. (Read the Taipei 101 section of his talkpage, you'll be amazed!)--Jerry 01:18, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism to my User Page and Talk Page

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing. Heqong 01:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Stop trying to harrass me. I am not harrass me. This is merely a good faith warning. Your continual attacks are not welcomed here on Wikpedia. Heqong 01:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

HEQONG READ THIS:

I clearly have seniority, in terms of time, being on Wikipedia, and although that does not automatically translate into knowing the policies better, I know that constantly placing warnings without substance is vandalism and harassment. And you have no right remove anything I myself or other have added as this is not your userpage. Nat Tang talk to me! | Check on my contributions!|Email Me! 01:33, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Your Caps and writing style has further given you away. Your attitude towards me also further gives you away. You are both that IP user and Nat.tang. Too bad. You have been warned. Heqong 02:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Your accusations have no substance, are baseless and your scare tactics do not work on me. Nat Tang talk to me! | Check on my contributions!|Email Me! 02:32, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Nat.tang, it was rather stupid of you to list your residence on Wikipedia. Someone can go ahead and track you easily now that everyone knows your IP. For your information, I have facts and concrete evidence to back up all my claims. You on the other hand are left out in the open and have nothing but frivolous words to defend for your outrageous lies and vandalism. Heqong 04:11, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

As I look into your history, I can see you've been banned before for peronal attacks. And that above is a personal attack. Which means you're a repeat offender. And this is long after the ArbCom told you not to attack editors. Nat Tang talk to me! | Check on my contributions!|Email Me! 04:37, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
And I list my place of residence because I am proud of my city, my province, and my country. And I am not afraid of facing and confronting editors like you who think they could get their way by attacking other editors. You have no right to do so and there will be consequences for your actions. You attempt to blacken my username, but that has failed. Over the months of active editing, I have gained the trust of my fellow editors, and they will stand by me because they know your motives are not for the betterment of Wikipedia and your actions prove it. So don't think you can push me around. Nat Tang talk to me! | Check on my contributions!|Email Me! 04:37, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

After much pondering, I have decided to rejoin Wikipedia as an good member of the community. My previous record is from so long ago that I would not pay attention to it. You are the one pushing me around. Again, you are twisting everything in your favor. That is highly inconsiderate of you. Heqong 04:40, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

However, that is not the case. You have returned and begun pushing your POV. My definition of a good member of the community is a person who compromises, who collaborates peacefully with other editors, who follows the conventions set (even if the convention is new), and a editor who does not make personal attacks. You, Heqong, however, has done the opposite, which means you did not change. You returned as a extreme POV pusher who has nothing better to do than changing everything without consensus. As superglue sticks to anything, your record stick with you. Nat Tang talk to me! | Check on my contributions!|Email Me! 04:48, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Your comments speak for themselves. They speak of your true character. You are trying to hurt and bully me around. You need to chill out and stop attacking me. I am shocked at your behavior. Stop immediately. Heqong 05:08, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

AIV report

I have removed your listing on WP:AIV since it is not a case of simple vandalism. I suggest you file a request for comment instead. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to assist you. -- Merope 04:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it looks pretty bloody obvious that the above is a sock of an indef blocked user. I suspect this won't take long. -- Merope 04:50, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Thank you! :D Nat Tang talk to me! | Check on my contributions!|Email Me! 04:53, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

So much for impartiality. A random user makes such an atrocious remark. I don't rule out taking action against that. Heqong 04:58, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm actually an administrator. And when you pretty much admit to being a blocked user, it's not hard to see how this case is going to end up. -- Merope 05:01, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
What are you talking about? I did not "pretty much" admit. I was referring to my past experiences with Ideogram, Nrtm81, and the like. We had a few previous disputes before I left Wikipedia. I did not interact with any of these users that I am having problems with now. You need to look at things from a more neutral perspective. Administrators cannot abuse their powers like what you are doing Heqong 05:04, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism to my User Page and Talk Page

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to PageName, you will be blocked from editing. Heqong 01:16, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Your checkuser case was decline, just to let you know.--Jerry 18:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Simple English

Hey I created WikiProject Taiwan on the Simple English Wikipedia. They are planning to delete it if no one other than myself joins the project. Can you create an account there and try to help me set up the project as well as creating Taiwan-related articles? You don't have to if you are too busy, I think I'll just set it up couple weeks later when I am more experienced.--Jerry 18:37, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Paul Sutherland

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that recently you carried out a copy from Paul Sutherland and paste. Please do not move articles by copying and pasting them because it splits the article's history, which is needed for attribution and is helpful in many other ways. If there is an article that you cannot move yourself using the move link at the top of the page, follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Also, if there are any other articles that you copied and pasted, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Thank you. 13:10, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Smile

†Sir James Paul† has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

13:11, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
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