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I find your explanation regarding the censorship you (and another person) demand on the Saba Mahmood page very interesting: "There is lots of information about Saba Mahmood over the internet, none of which relate to what is at stake in this reference, which demonstrate the non-relevance of the 'facts' here."

Since you put "facts" in quotation marks, I would love to hear why you believe anyone would fabricate a mostly mundane e-mail by Mahmood to Esra Albayrak, forwarded to Berat Albayrak. The reason why Berat Albayrak's account was hacked was political corruption and the ISIS ties. The Mahmood e-mail (which she never publicly denied) was only a byproduct, of interest primarily to people who are concerned about the politically problematic "scholarship" she, Asad, and their brilliant students produce on the Middle East.

As you may know, the outreach of humanities scholarship is limited and Mahmood's support for the Albayrak and Erdogan families during difficult times (for anyone in Turkey but them) is of interest mainly to other scholars, some of whom have bravely posted on the issue. Here is an example in English: https://twitter.com/i/web/status/972985100869754880

Many other scholars are rightfully scared to produce information about the subject. That is how graduate school, fellowship, job, and tenure applications work. People are aware of the issue and talk about it when "liberal" neo-Orientalists are not present. However, they do not prefer to write about it. Because they know what it means to be silenced as a scholar (and a rent-paying professional) as opposed to a Wikipedia author. (I would also love to see what sort of peer-review reports they would receive.) As far as people from Turkey are concerned, it is also difficult to write about the issue because of the oppressive regime to which Mahmood generously extended her support (until it fell out of fashion). This perceived silence does not make the issue irrelevant. If anything, it makes a certain type of Middle Eastern studies "scholarship" produced in North American academia irrelevant, which is already known to the people whose lives are affected by it.

It is ethically and politically problematic for a person to censor information that would affect their personal and professional interests. Doing so on Wikipedia to hide Saba Mahmood's heartfelt support to the Erdogan family is particularly ironic, given that the Turkish government banned access to the website. If you genuinely think Wikileaks is an unacceptable source for Wikipedia, please censor all relevant pages instead of targeting the Saba Mahmood page only. This link should be a good start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ealbayrak (talkcontribs) 18:30, 3 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

April 2018[edit]

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