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}} Woodroar (talk) 22:25, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pbs123456789, you're welcome to remove or archive the message I left for you, per WP:OWNTALK. On Wikipedia, that means you read the message. But please don't selectively edit the message to remove most of its meaning—that is inappropriate, per WP:OTHERSCOMMENTS. If you don't want the message on your Talk page, that's fine, but remove it in full. Woodroar (talk) 21:38, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Information icon Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 02:44, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please show actual evidence of vandalism. Not sure how clarifying the stance of a politician like Jennifer Gross on anti-medical discrimination bills constitutes vandalism. Some of the previous content on Jennifer's page is libelous content, so not sure how this is allowed to stay up... Pbs123456789 (talk) 02:48, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pretty much all of your edits are whitewashing and contrary to what reliable sources say. Stop changing such content or you will get blocked. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 02:51, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What source says that Jennifer Gross's tendency is toward Big Government?? This was badly sourced anyway & 2/4 references were general references to bills she wrote, not actually saying that she's for "Big Government". You need to provide a better explanation, other than just saying that I'm gonna "get banned" for "edits". Pbs123456789 (talk) 02:55, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This isn't about just one article, but about all your recent editing. Your edits are WP:Profringe, and we don't allow that. You have received information templates above that explain you must be careful. Now you're ignoring that and just whitewashing everything. We allow criticism of advocates of fringe ideas, such as dangerous anti-vaccine sentiments. You are no newbie here. Don't try to right great wrongs here. We don't need your attempts to "fix" content you don't like.
When your edits are reverted, that means they are rejected, and you must not restore them. Leave the status quo version in place. If you really think you have a strong case for your edit, based on reliable sources you provide, then follow our WP:BRD procedure. That means when your BOLD edit has been REVERTED, you must not restore it, but instead DISCUSS the matter on the talk page and seek to create a consensus for your preferred version. In that situation, to not follow BRD is edit warring, and we do not allow that, no matter how right you may be. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 03:12, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody is on the talk page, so not really sure how you want ppl to talk about something, when all the edits just keep getting kicked back, with no writeup as to what specifically is wrong. I posted something on there, but nobody's going to respond, because this article isn't neutral. This isn't virtue, this is just activism.
I'll be sure to research all the editors/IPs on here and send to Gross's office for further analysis. Clearly this site needs some accountability. Pbs123456789 (talk) 03:18, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds like intimidation and a veiled legal threat. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 04:39, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Valjean. I noticed your edits on the John Gibbs (government official) page to remove the term far right. I'd support the removal of that term also.
The use of that term blatantly violates violates WP:BLPSTYLE, which states "Do not label people with contentious labels, loaded language, or terms that lack precision, unless a person is commonly described that way in reliable sources. Instead use clear, direct language and let facts alone do the talking."
Encourage you to remove that term again with that argument. 66.227.177.2 (talk) 01:01, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Stop icon Your recent edits to Talk:Jennifer Gross (politician) could give Wikipedia contributors the impression that you may consider legal or other "off-wiki" action against them, or against Wikipedia itself. Please note that making such threats on Wikipedia is strictly prohibited under Wikipedia's policies on legal threats and civility. Users who make such threats may be blocked. If you have a dispute with the content of any page on Wikipedia, please follow the proper channels for dispute resolution. Please be sure to comment on content, not contributors, and where possible make specific suggestions for changes supported by reliable independent sources and focusing especially on verifiable errors of fact. Thank you. Panian513 13:34, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]