User talk:Pilaz

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Welcome to the drive!

Welcome, welcome, welcome Pilaz! I'm glad that you are joining the drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.

Fix a random page lacking sources

CactiStaccingCrane (talk)18:54, 1 February 2024 UTC [refresh]via JWB and Geardona (talk to me?)

Charvensod... in Italian?

Hi there :) Concerning this edit, why specifying French and Italian for the pronunciation? Since this toponym exists in French only, any speaker of any language should pronounce it as it indicated, in French, so what's the point of specifying French, Italian? Simoncik84 (talk) 17:54, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

@Simoncik84: That's a good question, but basically the idea is to show how it's pronounced by French speakers and Italian speakers. Originally I wanted to show the "French" pronunciation of the official toponym, with the /ʁ/ sound (as in regarder), and also include the /r/ sound in second position since it's quite common to hear Charvensod pronounced that way by Italian speakers... what do you think? Pilaz (talk) 20:01, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Regardless, I'm not deeply attached to the inclusion of "French" or "Italian", so if you'd rather have those removed, feel free to be WP:BOLD. I was mostly replicating what I saw for other articles like Moscow or Munich. Pilaz (talk) 20:06, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

New page reviewer granted

Hi Pilaz, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the new page reviewer user right to your account. This means you now have access to the page curation tools and can start patrolling pages from the new pages feed. If you asked for this at requests for permissions, please check back there to see if your access is time-limited or if there are other comments.

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Thanks for offering to help out! While you're otherwise clearly (over)qualified for NPP, I do have to say that your actions around User talk:Atchom#Alan William Shave moved to draftspace and User talk:Atchom#Do not add Who's Who's (UK) gave me major pause. Overuse of draftify is probably the number one mistake new NPPers make and one of the most common reasons for revoking the right. Using it over disputably reliable sources—regardless of who's right about the sources in the end—and when you know the creator will object, would qualify as "overuse" in my book. If you'll take my advice, try steer clear of draftify entirely when patrolling new pages – it's not as useful as it may seem at first.

Regarding WP:NPPSCHOOL, I wouldn't bother. An experienced editor like you will know all the basics already and the rest will get filled in as you go. – Joe (talk) 08:23, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

@Joe Roe: Hi Joe, thank you for the opportunity and the links. With respect to draftify, I have changed my mind with respect to it in the way that you suggest - it's best to bring the matter to AfD when reviewing new pages that clearly don't meet the criteria for GNG. In the case of Atchom two years ago, he was introducing articles to mainspace which were below the threshold required by the GNG, since they all solely including one source (the GNG demands multiple). At the time, it seemed to me that Draftify could give him the chance to meet the AFC criteria without demanding the community's attention at AfD, and it seems to me now that I could have just tagged those pages for notability and circled around later to see if they were still in demand of more sources before sending them to AfD at a later time (AfD is a very time-consuming endeavor, especially if one is the nominator and engages in a thorough BEFORE).

Obviously this would be different with respect to the NPP process because the workflow prioritizes AfD over draftify, and I will follow it to the best of my ability. With that being said, Atchom was introducing articles with a generally unreliable source (Who's Who UK), and on that point the community consensus hasn't changed, and despite multiple reminders he was still pushing edits with the source, which to me appeared to be disruptive behavior, hence the final reminder. Luckily things smoothed out after discussion, as they usually do.

At any rate, your point is well taken, and I will steer clear of draftifying entirely when patrolling new pages as you suggest, and fully agree with your motivation behind this recommendation. Draftifying is usually less transparent than AfD and prone to more belligerence. Pilaz (talk) 11:42, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

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