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October 2017

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Your recent editing history at Khalmg Tanghchin chastr shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
Use the article's talk page instead of constant reverting. I'm not even particularly concerned as to the source as I am the transliterations and translations. I have no idea of what transliteration system you're using. Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:49, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 month for abusing multiple accounts. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Yunshui  13:46, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]


This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

PoetOfSaiMiHunManKal (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

After reviewing the whole (very extensive) situation, it is clear that PoetOfSaiMiHunManKal itself is not a sock puppet account. It seems that duplicate accounts impersonating this one, suffixing 2 and 3 to the username as well as one that takes the user's full name directly, were recently created in a likely case of framing the user. It appears that some aura of spite has developed towards this user from multiple(?) people as a result of a dispute about the accuracy of a translation of Kalmyk lyrics, between those which were originally presented and those which the user had supplied, as the user is a speaker of Kalmyk and has reviewed the lyrics with several native speakers. Even the edit war tag does not have clear justification as the user had been making each edit with an explicit statement of reason and had not been rapidly or maliciously reverting or blanking articles. The situation seems to be quite multi-faceted at this point, so there is likely the need for community review of the situation. Jackwolfroven (talk) 12:38 pm, Today (UTC−5)

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The user is welcome to request him or herself for unblock; I don't think we should be considering this unblock request filed by someone else, particularly when the blocked editor hasn't edited since October, and the requesting user hasn't otherwise edited since July. only (talk) 03:53, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

@Yunshui: Ahem! -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 21:24, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you get another CU to look over this for a second opinion - I'll be perfectly honest; I don't remember what it was in the CU evidence that led me to block this account back in October, and I don't have the time at this moment to check against every other Diabedia sock (there are a lot). Yunshui  22:48, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]


To all involved: I am NOT a “sockpuppet” or any other sort of false accusation that’s been hurled at me! The issue was about the page on the national anthem of Kalmykia. I originally edited it when I noticed it was blanked. In 2016 I had a bitter dispute with the Malay YouTuber emerly35 who was repeatedly vandalizing the page and replacing the English translation with a bogus one that I, as a Kalmyk speaker, found outrageous. In response, I originally made the English translation of the Kalmyk lyrics with help from a Buryat friend and it was approved by actual Kalmyk natives. In this instance, I am thoroughly convinced that the user “IrynaHarpy” has been intentionally bullying me by repeatedly removing my edits, falsely accusing me of "edit wars" (that I never declared in the first place), and blocking me from editing on false grounds (they accused me of using multiple profiles when that simply is not true, explained below). If you look on the edit history, you'll see that the issues started on October 4th when Iryna blanked the page with no justification but the remark "NOTLYRICS", implying without any justification that my translation was wholly invalid, leading me to believe that the edit was not done in good faith and to therefore undo it. The user immediately made this edit again and accused me of edit warring. I made a post on Iryna Harpy's talk page (which has since been deleted) explaining my disposition yet the user responded in a pretentious tone about how my "lack of citations" and "original research" aren't allowed on Wikipedia (even though I've read hundreds of articles that involve these so it's unfair for them to specifically castigate my contributions on the Kalmyk national anthem) and undid my edit again. I reverted the page to my version again and added actual sources consisting of an article from a Kalmyk media portal that has the lyrics of the Kalmyk anthem and a Kalmyk dictionary to legitimize my translation. Iryna Harpy responded by undoing my edit and making a false accusation of edit warring (22:01, 12 October 2017). I responded by denying the accusation of edit warring, but Iryna continued to pursue me and subsequently placed a warning on my talk page that I could be blocked for edit warring (22:47, 12 October 2017). Afterwards I decided not to engage in further edits and decided to try talking to my Kalmyk friends to get them to justify my translation. However, without any further action on my part, on the morning of October 21st, I received a message on my talk page saying I was blocked from editing for a month for using multiple accounts and using them for illegitimate purposes. This is nothing but outright bullying since I HAVEN'T made any edits since October 12th. I checked the edit history again and it seems that someone (I know now it was the user Diabedia, who has linked my WikiTongues video to expose me and take away my anonymity) had made a profile in imitation of mine (the same username except ending in a 2, and then another one in a 3) in order to frame me, and for this reason the user Yunshui has blocked me from editing (presumably taking the bait of Diabedia’s deception). On the 24th I noticed that Yunshui had blocked me from editing indefinitely, now concluding that my profile is a sock puppet. All of these events have caused me significant stress in real life as well. I personally decided I'd drop it after the debacle on October 12th since I decided it wasn't worth my time but they insist on reigniting the conflict and causing me more issues. I'm outraged by all of this as none of the other parties speak Kalmyk and the accurate translation is important to me since Wikipedia is the first place people look to for lyrics of national anthems and accurate translations of their lyrics (as many other anthems have the lyrics and proper translations featured on their Wikipedia articles). On Thursday, December 7th, I got an email stating that someone made another imitation account with my ACTUAL NAME (albeit rendered in Cyrillic) and used it to apparently cause trouble again and left a message on my talk page. Upon following the link (https://en.wikipedia.org/.../User:%D0%9D%D0%B0%D0%BE%D0...) it seems to be yet another fake account by Diabedia. PoetOfSaiMiHunManKal (talk) 00:10, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]