User talk:Philscijazz

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Thanks for the welcome! I found the Help Desk yesterday and introduced my project: to create a draft page for my father (award-winning biophysicist, professor emeritus), and got a lot of good advice there.

I've just added declaration of COI on my user page and on the draft talk page, so I think I'm covered there.

I'm getting close to submitting the draft for review, just looking at final details.

I don't know how much I'll continue to be involved in editing other pages, etc., but who knows. This project was my entry point, and is driving my learning curve. Philscijazz (talk) 15:35, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Samuel Krimm (August 28)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Utopes was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Independent, reliable sources describing the subject are required.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Samuel Krimm and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 00:58, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Philscijazz! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 00:58, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the swift response, just left a post at Teahouse.

I had been led to believe that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(academics)

would relax the independent coverage criterion, since he satisfies criteria 2 and 3 for academic notability.

If this is not the case, then there is no solution, because there is no independent biography available. Just the CV published on the university website. Philscijazz (talk) 01:42, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question about secondary sources:

Are official faculty pages published on the university website adequate to establish faculty status, at least? That seems unequivocal. I'm aiming to try to locate suitable citations for individual items in the article, in the absence of a comprehensive independent bio.

For example:

https://lsa.umich.edu/physics/people/emeritus/skrimm.html - simply to establish he is emeritus faculty in the physics department

https://lsa.umich.edu/biophysics/people/emeritus/skrimm.html - simply to establish he is emeritus research scientist in biophysics

Also, there is education info on this page:

https://macro.engin.umich.edu/profile/krimm-samuel/

If these will work, in place of citing the CV, then maybe I can proceed this way (I've made relevant edits in the draft). Can I get a ruling on this without resubmitting the draft? Philscijazz (talk) 19:31, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Samuel Krimm has been accepted

Samuel Krimm, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

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Thanks again, and happy editing!

DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:55, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Whew, thanks!

Given my declared COI, I don't expect to be editing this one, at least. Philscijazz (talk) 06:01, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, well done for creating your first article... and for surviving the process. :) It gets somewhat easier after the first one.

Can I just remind you that since you have a conflict of interest (COI) in this matter, you should not edit the article directly now that it has been published. Please make instead edit requests via its talk page, using the {{Edit COI}} template.

Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:04, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely understood. Much appreciated. Philscijazz (talk) 06:10, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]