User talk:Nobleeagle/Archive7

Prosification

I see that you are active on the page - at exactly the same time as I finally roused myself to get some work done! Great minds think alike etc...

A few thoughts though, re your structural additions.

• I would be strongly inclined to avoid the Past/Present division, the prose should be more than adequate to show which are no longer powers - this also avoids all the arguments about when a power started/stopped being a Great power.

• You seem to have duplicated headings - doubtless there is a good reason.

• Russia/USSR, encapsulating both entities, do you think that this is better than Russian Federation? (Tied up with the Past/Present division I suppose).

• I've more or less finished the France section. I'd appreciate your thoughts; does it look too much like the Major power page is being reborn? I hoped to put in references aplenty, but much of what I typed doesn't really seem to call for it.

Xdamr^talk 00:38, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Inceidentally, I found http://www.press.umich.edu/pdf/0472112872-ch2.pdf to be the most outstanding source - I essentially summarised it for the France and Austro-Hungary sections. It might save a lot of effort.

Xdamr^talk 00:46, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your thoughts. Re. your suggestion for using <ref name>, I would urge against it. In my view the citation of page numbers, both from 'When the Stakes are High' and other sources, is of key importance in establishing this article's academic credibility. As it stands at present (bar the tables), I think that the article is as scholarly as it can be made. That being so we should adapt the appropriate conventions, which includes citation down to the very page number, paragraph (if numbered), and table.

In a book, multiple consecutive references to the same source are dealt with by substituting Ibid instead of the source title. Barring the first, all consecutive references are denoted Ibid, p38, a neat solution. However, given the fluid nature of the text this is not an option. We could use Harvard referencing, but this is a system that I dislike, requiring as it does further reference to a bibliography in order to properly identify the source. What we could do, a thought which has just struck me as I type, is after the first full citation, refer thereafter to Danilovic, op. cit. p33. I think that solves most problems, although we would have to be constantly on the lookout to make sure that the first reference to the work was in the full form.

Xdamr^talk 13:14, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Good stuff, op cit. it is then. Good work on China, will we have a division of labour on the rest of the prosification?

Xdamr^talk 02:29, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps you can finish off the past powers and I'll work on the present ones?

Perhaps there is a difference in approach here that it might be useful to explore. My understanding of the evolution of the Great powers is that they originated at the Congress of Vienna with the original 5. Austria-Hungary fell out of contention by the time of WW1. The remaining nations (UK, France, Prussia/Germany, Russia) have remained Great powers - a continuity which remains even though the names might have changed along the way eg. Russian Empire -> USSR -> Russian Federation - essentially the same country/people, whatever the name. By my reckoning therefore there is only one 'Past' Great power - Austria-Hungary (Which, of course, is now complete!). Each of the others, along with more recent additions such as the US, India, and China, remain Great powers in the present day.

That's roughly my position, and my primary justification for advocating our dispensing with the Past/Present division (apart from cutting off one avenue of sterile debate - when did 'x' become/stop being a Great power). What did you have in mind?

Xdamr^talk 16:02, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Genocides in history

Much as I agree with your sentiments, most of the historically more recent genocides listed do contain citations (49 of them), or they include main articles (like the Rwandan Genocide) so I do not think that global tags are appropriate. Philip Baird Shearer 11:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

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