User talk:Palinodial

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See you are working on Schleswig horse, wanted to be sure you are aware of Holsteiner horse, already on wiki and to distinguish between the two if they are indeed different breeds. Also note Norfolk Trotter, which is a redirect of Yorkshire Trotter, which may be the same breed as your redlinked Yorkshire Coach Horse. (And many of these extinct English breeds would benefit from some work, if you are interested) Also added some standard templates to the draft for your benefit. Montanabw^(talk) 01:45, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

The holstein is a lightweight warmblood suited to eventing whereas a schleswig horse is a draught carriage horse - very different will link a phoot but can't upload due to copyright http://www.learn-about-horses.com/image-files/schleswig-horse.jpg. The norfolk trotter i believe to be distinct from the yorkshire trotteras the literature i have on them refers to them separately as they do the yorkshire coach horse. I am currently just going through the books i have on live breeds and adding or editing as i go. --Palinodial (talk) 11:47, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

OK, sometimes you can find old photos or sketches of the foundation breeds in pre-1923 publications, which can be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons with the proper license ( see WP:IMAGE for more info, it's complicated, but basically if an image is old enough and was published in a work long enough ago, it can be public domain now. ). Be real careful about spinning off too many separate articles if a "breed" is more of a local type - the old extinct stuff is tricky. For the old trotting carriage horses, you may also find Ostfriesen and Alt-Oldenburger and Heavy warmblood helpful; the editor who worked those up had excellent referencing and was very knowledgeable about warmblood foundation breeding, it's a bummer she doesn't edit here any more. She also did Studbook selection. Montanabw^(talk) 17:39, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

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Hey, if in the next day or so, you can expand the raw text of your new article from the about 1170 words it's at now to 1500 words, you can nominate your new article for Did you know?. I'd support you doing so and help you with the blurb and such. (They like something catchy, and it has to have a source). They are a little fussy over there, so if you can find one more source besides Draper, that would be ideal; you have to have it over 1500 words and nominate it within five days of it going into the mainspace and it has to meet the criteria here:Wikipedia:DYK#Eligibility_criteria. If you can't pull that off in time, you can also expand it fivefold later and DYK it then, but that's tougher. Montanabw^(talk) 20:44, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

updated and added from the societys page and found image finally on corresponding german article. itd be great to have it up there

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Victuallers (talk) 07:51, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

have added reference to the stallions

Palinodial (talk) 11:46, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I expanded the hook with an alternative one. Also tweaked the language of the article a bit after reviewing the source material. (Dang, it's annoying that Draper isn't in Google books...) Montanabw^(talk) 16:04, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=CdJg3qXssWYC&pg=PA373&lpg=PA373&dq=schleswig+horse&source=bl&ots=cjDf-22V02&sig=SrEBCFxnKvPtjaYCr1xqRvgLPUM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ivkWULbcOKmW0QWd_YHQBA&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAg that may help also but i have all inforation from there in the other two sources but it will help to build other articles

Palinodial (talk) 16:50, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

That's Hendricks. Her book isn't great, it's more the "we use it when there isn't anything better." However, the bit in the Holstein section on the warmblood/draft split is something that may be worth adding and sourcing, expands on what's there and adds one more source, which the DYK sorts like. Article is close to C-class already. Montanabw^(talk) 18:51, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Schleswig horse

Yngvadottir (talk) 08:02, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

It's now featured on Portal:Germany! If you have other DYK related to Germany, please feel free to add it there yourself, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:07, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

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	Great work on the Schleswig horse article! Keep up the amazing work :) SarahStierch (talk) 07:23, 29 August 2012 (UTC)