User talk:Pahari Sahib/Archive 4

Peerage and baronetage titles

Hi, per Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(names_and_titles)#British_peerage, we generally include titles at articles about peers and use the format "Sir John Doe, 1st Baronet" at articles about baronets. Please take this into account at future moves of articles. Regards

~~ Phoe _talk ~~ 07:59, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmm okay, will bear in mind, though I do find it a little odd. Pahari Sahib 09:48, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Just a comment on this, I did a few moves and none of the pages moved (with the exception of Robert Clive) had a redirect from their actual name to the name + title. The articles titles seemed unnecessarily long and I had yet read [Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(names_and_titles)#British_peerage|this]. Pahari Sahib 10:12, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikireader

just wanted to let you know the pro indian bjp member has created another anti pakistan article which is sourced from blogs called bawawaristan national front you should check it out and possible add a POV tag on it to indicate its pathetic bias cheers 86.162.67.153 (talk) 14:17, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I've already seen this article. Pahari Sahib 14:23, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

All the sources are from the groups websites and from open ed sourced blogs thats why i removed all wikireaders garbage lol indo american forum give me a break 86.162.67.153 (talk) 14:38, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Im talking about the Balawaristan National Front page not the bawaristan page

Yeah I've seen it - its about a political party. Pahari Sahib 14:43, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

its all sourced from open ed and biased websites e.g indo american forum thats why i removed it please keep a eye on wikireader he might add more biased comments 86.162.67.153 (talk) 14:45, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I have removed the reference to indo american forum. many references now are to daily times, EU, Dawn etc. world needs to know everythng is not hunkydory in Northern Areas ( just like rest of pakistan).Wikireader41 (talk) 01:39, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Curiously enough "everythng" is not hunkydory in India either, there is an Insurgency in North-East India, militant groups like the United Liberation Front of Asom, Naxalite movements across the nation. Easy isn't it to sensationalise the issue. Pahari Sahib 08:28, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you could add the names of all the 100 or so separatist groups struggling for freedom in India in the kashmir conflict page just like our Hindutva wikireader freind has done 86.158.178.205 (talk) 18:18, 9 February 2009 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_autonomist_and_secessionist_movements#India

Kashmir and Jammu (princely state)

Will you please see Talk:Kashmir and Jammu (princely state). Do you mind a move to Jammu and Kashmir (princely state) ? Umar Zulfikar Khan (talk) 10:13, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I have moved it now :-) Pahari Sahib 10:21, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

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Azad Kashmir alert

hey pahari just wanted to let you know another indian vandal has desicrated the azad kashmir page please revert his hindutva garbage cheers have a nice day 81.158.129.26 (talk) 19:00, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

tribe-related articles

Thank you for adding to the Mahar (tribe) article. Do you feel any of the other related articles that Dawoodabro has created [1] can be salvaged? I've tagged a few of them for speedy, but will remove if you think there's hope for them. Thanks --AbsolutDan ^(talk) 20:43, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

I'll have a look :-) Pahari Sahib 20:46, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

I'll leave them as they are, one-line articles without refs are just asking to be deleted (plus I can't be bothered). Pahari Sahib 21:06, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the input! --AbsolutDan ^(talk) 21:09, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

New article

hi Pahari Ji. I have written a new article which could use some help from some people knowledgeable about pakistan and with interest in Military issues. it is Drone attacks on Pakistan by the United States of America. especially the section on pakistani response could use some help.

Okay, I'll look into it when I'm a little less busy

Pahari Sahib 19:38, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Frontier Police

Hello Pahari Sahib. I moved "Frontier Police" to "Frontier Police (Pakistan)" since I thought that to be clearer. Many countries have or had a frontier police (Google for "frontier police" for example). And in this way it would be directly clear it is the Frontier Police of Pakistan. But as long as there are no other frontier police articles appearing, things can remain as they are. Best regards, Crowsnest (talk) 17:25, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Okay :-) Pahari Sahib 08:16, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Poonch district

Hi pahari how are you just wanted to let you know the poonch district of azad kashmir is being vandalized by indian pov pushers could you revert there garbage? 86.162.68.26 (talk) 21:21, 21 February 2009 (UTC) He has renamed it POK and made a biased redirect please correct this mess soon as possible86.151.123.14 (talk) 11:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

All sorted :-) (for now anyway) Pahari Sahib 08:24, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Pahari Sahib doing me proud as always 86.158.177.81 (talk) 10:13, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Hkelkar

Hi Pahari. Please see the following edits by 72.179.43.74. I suspect that he is a sock puppet of banned User:Hkelkar. He is back with Anti-Pakistan propaganda. Bowhop (talk) 23:17, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Patented Hkelkar reverts. See recent edits by 70.112.78.85 and Saudagar. Also see blocked Awareoftypes and Wingsonranch. Hkelkar apparently feels very possessive about Poverty in Pakistan article, see edit history [2]. Bowhop (talk) 08:56, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Great work go on

Great work go on.User:Yousaf465 (talk) Need your help here [3] and here [4].Pl create these two pages.User:Yousaf465 (talk)

Just created the basic page :-) Pahari Sahib 22:31, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks now look at the lahore article it need your attention.User:Yousaf465 (talk)

Need Your Help Again!!!!!

I created a file showing areas cities and towns with significant Khetran populations and uploaded it to wikicommons but dont know how to add on wikipedia article. Can u add this image in the Khetran article somewhere near the second paragraph, above the contents table.

Heres the image: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Map_Khetran.JPG

Heres the article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khetran

Thanks for your help.

Regards,

OmerKhetran (talk) 17:35, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Looks like it's already been done. Pahari Sahib 22:32, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

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? Pahari Sahib 11:55, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Baronets are not knights

Please read MOS again. Kittybrewster ☎ 11:53, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Err okay Pahari Sahib 11:55, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:NCNT#British_peerage. nO 4. Kittybrewster ☎ 12:02, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh right, hadn't noticed this! - Why is this anyway? Pahari Sahib 12:04, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Avoiding a solecism. Kittybrewster ☎ 12:06, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

In that case why does Sir David Eccles redirect to David Eccles, 1st Viscount Eccles? Pahari Sahib 12:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

He was a knight 1953-1962 so people might look him up under Sir David Eccles but he was then ennobled and was Lord Eccles for the rest of bis life. Most people would think of him as Lord Eccles. He was never a baronet. Kittybrewster ☎ 12:27, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah I see ... Pahari Sahib 12:29, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, you need to go back and revert all those moves immediately, although I've done Sir Albemarle Bertie, 1st Baronet for you.--Jackyd101 (talk) 12:53, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Looks like that's already been done. Pahari Sahib 16:57, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I see that you have already been informed that your moves were slightly incorrect (although they were in a good faith). With further moves you should also pay attention at the redirects and correct them to avoid double redirects (see Wikipedia:Double redirects). Regards

~~ Phoe _talk ~~ 13:16, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I am sure there's a bot that fixes double redirs, though I sometimes amend it manually like here. Pahari Sahib 16:57, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Probably worth explaining why I moved them to begin with, I hadn't noticed Wikipedia:NCNT#British_peerage. nO 4 because I saw this edit and then came to conclusion that "Sir" should not be included in the article title. Pahari Sahib 10:12, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

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Removing links from history of india

Hi Pahari Sahib,

Have you removed the link http://www.indohistory.com from the History of India page because it has an anti-pakistan article?

If that is the reason why you have removed the link then I really doubt your eligibility for being an advanced wiki user. Other than the article the site talks about the wholistic history of India much better than any other site on the internet. Moreover the pages are very well organized.

Regards, COW —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cracker.online.wizard (talk • contribs) 09:42, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Don't have a cow cracker, the reason it got removed was because it had a spam link, see here, did you ask the same question to User:Ohnoitsjamie or comment on his "eligibility"? Or only asking me as I am Pakistani - oh and I never claimed to be "an advanced wiki user". PS I didn't realise it had an anti Pakistani article till you mentioned it!

Pahari Sahib 09:53, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Furthermore what about this guy, who is quite clearly not Pakistani (Indian in fact) doing this edit. To assuage you, I will leave it in - but its looking pretty likely it will get removed again by other editors. Pahari Sahib 09:58, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Told you, four different editors have reverted you (only me being the Pakistani). Pahari Sahib 10:15, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Article deletion

Hi,

I see we have quite a few common interests, i.e the society and culture of Pakistan.

I have recently had a few of my articles deleted, the editors seem to be taken a strict line on Pakistani articles. I have had this message left Scarian (talk | contribs) deleted "Punjabi Saudagaran-e-Delhi" ‎ (A7: No indication that the article may meet guidelines for inclusion)

Not sure why this has been done. My article gave clear refrences, and avoided hyperbole. Infact, this chap Scarian has deleted almost all my Pakistan related articles. I have looked at A7, and can't see how A7 would apply to any of them. Is this guy Scarian got a history with this. My understanding is that you can't simply go ahead and delete something with out discussing the matter. Not sure how to respond.

Having said that, some of the Pakistan related articles are poorly written. Not sure who else is also editting Pakistan articles, but perhaps if we could work together with others to tidy up the Pakistani articles. I am happy to volunteer.

My background in Mulley (Muslim) Jat (Ahlawat) orignally from Rohtak, now village is now in Mirpur Khas, Sindh. So some articles obviously are Jat related.

Your assistance would be much appreaciated.

Waltham2

Hi Pahari, any assistance with Waltham is much appreciated. The articles he was creating didn't reach notability as far as I could tell. Although I must confess I have limited knowledge when it comes to these things. The source(s) [He was varying between 1 or 2] he was using didn't seem that strong either. I would much appreciate it if you could point him along the right route? Thanks very much in advance, friend :-) Scarian^{Call me Pat!} 17:15, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay will look into it :-) Pahari Sahib 17:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

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Categories

Hi. PLeas edon't add a generic category to village articles like Category:Pakistan. You should be experienced enough to know what the system is for cities, towns and villages on here see here. Please ocrrect the ones that are in the main Pakistan category thanks. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 22:52, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

It's not actually obligatory - same as say using edit summaries. Pahari Sahib 23:14, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Talking of generic cats isn't Category:Cities, towns and villages in the Punjab Region of Pakistan a generic cat? I go over these every now and again and make more specific like here I do also check out Category:Pakistan and put into sub-cats. I put articles in Cat:Pakistan if I am thinking of revisiting them. Sometimes I put articles in generic cats if I couldn't find the specific cat when creating (like here). Pahari Sahib 23:29, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

If you don't catgegorise properly it makes life harder for other people who may be working through the catrgories at a later date. Its difficult sorting out villages already by people who don't use the proper categories given, don't categorise or just place them in category stubs and don't use even main categpries. If I had been working through the proper category trying to improve the articles i would have missed the ones you didn't out in there. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 12:54, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikireader again

this time he has made a horrible article on "Extremist Pakistanis" i urge you to strike now and end this indians pov pushing mission while we can so he never comes back and spreads his antipakistan hate cheers he is sock of Hkelkar 86.151.123.189 (talk) 18:48, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi Pahari ignore the rants of Nangparbat. I do invite you to take a look at my latest offering on wikipedia Islamic Extremism among British Pakistanis and add your edits. I do confess I got the idea for this article thinking about Nangparbat.;-)--Wikireader41 (talk) 21:45, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Pakistan

Please look into it.It needs your help.yousaf465'

Hkelkar again

Ban-evading socks: 70.112.4.25 (talk · contribs · count), 24.28.80.144 (talk · contribs · count) (IP addresses from Austin, Texas), Molecularsphere (talk · contribs · count), Atomicplane (talk · contribs · count). Evidence: [5], [6], [7], same editing pattern and edit-warring with Beanmore and Nangparbat. Hkelkar's proxy: [8], [9], [10], [11]. It is evident that he himself is a sock. Ixtlilton (talk) 09:10, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Thats ^^^^ Beanmore/Jack.Hartford sock! Sanguine learner ^talk 19:18, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Sanguine learner and IP 59.182.11.24 appeared out of nowhere. See [12] where he explicitly admit to being a KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 (talk · contribs · count). Ixtlilton (talk) 14:46, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

New Hkelkar socks: Ablepoetry (talk · contribs · count), 24.28.80.218 (talk · contribs · count). Hkelkar vandalism of Wikipedia is impossible to stop [13], [14] ... every single day he creates new socks. Ixtlilton (talk) 14:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

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Gujranwala

Hello to you, I'm from Israel and i wrote in the Hebrew wikipedia the articles about Peshawar, Faisalabad and Gujranwala (and now i'm writing about Multan). I had troubles finding relaiable rain data about Gujranwala. The site of Punjab government [www.punjab.gov.pk]] states 888 milimeters a year. But if I look at nearbye cities like Lahor and Sialkot I find it not so logical. I found two tourists sites with weather data that had different quantities but I didn't want to use it since I found that their Israel rain data isn't relaiable. So, can you help and find a reliable source to this question, and if there are tempratures data as well it will be better. By the way, I wrote in the discussion page of Gujranwala that the coordinates are wrong, and untill now nobody fixed it. Thank you.Tushyk (talk) 17:19, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

My reply

CfD nomination of Category:Birds of Islamabad

I have nominated Category:Birds of Islamabad (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Shyamal (talk) 03:07, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Not interested in the outcome, saw this as a redcat on a page so created it. Pahari Sahib 18:59, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

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Pahari Sahib do u have a problem with the Sultan? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajawaqaskiani (talk • contribs) 21:08, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

No Pahari Sahib 21:10, 3 April 2009 (UTC)