User talk:ParkerMMM

Welcome[edit]

Hello, ParkerMMM, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions to Mountain Meadows massacre. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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BRMo 15:55, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MMM[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia! It's not that edits must be authorized as such, but in highly controversial articles such as this one (which has only recently stabilized), if experienced editors are watching the article one may have to talk about changes on the talk page first. We have been trying to cite the article more or less line by line, because the topic is still so controversial. The information you've posted on the talk page seems to correspond with much of what I've read about the emigrants. What we need, IMHO, are citations to support integrating some of it into the article. Lastly, I speak only for myself, I'm not a "leader" of any of this, though I did write the outline draft for the present article, others have done at least as much work adding helpful source citations and detail. Again, welcome and please try to bear with all of us. Thanks! Gwen Gale 16:20, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to order your Fancher book. Also I will try to encorporate material from your edit back into the MMM's wikipedia text. Do you know of good links I could add? Say to a listing of its victims that's posted on-line somewhere, that I could an online link to, or other on-line write up/s about the MMM that I could link to for balance? (Finally: I believe fellow wikipedian Gwen Gale may be mistaken a little in how she characterizes "original research" in that I believe wikepedia's policy is once someone's own extensive research is published, should wikipedia be fortunate enough to have a contributor of such a stature to help us edit here, you certainly are allowed and even encouraged to freely cite your own publications, subject to the community's weighing of its merits and neutrality.) :^) --Justmeherenow 02:10, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am on the Board of the Mountain Meadows Association, and because our membership is from both sides of the event, I strive to remain historically accurate and neutral in tone :) No judgements or interpretations. The history of the Massacre is what it is; it is the accurate way in which it is presented that is important. I certainly would recommend the Mountain Meadows Association website at http://www.mtn-meadows-assoc.com. It is the largest resource for primary records on the Massacre on the internet. ParkerMMM 03:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for lending your expertise to Wikipedia! Hey I note from the MMA site that there's to be a reenactment, I suppose in period dress, of the wagon train at MM on September 11th. Which is sure to be a heart touching affair! But anyway, regarding the war hysteria in the summer of 1857?: Say at the very moment Baker's party crested the final Wasatch pass before winding its way through Emigration canyon into the Salt Lake valley, how far along had the Utah Expedition progressed by this point and had its troops been harrassed yet by Lot Smith's irregulars? And did the Arkansas emigrants cheer the prospect of the "Mormon rebellion's" being put down (with rhetoric later to be construed by massacre apologists as having helped incite the colonists to attack them: for example Lee's report somewhere, I forget where, that a yoked pair of oxen in Fancher's company had been mockingly referred to by their driver as Brigham and Heber? --Justmeherenow 22:52, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]