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October 2009
Thanks!
I see it's been a while since you've edited Wikipedia, so I'm extra grateful that one of the first things you did was complete the GA nomination for the 2009 North Korean nuclear test article. Thanks again. Bsimmons666 (talk) 22:39, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- You're welcome. It really was my pleasure. Nezzadar (talk) 22:42, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Could you have another look at this? I've uploaded an edit. Shoemaker's Holiday Over 213 FCs served 11:40, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Deletion recommendation
I agree with your deletion recommendation [1] of Frankensteins of fraud. It does not seem to be a notable book. ReadQT (talk) 16:10, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, N
Your toolbbox warnings
Hi, I noticed your toolbox warnings. Please can you show me the policy about vulgar language? It might be a good idea to include a link to the policy. May I ask when you'd use those warnings? Would you use it if someone used swear words on their talk page? How about if they used swear words on an article talk page? Kind regards. NotAnIP83:149:66:11 (talk) 12:14, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thus far its for been used entirely been used when people replace the content of an article with swear words. As for the vulgarity clause, it's heavily implied by WP:CIVIL. Incivility consists of personal attacks, rudeness, and aggressive behaviours that disrupt the project and lead to unproductive stress and conflict. Maybe I'm misreading it, I didn't think so. Nezzadar (speak) 13:29, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, cool. Thanks for the reply. May I ask why the normal warnings for vandalism and page blanking are not suitable? Please don't think I'm having a go, I'm not! Kind Regards. NotAnIP83:149:66:11 (talk) 15:48, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- None were specific enough for my taste. I felt that if is was something as specific as racism or vulgarity, it deserved a specific warning. This serves two purposes. First it reinforces the policy to vandals. Second, it shows admins that the user has a pattern of highly inappropriate beheavior. This second point becomes important for blocking serial vandals. Nezzadar (speak) 17:23, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, cool. Thanks for the reply. May I ask why the normal warnings for vandalism and page blanking are not suitable? Please don't think I'm having a go, I'm not! Kind Regards. NotAnIP83:149:66:11 (talk) 15:48, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
This nonsense comes up every so often, and it gets deleted. I've reported the IP address to WP:ANI for edit warring. →Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 17:31, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah I'm sorry for the undo, I misread what what was going on. I put it back when I realized what was happening. On an unrelated matter, I hate Disney corp, but I love bunnies, so Bugs is a paradox for me. I'm leaning in the like category because of his impact on my childhood. He eh... _Nezzadar_☎_ 17:33, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Earlier this month you threatened action against this IP address for making unconstructive edits and edit-warring with other registered users. He's at it again.
Do you actually have the ability to block this user? He/she continues to make unconstructive edits to Victor Dominello and has been threatened with a block on numerous occasions (see talk page).
Would appreciate your help. Stalwart111 (talk) 03:59, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Go to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism, file the complaint there. I'm not an admin, so I can't do it. Also, it's not a good idea to go announcing the identity of a person on the IP page. Best do that on Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations with the admins there to read and then delete the info. Hope this helps _Nezzadar_☎_ 04:19, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. Yeah, I tried not to out-right reveal his ID (though it's pretty obvious); and no-one has named this person yet. Have since spoken to an admin who helped revert some of the vandalism / edits but will raise it with Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations if it cannot be resolved with him. Thanks for your prompt attention. Stalwart111 (talk) 04:24, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- You have inadvertently proved that common sense is not needed to become involved in the government. (Sadly, I am a poly-sci major...) _Nezzadar_☎_ 04:26, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'd be surprised if anyone needed proof of that, but I'm glad I could oblige. (And there's nothing sad about poly-sci (says the ex - poly-hist major... ha ha)). Stalwart111 (talk) 04:31, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm poly-sci and East Asian studies, so at least I have some wiggle room. No Nezzadar for Senate campaigns coming soon (although Nezzadar isn't my real name) _Nezzadar_☎_ 04:40, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Hey, why did you remove my editation? Was it because it didn't cite? Because I couldn't find where to do that so I just winged it and thought it might stick. But the basises I put up are the slogans for each school and you can cite all my info if you visit my school's Facebook or just look it up on our website. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SpringfieldHighWildcats (talk • contribs) 01:35, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, umm, I never deleted anything. I said you did nothing wrong. Look at the article's edit history to see who deleted stuff. But this brings some stuff up.
- You cannot use Facebook as a source.
- Please sign you posts. You do this with ~~~~.
Ok, thanks. ~~~~.
- Hope this helps. _Nezzadar_☎_ 01:41, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi Nezzadar
I am new here so please don't flame me.
I tried to add the page on moso bamboo and used material written by my employer Peter Yee with permission.
It looks like (and forgive me if I am wrong) that you redirected it to the bamboo page.
I see that there are several references to the previously deleted page so I am curious why the page had to be killed?
Thanks CapnRazor (talk) 20:40, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Hello there and welcome to Wikipedia. I did not "kill" the page. It can always be remade, however the page was on a subspecies of bamboo, and generally subspecies are not notable enough to get their own page. In this case, the determination was that there was not enough difference between Moso and Bamboo to warrant a new page. Instead, I encourage you to contribute about the Moso on the Bamboo page.
- Secondly, "Peter Yee" is not an encyclopedic source. Unless Yee is letting you use a book he authored, a journalistic article, or something else reliable and accessible to the rest of us, you can't site it.
- Also, please Assume Good Faith when talking to others. Assuming a person is going to flame you is not an assumption of good faith. While I may not be the best example of a good faith user, that does not mean you can assume that I assume bad faith. Confused? That could have been worded better, but I don't have the caffeine in my bloodstream to think about it. _Nezzadar_☎_ 22:27, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Hi Thanks for clearing that up :) CapnRazor (talk) 21:52, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah. Glad you understand. And hey, if you find enough, you can make a great article, it just takes some time in a library and some determination. Enjoy. _Nezzadar_☎_ 22:43, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Village People page duplication
Hi! I noticed that you'd done some work recently on the newly created "Cruisin' (song)" article, especially with the merging of the Cruisin' (Village People song) into that page. I'm not sure if you're aware or not but there's still an exact copy of the new Cruisin' article listed as Cruisin' rather than Cruisin' (album). Both articles seem identical. Obviously one of these pages needs to go but I think that Wallstreethotrod, who created the new Cruisin' (album) page, did so because he wanted to turn the original Cruisin' page into a disambiguation page. I have also notified Wallstreethotrod about this matter, so hopefully between the two of you, something will get sorted out. Failing that, I will nominate one of these articles for Speedy Deletion and let the administrators sort it out. Anyway, I just wanted to give you the heads-up in case you hadn't realised that this page had a duplicate. --Kohoutek1138 (talk) 00:12, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- That edit was from a long time ago and I was editing from RCP rather than interest in the subject. I defer to consensus, and will let you handle this without me. Thanks though. _Nezzadar_☎_ 00:15, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Re: your speedy tag
This [2] is incorrect. Thank you.--Blargh29 (talk) 04:39, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, care to explain? _Nezzadar_☎_ 04:41, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- 1)The target article does discuss the Bravo Group 2)It's not "malicious," and I don't appreciate that accusation. 3)If you think I did something wrong, let me know without tossing accusations around. Check out my edit history: I'm not a new user, spammer, or any of that. --Blargh29 (talk) 04:45, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, now I see. Thanks for the drive by posting, it really helps. A quick cut and paste of your edit summary might have been in order. As for group, now I see it. Your article didn't feature it well enough for me to catch it in my scan. I jumped the gun and am sorry. As for the redirect however, it still seems bad. Maybe because I am partial to not taking up common terms for redirects, or maybe for another reason. Eh. Whatever. _Nezzadar_☎_ 04:48, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I was attacking the redirect, not you. I still think it's a damn far leap of a redirect, especially since Bravo group is a military term as well. I removed the CSD, just so you know. _Nezzadar_☎_ 04:51, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- I am going to create an article on the Bravo Group lobbying firm in the future, but not yet, so I redirected the firm name to its principal. If you're concerned about this, look at the "what links here" to see User:Adraeus/companies, which has a list of advertising companies that need articles. Feel free to put a hatnote on Chris Bravacos if you feel that is appropriate. --Blargh29 (talk) 04:57, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Wonderful really. Create the article soon please. Also, you really need to flesh out the page that Bravo redirects to, it has very low EV. As a poly-sci person, I can conclusively say that lobbyists (the scum of the earth) are innumerable and tend not to be noteworthy until they get positions in high government offices as "consultants." Your guy might be a lower level mover, but is he encyclopedia worthy? _Nezzadar_☎_ 05:01, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- I am going to create an article on the Bravo Group lobbying firm in the future, but not yet, so I redirected the firm name to its principal. If you're concerned about this, look at the "what links here" to see User:Adraeus/companies, which has a list of advertising companies that need articles. Feel free to put a hatnote on Chris Bravacos if you feel that is appropriate. --Blargh29 (talk) 04:57, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I was attacking the redirect, not you. I still think it's a damn far leap of a redirect, especially since Bravo group is a military term as well. I removed the CSD, just so you know. _Nezzadar_☎_ 04:51, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, now I see. Thanks for the drive by posting, it really helps. A quick cut and paste of your edit summary might have been in order. As for group, now I see it. Your article didn't feature it well enough for me to catch it in my scan. I jumped the gun and am sorry. As for the redirect however, it still seems bad. Maybe because I am partial to not taking up common terms for redirects, or maybe for another reason. Eh. Whatever. _Nezzadar_☎_ 04:48, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- 1)The target article does discuss the Bravo Group 2)It's not "malicious," and I don't appreciate that accusation. 3)If you think I did something wrong, let me know without tossing accusations around. Check out my edit history: I'm not a new user, spammer, or any of that. --Blargh29 (talk) 04:45, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Hey, Thanks for the feedback. Edit uploaded as per your request here. --Muhammad(talk) 10:21, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- No prob. Gave my vote. Good luck and keep up the good work. _Nezzadar_☎_ 17:46, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Your signature
...is incredibly long. At 632 characters, it's about two and a half times what the software normally allows (WP:SIG). Such long signatures make it confusing while editing discussion pages where you've commented. Would you please consider shortening it? Equazcion (talk) 17:55, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- I really like it, and it isn't nearly as long on the signature section of "My preferences" which is likely why it makes the cut. Is there any way to force it to cooperate? _Nezzadar_☎_ 18:02, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- I know you like it, but it's kinda disruptive. I'm assuming it "makes the cut" because you have a transclusion or subt: in the actual preferences signature line, which circumvents the software's limit. I'll try to help cut your signature code down and retain the appearance, but theres no guarantee it can be done. For starters, what are the "if" statements in your signature for? Equazcion (talk) 18:08, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- No f--king clue. Hold on just a sec.
- I know you like it, but it's kinda disruptive. I'm assuming it "makes the cut" because you have a transclusion or subt: in the actual preferences signature line, which circumvents the software's limit. I'll try to help cut your signature code down and retain the appearance, but theres no guarantee it can be done. For starters, what are the "if" statements in your signature for? Equazcion (talk) 18:08, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
{{SUBST:fontcolor|Green|Green|_}}[[User:Nezzadar|{{SUBST:fontcolor|Lime|Green|'''Nezzadar'''}}]]{{SUBST:fontcolor|Green|Green|_}}[[User_talk:Nezzadar|{{SUBST:fontcolor|Gold|Green|☎}}]]{{SUBST:fontcolor|Green|Green|_}}
- This is what it is on my pref page. --N
- I could cut it down more if I could find a way that I didn't need to declare green/green for each of the three " _ "s. I wish spacebar worked here. --N
- I'll try and figure this out. I'll reply again when I do, or if I realize I can't :) Equazcion (talk) 18:17, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Don't you just hate it when you think you have a solution but it doesn't work. Removed the SUBST tags but the WP programs put them back in. --N 18:23, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, you're not allowed to use templates in your signature without substing them. I may have a solution, see User:Equazcion/sand. The code under the "new" heading is only 200 characters, well below the limit, and looks about the same. Equazcion (talk) 18:26, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Says "Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags." --N 18:28, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Try this:
{{subst:User:Nezzadar/s}}
Equazcion (talk) 18:30, 18 October 2009 (UTC)- It works. Blasphemy... You are so getting a barnstar for this. Nezzadar ☎ 18:34, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Ha, no problem :) Glad I could help. Equazcion (talk) 18:39, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- It works. Blasphemy... You are so getting a barnstar for this. Nezzadar ☎ 18:34, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Try this:
- Says "Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags." --N 18:28, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, you're not allowed to use templates in your signature without substing them. I may have a solution, see User:Equazcion/sand. The code under the "new" heading is only 200 characters, well below the limit, and looks about the same. Equazcion (talk) 18:26, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Don't you just hate it when you think you have a solution but it doesn't work. Removed the SUBST tags but the WP programs put them back in. --N 18:23, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'll try and figure this out. I'll reply again when I do, or if I realize I can't :) Equazcion (talk) 18:17, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Restless Soul
I am in no way affiliated with it or them. Hence it's a stub for someone else to expand. Isn't that what they are for, quick additions missing from site that at a later date, anytime in the future, get expanded upon. Jimthing (talk) 04:59, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yes but really, you started it. Don't you feel guilty that it is due to wither and die due to a lack of encyclopedic content. Much like a flower needs water, an article needs constructive edits. Otherwise it will die. He eh. Nezzadar ☎ 05:01, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Alternate solution
See Wikipedia_talk:Featured_picture_candidates#Featured_picture_display. Durova331 05:21, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for including me in this. You have no idea how much it means to me. I'm no pro photographer, but this goes a long way to reinforce my decision to make the FP section my home in Wikipedia. So much good work to do there. Nezzadar ☎ 17:47, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- (replying to your post at my user talk) Aw, thanks I guess. You think I'm nice? rubs hands greedily with an evil cackle Seriously though, if you're interested in the area it'd be much better to take up an specialty" and get good at it than to strive to become a "power player", whatever that is. I'd be glad to coach restoration if that interests you. Durova331 19:40, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Power players are the people that are influential in a subject. I.E. generally you are seen as experts in the wikifield. I don't want control, rather some weight to my voice. You four have the place cornered, and I want in. I don't think I have the tools, specifically the patience, to restore photos, but I have a damn good camera that defaults to taking 3000 x 4000 pixel shots. I also love photos. Oh, and I know you're evil. That's why I like you. Nezzadar ☎ 20:30, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well, it's generally best to approach the wiki in terms of getting familiar, figuring out what needs doing, and then finding ways to get it done. So settle in and experiment until you find your niche. And by the way, some restorations are simpler than others. It can be done in GIMP which is a free program, and I coach and conominate with beginners. The first one is free. After that you have to pay...cackle Durova331 20:53, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- I use the program Paint.NET for all my image editing needs. Never heard of GIMP, well at least your use of the term GIMP. Details? Nezzadar ☎ 20:56, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- GIMP. Stands for Gnu Image Manipulation Program. Durova331 21:27, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- I see. I'll check it out when I have the time. Thanks. Nezzadar ☎ 21:30, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- GIMP. Stands for Gnu Image Manipulation Program. Durova331 21:27, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- I use the program Paint.NET for all my image editing needs. Never heard of GIMP, well at least your use of the term GIMP. Details? Nezzadar ☎ 20:56, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Well, it's generally best to approach the wiki in terms of getting familiar, figuring out what needs doing, and then finding ways to get it done. So settle in and experiment until you find your niche. And by the way, some restorations are simpler than others. It can be done in GIMP which is a free program, and I coach and conominate with beginners. The first one is free. After that you have to pay...cackle Durova331 20:53, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Power players are the people that are influential in a subject. I.E. generally you are seen as experts in the wikifield. I don't want control, rather some weight to my voice. You four have the place cornered, and I want in. I don't think I have the tools, specifically the patience, to restore photos, but I have a damn good camera that defaults to taking 3000 x 4000 pixel shots. I also love photos. Oh, and I know you're evil. That's why I like you. Nezzadar ☎ 20:30, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- (replying to your post at my user talk) Aw, thanks I guess. You think I'm nice? rubs hands greedily with an evil cackle Seriously though, if you're interested in the area it'd be much better to take up an specialty" and get good at it than to strive to become a "power player", whatever that is. I'd be glad to coach restoration if that interests you. Durova331 19:40, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
FPs
I'm not feeling very well today. I'd be happy to help, but can you remind me tomorrow? Shoemaker's Holiday Over 213 FCs served 17:56, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah sure. Feel better. I'm not feeling that great either, just got out of a midterm. Pounded it, but it was an hour and a half of solid writing. Nezzadar ☎ 17:57, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Re Mentorship?
Hi Nezzadar, I see you have posted this request on a few pages. Makeemlighter provides some good suggestions. Like Durova I was also interested in your use of the term 'power player' - I guess your response to her that it's '...the people that are influential in a subject' makes sense though.
I don't really have that much time for mentoring, but am willing to help out if you have any questions.
As Makeem suggested though it's best to hold off on taking on closing for a while. I've been around for some years now, but it would probably have been over a year before I ever took on closing, and then took it pretty slowly, a few not promoteds, etc, gradually worked up to it. Doing those first full promotions is intimidating!
If you want to become a power player, then your best bet is to get yourself respected by making your opinions on 'votes' meaningful. Don't get too overzealous about things for starters, just take a measured approach. Get involved, but don't necessarily try to be involved in everything. Try to make some good nominations and contributions (photos/edits/restorations) if possible. But again, take it slow - don't try to do too much too soon.
Perhaps I should keep a talk section on your page open to drop you suggestions when I see something. I have a few things to add atm. It may end up getting annoying for you though, but you did ask... :-)
Cheers, --jjron (talk) 07:06, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
FPC Suggestion Section
Mind if I use this section to drop some FPC suggestions...? --jjron (talk) 07:09, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
- 1. Avoid this. You should not close a nomination you have voted on or been significantly involved in in any way. It's a potential Conflict of interest. OK, this one isn't exactly controversial, but it's not a good look. That's why regular closers often avoid voting, as someone 'neutral' needs to be able to close it. --jjron (talk) 07:12, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
- 2. While on that nomination ensure you vote using standard conventions. Support and Oppose are standard. You can 'moderate' your vote by using Strong or Weak. Use of Comment or Question is also quite accepted. However FAILS CRITERIA as a vote is not a convention. Firstly the wording is wrong, secondly use of capitals is considered shouting in Netiquette. Consider the Golden rule - would you like someone else to post that as a vote on your nomination? --jjron (talk) 07:17, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
- 3. Do not bite the newbies. See Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Biological cell.svg. While perhaps not new to WP itself, AFAIK blurpeace is new to FPC, at best he's irregular. Regardless, your response is a little bitey (e.g., you "angrily disagree"), and certainly so if he is a newbie - if so, he would be unlikely to come back. --jjron (talk) 07:31, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about that. I guess I was a bit overzealous. Here's what I was trying to do.
- On 1 and 2. I saw that there were several recent closes that were "speedy closed" for the same reason as this "obviously fails criteria." Figured I could. I specificly avoided closing anything else, the only other thing I have closed was a submission I withdrew.
- On 3. Between you and me, I really wanted to chew him out totally. The "angrily" was a representation of that. Also, this is entirely my fault, I saw the bold text and the "blu" and mentally jumped to BlueCapsian, whos sig looks the same and is not at all an irregular, and would know better. I will go make amends. Thanks.
The FPC nom you closed
I checked over it and corrected two things. First, you didn't need to use the italics at Wikipedia:Goings-on. The previous few had them because those were species names. Second, you forgot to add the image to one of the FP subpages. I added it to Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/History/War. Other than that, it looks good. Makeemlighter (talk) 03:24, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks! Nezzadar ☎ 03:27, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Blood values image
It might not have been very clearly stated in the the delisting discussion, but it is the File:Blood values sorted by mass and molar concentration.png that should now be featured, and File:Reference ranges for blood tests - by mass.png not. I hope it's not too hard to change. Mikael Häggström (talk) 04:45, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm confused. Do you mean un-featured? Nezzadar ☎ 04:47, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- I think I fixed it all. You delisted (i.e. un-featured) the wrong image. Everything should be fine now. Makeemlighter (talk) 05:56, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- Looks all fine! Thanks. Mikael Häggström (talk) 13:28, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- I believe as we've said a few times, perhaps hold off on closing anything at FPC for a while... BTW I assume you've changed your mind on the 'mentoring' now. --jjron (talk) 07:33, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- 1. I have to learn somehow, and
- 2. None of you rushed to volunteer. You gave suggestions and I did the best I could, but that only goes so far.
- Nezzadar ☎ 13:27, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- I think I fixed it all. You delisted (i.e. un-featured) the wrong image. Everything should be fine now. Makeemlighter (talk) 05:56, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Featured Pictures
Right! Sorry about the delay.
The first thing to do is probably to spend another month voting on images, stating your reasons, and listening to any feedback. This will help you get used to the norms of the Featured picture process. A second thing that may be helpful is to go to, say, commons:COM:FPC, watch for images you like, and nominate them here, after putting them in articles. It's not image creation, but it'll at least give you some idea of the nomination process.
Learning to make minor edits would also help. I'd be happy to collaborate on a fairly easy restoration with you.
You may also want to consider WP:Featured sound candidates, which has literally hundreds of files at Commons perfectly suited to promotion, but which have never been nominated. I do a lot of the work there, and another participant and closer would help a lot. it's a bit different from FPC - the closing procedure is MUCH simpler - but it's under-staffed so you could easily step into a major role more quickly. ` Shoemaker's Holiday Over 213 FCs served 17:37, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
Featured sounds
Wikipedia:Featured_sound_candidates/Comrades_of_the_Legion is a pretty clear result. Want to try promoting it? Shoemaker's Holiday Over 213 FCs served 23:24, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- Nope, I voted on that one. Someone else who isn't involved should have the honors, unless of course, the COI rules are lowered on FS. Thanks though. Nezzadar ☎ 23:27, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- Oops, missed that. Ride of the Valkyries (Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/Ride of the Valkyries), then? Wasn't going to suggest one of mine, but, well... Shoemaker's Holiday Over 213 FCs served 23:55, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'd also be willing to check Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Concretions_on_Bowling_Balls_Beach if you wanted to close it. Shoemaker's Holiday Over 213 FCs served 00:02, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
- I can't make heads or tails about which version of that beach shot gets what. I'll take you up on the valk. sound one though. It's not COI if you suggest I close it, so long as its clear as hell consensus. Nezzadar ☎ 03:12, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Nomination of one of my SVGs
I saw you nominated and withdrew a SVG of mines. If you are interested, I have an SVG diagram coming up in the future. You may co-nom with me when it's done. Sounds cool? ZooFari 00:47, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
- It's your work, you can nominate it. I was just on the lookout for illustrations that have slipped under the radar. It seems Durova has much more skill in finding and restoring pictures, but Illustrations have seemed less often nominated, so I figured "hey, that's my new job." Thanks for the offer, but for now I am going to go searching illustration archives. You know where they are? Nezzadar ☎ 03:15, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Trout dishes
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Baked_Trout_with_dill.jpg/100px-Baked_Trout_with_dill.jpg)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/Korean_cuisine-Hoe-Songeohoe-01.jpg/100px-Korean_cuisine-Hoe-Songeohoe-01.jpg)
Thank you for the effort to reduce the drama level, so I've brought these yummy trout dishes for you. I just do not like my comments are ridiculed by the two people because I have a different view from them. I wish we can peacefully comment about the topics, but well.. things were out of hand. I honestly said my interpretation on the picture, but partly that is because I believe you and xager..m (don't remember his name) insinuated the "uneasiness" over the picture. I stand by my view, but for the next time, I would not choose to respond to them if they badge me again. Anyway, the trouting is one of the most bizzar and funnies Wiki cultures, I think. Have a nice day/afternoon/night/--Caspian blue 03:45, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
- Glad you took the trout in stride. I find humor the best way to end a fight, so I believe heavily in it. I know I wasn't innocent, and I apologize for my part. Here's to wet fish and friendship! Nezzadar ☎ 03:48, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Trouting
It kind of lowers the tone of discussion to trout people within a featured content discussion. Would you consider returning that trout to the fishery? Durova333 19:07, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
- I thought it was necessary, considering how the conversation was deteriorating rapidly. I could downgrade to a minnow if it's really necessary. Nezzadar ☎ 19:47, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Caolan Harkin
Cheers for that. I didn't realise it was the creator blanking it. Tresiden (talk) 22:53, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thought as much. No problem. Nezzadar ☎ 22:53, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
FPC closings
I can appreciate your wanting to close noms; it's not a very glorified job. Just don't close any that you vote in; that's a big no-no. I'm thinking specifically of this (even if it's a no-promote that you supported). upstateNYer 04:04, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
- I know that there is COI for closing articles I voted in, but really, I thought no one would mind if I were closing something that I voted the opposite for the result I was closing to. this can be worded better, I'm sure. Sorry then. Live and learn. Nezzadar ☎ 16:14, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
I've uploaded an edit to fix some problems. Can you review? Shoemaker's Holiday Over 214 FCs served 16:48, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
I've uploaded a version which has what I feel are more realistic colours for a graphite drawing. Can you review? Shoemaker's Holiday Over 214 FCs served 16:53, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
I've done an edit to this, which I'd also appreciate you looking at. Shoemaker's Holiday Over 214 FCs served 17:26, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Idea
Got an idea for you. Some of the US Government websites contain encyclopedic images that don't need any editing, and a few of those are FP-worthy. It can be interesting to comb archives for that sort of material. Would you be interested in that? Durova333 21:47, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
- Why not. When I'm done with midterms (I.E. Tuesday) I'll start that. Nezzadar ☎ 22:00, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
- Here's one place to start. Their notion of 'featured' is a bit different from ours, but they're constantly adding more material.[3] The National Institutes of Health and NASA are also good places to search, although with the latter it's best to read the fine print because some of the material isn't public domain (sometimes due to partnerships with other countries' space agencies). Durova333 00:05, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'd echo Durova's sentiment, but more broadly. You can also look for CC-BY/CC-BY-SA content on flickr, or start contributing some of your own work in the form of photographs. Even if you don't expect to take featured pictures some decent photos of notable sites in your local area is always useful. In my opinion there are enough people closing and the additional votes are valuable at this point (don't let that stop you learning how). Noodle snacks (talk) 09:34, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
- Right. I'll still close the ones that I blatantly am uninterested in, like that postcard with the mountains and the horse. That will give me a balance of both voting and closing. In the mean time, there are plenty of better photographers, and I won't have access to my tripod until Thanksgiving. My best photos, however, I don't intend on releasing to Wikipedia, as that will restrict my ability to use them later for personal gain, and I really don't trust humanity at large, so the fewer places the file is, the better. Nezzadar ☎ 16:20, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
- You might be surprised. I've made quite a reasonable amount from sending nasty legal letters to commercial entities that have used my images without any respect for the licence conditions (no attribution or anything). I think you'd find that you would be hard pressed to make money with photography online anyway, unless you want to shoot content suitable for stock photography (yawn). Noodle snacks (talk) 22:44, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm thinking of one particular photo that I am going to have printed and hung somewhere, it is my prize photo and I would hate to lose control of it. Thanks for the advice, and I will eventually be uploading photos to Wikipedia, but right now, I don't have the time. Nezzadar ☎ 23:04, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
- NS, you yawn at stock photography but I've made quite a bit from it as well, mainly with photos also on Wikipedia. The real pain is the amount of time spent removing all possible commercial violations and identifying faces, uploading it, cataloging it, re-submitting it when they reject it for arbitrary things like "oversharpening", when it's simply sharp from downsampling, etc etc. Still, once online, the money trickles in with minimal additional work. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 13:01, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- You might be surprised. I've made quite a reasonable amount from sending nasty legal letters to commercial entities that have used my images without any respect for the licence conditions (no attribution or anything). I think you'd find that you would be hard pressed to make money with photography online anyway, unless you want to shoot content suitable for stock photography (yawn). Noodle snacks (talk) 22:44, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
- Right. I'll still close the ones that I blatantly am uninterested in, like that postcard with the mountains and the horse. That will give me a balance of both voting and closing. In the mean time, there are plenty of better photographers, and I won't have access to my tripod until Thanksgiving. My best photos, however, I don't intend on releasing to Wikipedia, as that will restrict my ability to use them later for personal gain, and I really don't trust humanity at large, so the fewer places the file is, the better. Nezzadar ☎ 16:20, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'd echo Durova's sentiment, but more broadly. You can also look for CC-BY/CC-BY-SA content on flickr, or start contributing some of your own work in the form of photographs. Even if you don't expect to take featured pictures some decent photos of notable sites in your local area is always useful. In my opinion there are enough people closing and the additional votes are valuable at this point (don't let that stop you learning how). Noodle snacks (talk) 09:34, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
- Here's one place to start. Their notion of 'featured' is a bit different from ours, but they're constantly adding more material.[3] The National Institutes of Health and NASA are also good places to search, although with the latter it's best to read the fine print because some of the material isn't public domain (sometimes due to partnerships with other countries' space agencies). Durova333 00:05, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Signature
Hi Nezzadar, your signature really gives me a headache (yellow and fluorescent green gives me a headache). Since you are commenting so extensively at FPC, I wonder if you would consider changing it. Mostlyharmless (talk) 06:02, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I agree. I'm not quite as sensitive as above, but it's unnecessarily bold and distracts from the flow of text. A bit of colour is okay, but a solid block of green in the sig doesn't really suit the format on Wiki IMO. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 13:07, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- It will be taken under consideration. Give me time to develop something I like. Nezzadar ☎ 14:35, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
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- Slightly better, but not 'good'. ;-) I think that you'd ideally have to lose the background green to make it appropriately subtle. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 16:25, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- I've seen enough sigs to believe that my sig isn't out of the ordinary. Besides, I change my sig every month anyways. Nezzadar ☎ 16:27, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- True, there are other sigs with solid backgrounds, but that doesn't make them tasteful or, as I said, appropriately subtle. Oh well, your choice. Poor Mostlyharmless will suffer headaches as a result though. ;-P Ðiliff «» (Talk) 16:47, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- By the way, that reminded me - I noticed that you've pretty much sprung into the scene seemingly out of nowhere, full of energy and opinion. I was just wondering if you had been using a different account previously, or whether your contributions to Wikipedia are really as they seem... Ðiliff «» (Talk) 16:59, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- Perhaps telling you this will have negitive repurcussions, but it is indeed how it seems. In 2006 when I joined I was chased out by a pair of admins who forever poisoned my opinion of the admins. These people were vulgar, bit hard and often, and contacted me primarily off of Wikipedia how they got my email I will never know) so there is little record. I left for two years out of disgust. Now I have come back with a vengeance, mainly because I see work to be done and no one else doing it. (Take the mess of that northeastern list that I fixed). Again, I am running into admins that I disagree with, and believe make horrible decisions, but so far none of them have outright attacked me, so I will stay, for now. Nezzadar ☎ 17:17, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- Fair enough. It does sound like you've let your emotions dictate your behaviour on occasion, and while I'm not one to judge, it might be something that you need to temper given a few of the recent disagreements that you've been involved in. Clearly you have been a busy bee. Slow and steady wins the race though. ;-) Ðiliff «» (Talk) 17:26, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- In case you haven't noticed the war between Shoe and Durova, I am not the only edior in FP with strong emotions :) Thanks for the advice though. Nezzadar ☎ 17:39, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- I have noticed. ;-) That's a different kettle of fish. An old, smelly one. Have a look through the FPC talk archives and you'll find other examples where Shoe and others have blown their top and subsequently chastised by the community... Just because others do it, it doesn't make the behaviour any more acceptable though. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 11:27, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- Agree with comments on sig, as I have indicated on a previous occasion (see my talkpage). Please tone it down - at FPC it can impact on evaluation of the images. --jjron (talk) 13:19, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- I have noticed. ;-) That's a different kettle of fish. An old, smelly one. Have a look through the FPC talk archives and you'll find other examples where Shoe and others have blown their top and subsequently chastised by the community... Just because others do it, it doesn't make the behaviour any more acceptable though. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 11:27, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- In case you haven't noticed the war between Shoe and Durova, I am not the only edior in FP with strong emotions :) Thanks for the advice though. Nezzadar ☎ 17:39, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- Fair enough. It does sound like you've let your emotions dictate your behaviour on occasion, and while I'm not one to judge, it might be something that you need to temper given a few of the recent disagreements that you've been involved in. Clearly you have been a busy bee. Slow and steady wins the race though. ;-) Ðiliff «» (Talk) 17:26, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
- Perhaps telling you this will have negitive repurcussions, but it is indeed how it seems. In 2006 when I joined I was chased out by a pair of admins who forever poisoned my opinion of the admins. These people were vulgar, bit hard and often, and contacted me primarily off of Wikipedia how they got my email I will never know) so there is little record. I left for two years out of disgust. Now I have come back with a vengeance, mainly because I see work to be done and no one else doing it. (Take the mess of that northeastern list that I fixed). Again, I am running into admins that I disagree with, and believe make horrible decisions, but so far none of them have outright attacked me, so I will stay, for now. Nezzadar ☎ 17:17, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks!
A) Thanks for the notice! B) Moreover, thanks for the -hilarious- notice! Ginsengbomb (talk) 16:24, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
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Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Circulatory System en.svg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. jjron (talk) 13:18, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
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Did I forget to thank you? ..
- You are welcome. May your mop always smell of fresh lemons. Nezzadar ☎ 21:36, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Your comments
- I think I have helped SH understand what the policy is on OS, and we have agreed to strike/remove parts of our respective conversations. Durova concurred (obviously) with what occurred, so if anything, I think that particular issue between them has been mollified to an extent. The non-OS portion of their dispute should be handled through normal channels.
- The status box may be found here User:Hersfold/StatusTemplate.
Thanks. -- Avi (talk) 05:13, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
FPC
Thanks for your comments, really appreciated. If only we had users like u since the beginning of this project. FWIW, all the users who voted in the nom are all newbies. Surprising, isn't it? --Muhammad(talk) 10:28, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Are you being sarcastic or serious. Are you calling me a newbie or complementing me. I honestly cannot tell. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 19:12, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- I think you'll find that he's being sarcastic. You did, after all, tell one of our most prolific, talented, level-headed, reasonable, and patient FP contributors to "grow up". I'm not here to comment on that, only giving you a hint as to the likely tone of Muhammad's comments. Maedin\talk 19:29, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Right. uw-npa2 it is. Please see "On New Conversations" #4. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 21:34, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- I took the liberty of removing the template from Muhammad's talk page. I'm not just being difficult, but reminding you of some basic courtesies: "don't template the regulars" being the first and the other is a rather puerile sounding, "you started it". I have read Muhammad's comments again at the nomination and note that he didn't make any personal remarks, but that your remarks were. Time to let this one go,
Maedin\talk 07:45, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Whoever started it, it was wrong of me to lose my cool and I sincerely apologize. I hope you find this nomination to your satisfaction. Thanks Maedin :) --Muhammad(talk) 17:00, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yes thanks Maedin, and sorry Muhammad. I am not known for levelheadedness, and at least 51% of this was my bad. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 21:24, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- Whoever started it, it was wrong of me to lose my cool and I sincerely apologize. I hope you find this nomination to your satisfaction. Thanks Maedin :) --Muhammad(talk) 17:00, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- I took the liberty of removing the template from Muhammad's talk page. I'm not just being difficult, but reminding you of some basic courtesies: "don't template the regulars" being the first and the other is a rather puerile sounding, "you started it". I have read Muhammad's comments again at the nomination and note that he didn't make any personal remarks, but that your remarks were. Time to let this one go,
- Right. uw-npa2 it is. Please see "On New Conversations" #4. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 21:34, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- I think you'll find that he's being sarcastic. You did, after all, tell one of our most prolific, talented, level-headed, reasonable, and patient FP contributors to "grow up". I'm not here to comment on that, only giving you a hint as to the likely tone of Muhammad's comments. Maedin\talk 19:29, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
November 2009
User warning templates
I note on ANI that you say you have trouble remembering the templates. They are all at WP:WARN, just open the link in a new page or tab when you need it. Alternatively, you could add that as a link on your user page. Mjroots (talk) 18:40, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- I already use that, but it is more cumbersome. Thanks though. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 18:41, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks for giving me the excuse to close a thread at the drama boards. Hope you get Twinkle back soon. ϢereSpielChequers 19:07, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- Ironicly, while I am a trained bartender, I cannot legally drink, and have an exceedingly low opinion of alcohol. Thanks though, I'll go get Hesperian drunk and have a heart to heart with his soul. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 19:09, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- Well in your case it's presumably an alcohol free beer - as the smallprint says Alcoholic strength varies according to age, religion and geographic location - one of the wonders of a digital product. I bet your regular bartending drinks can't be that flexible. ϢereSpielChequers 19:14, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- Oh they can... always tip your bartender well... Nezzadar [SPEAK] 19:15, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- Bartenders too young to drink, and expecting tips! Some things are very different on your side of the pond. ϢereSpielChequers 19:27, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
- Oh they can... always tip your bartender well... Nezzadar [SPEAK] 19:15, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
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Rollback
Hi. I've added the flag for you. PLease remember to only use the tool for blatant and obvoius vandalism. Please fully review WP:ROLLBACK and ask me if you need any help. Pedro : Chat 12:54, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Three pillars of the European Union
What is the advantage of keeping the big triangle in Three pillars of the European Union? All it does is make me scroll an extra screen before getting to the content. I would have trimmed it to 5 rows but I couldn't see exactly which piece of the table and nested divs would do it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.170.128.65 (talk) 17:29, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- The triangle is quite small, and does not create an eyesore, however it is part of the standard EU imagery, and appears elsewhere in similar form, therefore it has high EV. If you had an objection, it should have been raised in the talk page for Three pillars of the European Union. Honestly, the whole thing seems silly. If it "looks neat" and does not create a problem, why can it? Nezzadar [SPEAK] 17:33, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- Ah - I see. I was using IE6, where the triangle is a screenful rather than ~4 lines (Firefox). In IE6 it is a serious impediment to the article. Note I didn't say "looks neat"; I said "neat HTML." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.170.128.65 (talk) 17:37, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm, I see your point. I am going to see if someone at the image labs can turn this into a straight up image, as I can see where this is a problem. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 18:15, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks very much! That would be very helpful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.170.128.65 (talk) 18:20, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- Right. Gave it to ZooFari, my go-to man for image issues. If anyone I know can help, it's him. Also, please sign your posts, using four tildes. (like this ~~~~)
- Thanks very much! That would be very helpful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.170.128.65 (talk) 18:20, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm, I see your point. I am going to see if someone at the image labs can turn this into a straight up image, as I can see where this is a problem. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 18:15, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- Ah - I see. I was using IE6, where the triangle is a screenful rather than ~4 lines (Firefox). In IE6 it is a serious impediment to the article. Note I didn't say "looks neat"; I said "neat HTML." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.170.128.65 (talk) 17:37, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Re Rabbit of Appreciation
Hehe. Thanks! My pleasure! --NorwegianBlue talk 19:38, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
This is going somewhere special.
My best report yet:
12.88.212.58 serial vandal responded to my reverting of his edit with a wonderful comment on how I apparently do sexually inappropriate things to babies while I am on fire. Please block him. Thanks. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 19:41, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not an admin, so I'll just keep rollbacking until Huggle makes a report at WP:AIV. --NorwegianBlue talk 19:45, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- That was my report to AIV. I was telling you because it is the funniest one I have filed to date. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 19:47, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, got it, and sorry about inappropriate warning that landed on your page instead of vandal's due to ec. --NorwegianBlue talk 19:53, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- Don't worry, it was hilarious. I don't mind being warned that I am vandalizing myself, I feel that way after every haircut I get too... My beautiful jewfro... Nezzadar [SPEAK] 19:56, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, got it, and sorry about inappropriate warning that landed on your page instead of vandal's due to ec. --NorwegianBlue talk 19:53, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- That was my report to AIV. I was telling you because it is the funniest one I have filed to date. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 19:47, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
FPC Archive
Hi Nezzadar,
Re this edit in the FPC archive I have reordered the noms and reworded the header instruction you added. They are meant to go to the bottom.
Sorry, I think you picked up what I had done and adjusted accordingly, but I was very tired and did it back to front (just copied what I did in the "Recently closed" section, which is adding them to the top). So my error. Just thought I'd let you know of the change and so you'd know they should go to the bottom in the archive. --jjron (talk) 06:37, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. -N
Commenting about a FPC that you closed having voted for it!!
Hello! In that picture you voted, and yet you closed it. And I wanted to ask you: Why it may not be right? I mean, even if you gave a support or opposed vote, a closure is but a closure right? so it doesn´t really matter who closes it as long as that user doesn´t break a rule like ignoring the consensus or something. I mean, why many people consider it like as a sin? - ☩Damërung ☩. -- 08:51, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- There's a potential Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Sure there's no rule as such at FPC to say you can't close something you've created/nominated/voted on, but over the last few years it's generally become accepted that it's not good practice to do so. There has been a few cases where a conflict of interest has been apparent. In general, if there's no reason for an active participant to close it (e.g., a complete lack of any other closers) then they should leave it up to an uninvolved party. --jjron (talk) 11:31, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, hence the message. I am trying to get good at closing, yet also want to vote, so I fiugred "Is neutral really a vote?" and the community has declared "yup." I won't close in this type of case again. Next time I push the bounds, it will be for something I commented on but did not vote on. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 15:44, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
I did not upload the file; I only tagged it for deletion. See [4]. I am pretty sure that the uploader does not own copyright as it appears to be taken from some photo gallery. Regards.-The EnforcerOffice of the secret service 04:15, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- I am sorry about that. When I added the CSD it tagged you for the warning for some reason, and so I explained the situation to you. Go ahead an kill the message on your page. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 04:19, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, but then I was not the one who uploaded the file, right. Anyway, no probs :-). Bye.-The EnforcerOffice of the secret service 04:24, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- Huggle isn't perfect apparently. Ah well. Bye. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 04:29, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, but then I was not the one who uploaded the file, right. Anyway, no probs :-). Bye.-The EnforcerOffice of the secret service 04:24, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Neko in Second Life Culture
Forgive me for being so new. I tried to include Neko as one of the subcultures of Second Life, and noticed you removed it. With respect, I believe this addition is warranted. For example, here's one of Torley Linden's many comments regarding Neko of Second Life (e.g., "But where are all the neko? It just isn't a comprehensive virtual world without them. :(" - Torley here: [[5]]. Second Life Neko are currently being studied by a researcher at the Blekinge Institute of Technology in Sweden, due to their significance in virtual world communities: [[6]] Neko are listed as one of the four primary species of Second Life, as cited in the Mindmeister map by Botgirl Questi here: [[7]]. Lastly, given that Neko are considered an entirely different species than furry (by both furries and Nekos), it would seem that deleting Neko from the list of subcultures in Second Life may not be presenting a full story? Thanks kindly, Allison - 71.231.205.238 (talk) 06:15, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- Honestly, the reason I deleted that was because I was under the impression that it was being inserted as a name, not as the theriantropic fetish that you linked to. Next time, to avoid this, add a citation or explain that Neko is a catgirl based subcluture in the edit summary. This will avoid the confusion. Sorry about that. I won't judge you about the Neko thing, although I find it puzzling. Go ahead and put it back in, heck elaborate about it, use the sources you listed here. It is a valid contribution.
- Also, consider creating a username, as bias tends to view users as more trustworthy than IPs, and you can get credit for your work.
- Sorry for all the trouble. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 06:23, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- More puzzling than a furry, a tiny, a dragon, a robot, a....? (grin). Thanks very much; feel free to reformat to make it look better. I'll be sure to register when I get back home to my *real* computer. I'm just happy I was able to find all the little codes to indent my reply! :-) - Allison - 71.231.205.238 (talk) 06:46, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- Any idea why an XLinkBot wants to delete that reference to the Swedish researcher's site? - Allison - 71.231.205.238 (talk) 06:57, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- See User:XLinkBot to see what the bot does. Considering that the link isn't blacklisted, it is likely a false positive. Put the link back in again and it shouldn't remove it again. If it does, contact an admin at WP:BON or WP:ANI. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 07:02, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- You were right, the 2nd insertion held just fine... but maybe you feel it's better to wait a bit? Signed, (the annoying) Allison :-) 71.231.205.238 (talk) 07:24, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- Seriously, I'd go for an account, you are doing good work. Get credit for it. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 19:39, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- You were right, the 2nd insertion held just fine... but maybe you feel it's better to wait a bit? Signed, (the annoying) Allison :-) 71.231.205.238 (talk) 07:24, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- See User:XLinkBot to see what the bot does. Considering that the link isn't blacklisted, it is likely a false positive. Put the link back in again and it shouldn't remove it again. If it does, contact an admin at WP:BON or WP:ANI. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 07:02, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- Any idea why an XLinkBot wants to delete that reference to the Swedish researcher's site? - Allison - 71.231.205.238 (talk) 06:57, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Take a second look at this FP nomination, the quality is due to the rules of the Mosque, cameras are forbidden so any images inside are mostly cell phone images or cheap cameras people are not afraid to have confiscated. Technical quality issues should be ignored in such situations where the best we can get is going to be poor quality images do to restrictions. — raeky (talk | edits) 00:22, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
- Reaffirm Oppose after Request to Reconsider by Raeky I am well aware of the issues, but that is the Mosque's fault, and with all due respect to the faith, if they ban cameras, they aren't going to get good photos, its their own fault. The photo has a host of problems, the blurriness being the least of them, and as I said, all of them are listed in the failed 2006 nomination. My vote stands. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 00:26, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Talkback
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For Myself
Self, thank you for reverting vandalism on my userspace!
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Much like rabbits, vandals occur in large numbers and are considered by some to be a nuisance. However while rabbits are cute, vandals are not. For defending my user page from a vandal, and possibly also blocking said vandal, I give you "Nezzadar's Rabbit of Appreciation". Take this random award featuring an image of an adorable mammal, and let it be a sign to others that you fight the good fight. From your completely insane friend, Nezzadar ☎ . |
Civility
Dear Nezzadar, I believe that your recent behaviour is considerably outside what Wikipedia expects in terms of civility, and what we have accepted at FPC. There is the expression of an opinion, and then there is out and out rudeness. I ask you to consider your behaviour and change it. Mostlyharmless (talk) 00:55, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, yeah, whatever. I am getting tired of the way FPC is handled. The rules are ignored or followed as it suits the opinions of the voters, and therefore good images get shot down for not having "WOW" which is not a criteria, and bad images get promoted despite being of poor quality. I thought that focusing on illustrations would keep me away from the subjective bullshit, but I keep getting dragged back into this. Perhaps Wikipedia is not a place for me, considering that it repeatedly confirms my astronomically low view of human intelligence. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 01:08, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
- If human intelligence is astronomically low, you'll have to deal with that wherever you go. Just saying. When I get frustrated with people, I've learned to find it satisfying to remain infuriatingly calm and indifferent in response to them, no matter how hard they've tried to hit the ball to me. Nothing is more defeating than an unrequited provocation. PS. I haven't looked at the particular comments being discussed here, so what I'm saying might not even apply, but it seemed like a good opportunity for some general catch-all advice. Equazcion (talk) 01:37, 11 Nov 2009 (UTC)
- Were you watching my page. This makes me feel less than comfortable. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 02:20, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I was watching your page. My user preferences are set to the default, which is to automatically watch any page I've edited, as I did when I helped you with your signature. On your level of comfort with this, I'll respond in true Nezzadar fashion: I don't really care :) Equazcion (talk) 02:41, 11 Nov 2009 (UTC)
- Good for you. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 06:38, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I was watching your page. My user preferences are set to the default, which is to automatically watch any page I've edited, as I did when I helped you with your signature. On your level of comfort with this, I'll respond in true Nezzadar fashion: I don't really care :) Equazcion (talk) 02:41, 11 Nov 2009 (UTC)
- Were you watching my page. This makes me feel less than comfortable. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 02:20, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
- If human intelligence is astronomically low, you'll have to deal with that wherever you go. Just saying. When I get frustrated with people, I've learned to find it satisfying to remain infuriatingly calm and indifferent in response to them, no matter how hard they've tried to hit the ball to me. Nothing is more defeating than an unrequited provocation. PS. I haven't looked at the particular comments being discussed here, so what I'm saying might not even apply, but it seemed like a good opportunity for some general catch-all advice. Equazcion (talk) 01:37, 11 Nov 2009 (UTC)
Base Design
I know this is a Huggle thing, but I though I'd contact you anyway. I undid your reversion here, since they were only minor edits and they weren't disruptive. The CSD tag is still there, anyway, so it should be deleted soon. A little insignificant Giving thanks to all that is me 18:13, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry about that, I saw the slashes and my mind jumped to them being before the br, making them anti-page breaks, which would be vandalism, as it would inset chaos into the formatting. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 18:17, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
- BTW are there anti-pagebreaks? Nezzadar [SPEAK] 18:17, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
- I joined in April and I've never used Huggle. I have no idea what you're talking about. :) Sorry. A little insignificant Giving thanks to all that is me 18:31, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
- All you need to know is that it was my fault, but Huggle made it seem worse than it was. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 18:33, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
- I joined in April and I've never used Huggle. I have no idea what you're talking about. :) Sorry. A little insignificant Giving thanks to all that is me 18:31, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
- BTW are there anti-pagebreaks? Nezzadar [SPEAK] 18:17, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
You left a message on my talk page claiming that " The recent edit you made to Archmage has been reverted, as it appears to have removed content from the page without explanation" -- this is nonsense, it was explained, and the information removed was not encyclopedic. I guess ylu don't realize what redirects are for. Just because I'm not signed in it doesn't mean you should feel like you can revert what I am doing. Please try to act in a more responsible manner. 63.88.67.230 (talk) 16:27, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Right, umm, redirecting a full page like that is blatant vandalism, as I explained on your page. I will continue to revert this change as vandalism. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 16:28, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Falsely accusing people of vandalism is a violation of the WP:NPA policy. Again, please learn to act like a responsible editor. If you continue such blatant disregard for policies you will get blocked. This kind of aggressive posturing and false claims is not tolerated. 63.88.67.230 (talk) 16:29, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Please read Wikipedia:Vandalism#What_is_not_vandalism to educate yourself on actual policy. 63.88.67.230 (talk) 16:33, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Apologizing in advance for commenting here, as I'm not sure if you want me here at all Nezzadar. However 63.88.67.230 is correct in that this wasn't vandalism, but an attempt to improve the encyclopedia, "even if misguided or ill-considered", as the policy states. This is not an attempt to berate you, as I only intend to point out a mistake, as I hope others do for me. That said, 63.88.67.230, a large and possibly controversial change like this should be discussed first, and to that end I see you've now put up the merge template which is the right way to go. :::Equazcion (talk) 16:45, 13 Nov 2009 (UTC)
- No, it's fine Equazcion. I guess it wasn't vandalism, although I viewed it more along the lines of a massive unwarranted removal of content, which is vandalism. Ah well, we all make mistakes occasionally. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 17:18, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Apologizing in advance for commenting here, as I'm not sure if you want me here at all Nezzadar. However 63.88.67.230 is correct in that this wasn't vandalism, but an attempt to improve the encyclopedia, "even if misguided or ill-considered", as the policy states. This is not an attempt to berate you, as I only intend to point out a mistake, as I hope others do for me. That said, 63.88.67.230, a large and possibly controversial change like this should be discussed first, and to that end I see you've now put up the merge template which is the right way to go. :::Equazcion (talk) 16:45, 13 Nov 2009 (UTC)
THANKS SOOOO MUCH
I fixed my user signature. Does this work:
SylvieHorse (talk) 18:31, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yes. Yes it does. On a seperate note, thank you for thanking me, it's a rarity to be thanked for helping people, so yours gave me a warm, fuzzy feeling, which is nice, since its 22 degrees outside... Nezzadar [SPEAK] 19:41, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Gyurcsany
Hello,
I've added something to your article, which according to your judgment is vandalism. In fact you just erased the truth. Mr Gyurcsany was an informant for the Hungarian secret police, doing much harm during his University term as a student. I believe it is worth mentioning. Another thing: Why is this your personal page? Wikipedia is common goods and it should be kept that way.
Regards
Desmond —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.134.102.237 (talk) 23:28, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
- Right. So here's the thing. You are adding a highly controversial "fact" without sourcing it. Quite simply, you cannot do this. Saying that a person is a member of a secret police force constitutes defamation, so sourcing is critical, as libel charges are serious issues that must be avoided. Unless you can find a credible source, do not put this in again. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 15:04, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
- As for the other part, it's my userspace. To a large extent, I can control it. I can't own things outside of my userspace, but I don't try to. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 15:07, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
- Here is your source a documentary made by a well known Hungarian journalist. Among other things you can listen to people who actually know, knew him. Regards
- http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2614837545601700042# —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.134.102.237 (talk) 21:33, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
- Right. It's an hour long and not in English, so I can't make heads or tails of it. Also, home video is not considered a reliable source. I say home video because it is not attached, as I can see, to a legitimate agency. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 15:13, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
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Rollback
Your rollback access has been removed. See the ANI thread for why. ViridaeTalk 09:24, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Nezzadar, you might consider giving a read to wp:canvassing#Forum shopping. Based on your statements about anonymous editors, it might also be good to read wp:five pillars with an eye toward WP's core values about anonymous editing.- Sinneed 17:42, 21 November 2009 (UTC)