User talk:Philosopher Torin

The Spinoza Job

Following your work on the Spinoza's Ethica page with interest. Thought about having a go at it myself but you are obviously the man for the job. Upon referring a Dutch friend to the original version, I got back this link http://www.iep.utm.edu/spinoza/, presumeably as a "no-comment". May your enthusiasm hold out! Trev M (talk) 01:55, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Trev, I was so irked by that page when I first saw it that I started making changes to it without even being signed in. But then realized I should probably sign in so I could comment on the talk page about the problems with it. It was pretty far-gone so I'm hoping my entirely redone version stands (I mean, by all means, fix up anything I may have missed (there is a lot I have left out, mostly because I'm running out of steam). I think as far as Wikipedia quality goes, it is good enough. It is, after all, supposed to be a summary of the philosophy, not a paper on it. I am well aware of the IEP (and, to be honest, I think the SEP is better). It is interesting to note that I was not using the IEP as a resource when I revamped the page, but my structure is somewhat similar to theirs (if only because, since I work on Spinoza, that structure is called for by the philosophy itself).

The creator of the original article simply hadn't understood Spinoza. It is utterly damning that he didn't know what the principle of sufficient reason is (and yet thought himself qualified to create an article on Spinoza). I felt bad in a way, since he was clearly trying, but I think this is the point of Wikipedia, to progressively improve the quality of the articles? (or in this case, drastically improve the quality in one punctuated burst...)

Glad that my work hasn't gone unnoticed! :) Philosopher Torin (talk) 02:13, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

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