User talk:Ponyo/Archives/September/2011

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Best wishes

Pneumonia? Ai! Hope you are in full recovery. Span (talk) 20:53, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! The pneumonia didn't kill me me, but I think following up on a week long 8000+ article watchlist might.... Jezebel'sPonyo ^{bons mots} 20:58, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Maybe a message from the ether norns to cut back a bit :0) Span (talk) 21:12, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Just wanted to pop in and say that I too hope that you are feeling better and send best wishes for your continuing recovery. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 21:18, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Wow

That was nothing short of ridiculous. Nice block. I looked at the antisemitic edits before the last block, and then at the more recent batch, and decided that it wasn't a static IP--how wrong I was. Drmies (talk) 23:14, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm 99% sure which registered account the IP is linked to; I gave them an "I'm watching you" shot across the bow so hopefully there will be no more logging out to unleash their vile outpourings. --Jezebel'sPonyo ^{bons mots} 13:01, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Lead deletions

Hi Ponyo, I'd welcome your thoughts on some recent IP disruptive activity. User:24.11.246.211‎ is knocking out any lead references to the Pulitzer Prize in biographies of writers. I have pointed out it goes to criterion of notability which should be pointed up in the lead. He just deletes the comments on his talk page. Your thoughts welcome. Span (talk) 17:07, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

The IP edits actually conform to biography guidelines. The use of terms such as "Academy award winning" and such are generally not used in the opening descriptor of the lede; the preference is to give a fuller explanation of the award and its significance further in the lede or body of the article.WP:FILMBIO#On-going projects/to do lists has a more thorough explanation. --Jezebel'sPonyo ^{bons mots} 14:19, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. So to say "the author won a Pulitzer Prize for Heaven's Boat in 1987" is better than just noting they won the Pulitzer. It seems important to mention some reason for their notability in the lede. Best wishes. Span (talk) 14:34, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Absolutely right. Coincidentally I discovered this nugget of info the same way you did, I reverted an edit where an editor blanked "Emmy award winning" and someone pointed me to the snipped above. --Jezebel'sPonyo ^{bons mots} 14:44, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

OK. Cheers. Span (talk) 14:47, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

jon deibler edit

What should I do to source my edit of the osu basketball player to your satisfaction? The information I posted was correct... — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiRIM (talk • contribs) 17:49, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Information added to articles, particularly biography articles, need to include reliable sources for verification. Where did you obtain the information you wish to add? Jezebel'sPonyo ^{bons mots} 17:54, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

I am very new to wikipedia--first day--so here are sources for the info I posted onto the jon diebler bio: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/36132/jon-diebler (his career stats) and http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/03/ohio-states-jon-diebler-on-record-setting-3-point-tear/1 (school and big10 records). You are welcome to attach these sources to his bio for me because I haven't figured that part out yet. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiRIM (talk • contribs) 18:15, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

I cannot see where within the USA Today article where it confirms the three statements that you are looking to add "he earned the popular nickname 3-bler due to his 3 point shooting", "Diebler's 374 career 3 point baskets is the current school record at Ohio State", and "His 2010-2011 senior season 3pt field goal percentage of 50.7% is also a school record for minimum of 100 attempts". I do admit however that my eyes glaze over a bit when I read about basketball, so I could very well have missed it! For adding references to articles, this page provides a "quick start" type of explanation on how to add citations to articles, which you may find useful. Jezebel'sPonyo ^{bons mots} 18:40, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Understanding you have no interest in basketball: the usa today article provided states that Diebler's records are big10 conference records (which by default makes them school records) and the espn page verifies his statistics. Upon re-reading the usatoday article I did notice that his 2010-11 shooting percentage was not mentioned as a school record however I found another article on espn (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6133370) which verfies his 3bler nickname and the OSU athletic department verfies his other 3 point related school records http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/diebler_jon00.html. I want to responsibly contribute to the wiki but I guess if I'm going to be dragged over the coals for every little thing....do you think it's worth the effort Ponyo?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiRIM (talk • contribs) 20:29, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

It's fantastic that you have found references for the statements you wish to add, it is exactly what is needed to ensure the edits are not challenged and/or removed; this is especially important when adding personal information such as the nickname. I understand that as a new editor you could find the exercise of including sources frustrating, however verifiability is one of the 5 Pillars of Wikipedia. The welcome message I left on your talk page has a wealth of information regarding best editing practices and guidelines - it may seem overwhelming at first, but it is ultimately a rewarding experience. Jezebel'sPonyo ^{bons mots} 20:43, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Max Nicholas Dell

Hi, I see you deleted Max Dell as a G3. There's a suspicious creation today of Max Nicholas Dell. As you are hopefully familiar with the reasons for the G3 of the original article I thought you might like to take a look and see if the new one is equally dubious. Thanks QU ^TalkQu 20:37, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing it to my attention, it has now been deleted and the creator blocked. Jezebel'sPonyo ^{bons mots} 20:56, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Max Dell

Whoops, I was leaving a "Doubtful" comment on talk page when you deleted main article. talk page will need deleting now., cheers IdreamofJeanie (talk) 20:51, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Gone now :) Jezebel'sPonyo ^{bons mots} 20:56, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for cleaning up the Dell case... can you believe that Xavier Aquino Velasco lasted for 2 years! Amazing. Whenever a Mr Zbot or Suncreator find a bunch of old untagged UBLPs, after cursing them for while, a few articles like "Sir X" and you think this is worthwhile. Aveagudweekend, The-Pope (talk) 17:01, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing regarding the article's longevity when I reviewed the history. The "love life" section was particularly, um, inappropriate. --Jezebel'sPonyo ^{bons mots} 17:04, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Recreation of SALTed article

I zapped the new hoax article and blocked the creator. Let me know if they pop up anywhere else. Cheers, --Jezebel'sPonyo ^{bons mots} 13:59, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

I wanted to leave a honeypot open in case any new sock accounts were created so I could lock them down in short order. If it becomes a more wide spread problem I'll throw together an SPI report and do some additional salting. --Jezebel'sPonyo ^{bons mots} 14:26, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Ah, good thinking. I've added that page to my watchlist, so I'll see if/when it gets created. Giant Snowman 14:29, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Just a note ...

You might want to see my note here because it somewhat contradicts your statements there ... we wouldn't want them to actually use up three whole usernames just to become a good editor :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:40, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I can see how that may be confusing. I have been in email correspondence with her via email as well and provided her with all of the optional venues to request an unblock. The Kellie45 account will be perfectly acceptable for the new username, as long as she understands the account shouldn't be used to add promotional material to the TitanFile article.Jezebel'sPonyo ^{bons mots} 20:02, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

woohoo!

		The Empty Set Barnstar
		Thank you for your efforts in eliminating unreferenced BLPs! joe decker ^{talk to me} 16:59, 28 September 2011 (UTC)	{ }

Greetings

Hi Ponyo, hope all is well with you and yours. I've finally been shamed into creating User:WereSpielChequers/Recall (Pedro named me in his, so I realised I really ought to have one myself). Would you be willing to be on the list? If so just edit it and move your name out of the hidden bit. Ϣere SpielChequers 20:34, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

All done (though I'm certain it will remain a formality only!) --Jezebel'sPonyo ^{bons mots} 20:52, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Ϣere SpielChequers 21:08, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

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