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Cheers

For the user talkpage revert. It was very much appreciated :) AngelOfSadness talk 18:10, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Pleasure!Prashanthns (talk) 18:11, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

MU330

Were the edits you reverted here really more unconstructive than your revert? If you take the time to look through the many edits by User:Freemason, I think you will understand why I wanted to return to a point before he became involved. User:Bumm13 reverted ten of his edits here and still left an infobox that listed only three of the five band members. I also provided a link to documentation which supports pretty much everything in the article (also see the talk page).

Your revert restores a piece of code garbage that I have already removed three times and which causes the infobox to malfunction; it removes the above-mentioned link; it adds an "Unreferenced" Box, an "Original Research" Box and several flags all of which were addressed by the deleted link; it removes the names of all past members of the band and it adds a "God-Knows-What" Box under the Unref and OR boxes. Now tell me the truth -- you didn't use the "Preview" button, did you? You just saw an IP editor and assume the worst, right? Or is this all part of some devious plan to goad IP users like myself into enlisting? 24.36.35.188 (talk) 21:10, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello. Thanks for your clear note on my talk page regarding your edits to MU330. And sorry for the late reply! I logged back in now after a short break, and I see that indeed your edits are very productive and significantly improved the article. Now, coming to why did I revert? I honestly don't have any bias against IP editors. I hope you take my word on this. However, on seeing that so many vandalisms coming from IP's and after a long day of vandal fighting, I 'jumped the gun' on seeing an edit which removed tags from the article. I accept that I did not use the preview button on this edit, as I must have. I am genuinely sorry about this, and I have undone myself. I hope you continue your editing work.

To further clarify my position about logging in with a user name, I believe it is very good to do that. However, I would never try to enforce that by biasedly reverting IP edits, as you thought I had. I hope this clarifies it. Cheers and Happy editing!Prashanthns (talk) 22:05, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your attention. According to my experience, your reply was not at all slow. I am not exactly a veteran editor but I have seen enough of WP to understand that a disproportionate amount of vandalism comes from IP's. I was trying to be jocularly good-natured at the end of my first post, but tone-of-voice doesn't always come across. Thank you for correcting yourself for posterity on my talk page, and thank you also for reverting yourself. I didn't revert your changes to the article because I was hoping you would do it. And you know, I may just get myself a username one of these days. All the best. 24.36.35.188 (talk) 22:57, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I really wish you do get that user name. :)We can then form this 'goading IP users coalition' :) (I hope the joke tone comes across) ;) Cheers! Prashanthns (talk) 23:17, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Just for fun, take another look at that MU330 article. Maybe I'll just retire from this place! 24.36.35.188 (talk) 00:00, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't know anything about the band either. That's why I'm going to take your advice and step away from it for awhile. 24.36.35.188 (talk) 00:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Sorry I didn't realise you were like one of us. No need to bother then!! Take care —Preceding unsigned comment added by WorkingInPartnershipProgramme (talk • contribs) 08:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Svayam bhagavan

Hi. The reason I removed the Krishnology section is because I thought it was beyond the scope of the original article title: Svayam Bhagavan. I put Krishnology in the See also link section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.194.99.134 (talk) 11:42, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I understand that, but since the discussion page for this article is quite active, it was my suggestion that you discuss it there. However, if you feel, it is not necessary, that is your call, and I shall not revert again. Thanks for understanding, and please leave an edit summary explaining your action. Cheers and happy editing. Prashanthns (talk) 11:45, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Thanks

You are welcome :) AVand^talk_contribs 12:04, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

• No problems - thanks for the barnstar =) xenocidic (talk) 12:38, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

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The protection

You're welcome. :) Acalamari 16:48, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

reg Adrian Monck

but if the subject has lied about himself why would you assist him in this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.103.168.78 (talk) 07:44, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your note on my talk page. Please do understand that when you edit biographies of living persons, it is important to conform to Wikipedia's policy on biography of living persons. If you are changing the course of this article itself by changing his designation and work details, it is important to provide references or discuss on the article's talk page. Thanks. Prashanthns (talk) 07:55, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Saswata Sanyal

You said:

The assumption that the editor who created the article is the same as the subject 'Saswata Sanyal' may not be true. It looks like somebody who know the subject or his work well has created the article. Googling his name provides some good links to his entreprenuerial work and he may be notable (marginally? if there is anything such!). Anyways, if the article is still around in 2 days, I will work on it and make it encyclopediac.

And saswata, there is no such institution as 'wikipedia decider' or any such, who will decide if this article may be kept. Wikipedia is just built by people like you, me and Shovon! So, be bold and make this article encyclopediac if you can. Read Wikipedia's manual of style and pay special attention to citing references. DO see these links, and I hope they help you in improving the article. Do not get disheartened though if the article is deleted. Take it in your stride and re-create it if necessary AFTER reading the above links and complying with the policy. Hope this helps. Prashanthns (talk) 09:13, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Splash - tk 14:46, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

A Belgian physician-naturalist?

Dear Prashanths,

Thank you for your message. As you can see from my userpage, I have a good friend, Ivo Pauwels, a well-known geen author and journalist, whose office is Antwerpen-Berchem. We will next month with a small group of garden freaks visit some interesting gardens in the centre of France.

Best regards, --Réginald (To reply) 08:56, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

My reply here on your talk page. Prashanthns (talk) 09:53, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Beagle

My edit to beagle was not vandalism, and I think you shouldn't go around reverting people's posts without trying to contact them first. If you revert another of my posts I will report you to the admins. 167.1.119.100 (talk) 04:35, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello. Thanks for your note on my talk page, albeit with a threatening tone! Please note that this edit of yours that I reverted was definitely vandalism. It is however nice that you have not continued to indulge in such actions. It is not really my intention to pick at you by the reversion. I am only trying to keep the article clean, and we can do this together. Do give a thought on contributing constructively and we can make life easy for each other.

If, however you still think you want to report me, you may at the Admin Notice board here. Prashanthns (talk) 08:53, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Calm down

lol I was just having some fun, testing your attentiveness when I created the I hate Wikipedia page anyway. so just... chillax ok? lol :P —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tentimesone (talk • contribs) 11:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice to chill. I will, but please do NOT test attentiveness, as you claim of anybody. We are not trying to waste each other's time here, right. We are all here to do something constructive. So, I hope we both can contribute constructively, rather than test each other's attentiveness. That said, Cheers and Happy editing!:)Prashanthns (talk) 12:21, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

Many thanks for the barnstar - I was just quietly fixing some disambiguation links and found an interesting article that needed categories! DuncanHill (talk) 15:07, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Edit of nine

Hello. Do you know of any good format/link guidance books on site? There are plural POLICY books but fewer of format. Many policy but not format. THANKS!

Zippycup (talk) 21:46, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

You will find good pointers at Wikipedia Manual of Style. Prashanthns (talk) 21:54, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

free yon

can you delete that page for me i'm sooo lost here thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monkey7999 (talk • contribs) 22:04, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure. I have blanked the page and placed this templage {{db-author}}. An administrator will soon come by and do the needful. Meanwhile, I hope you dont get too discouraged and continue to follow the policy as per the links placed on your talk page. You will soon be able to produce good articles! Cheers and happy editing!Prashanthns (talk) 22:12, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Edit of ten

Thank you for style link it was VERY very useful! Cheers for the help! Zippycup (talk) 12:12, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Cheers. Prashanthns (talk) 12:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:Myanmar/Burma

Hi, thanks for dropping a couple of lines. However, if you see the IP users talk page, I have given him/her enough opportunities to discuss and sort it out. In any case, although the IP user has been guilty of 3RR within the past 24 hours, I would not have done so. Thanks. Shovon (talk) 17:19, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Watching

Glad it was nothing serious! DuncanHill (talk) 21:42, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Burma/Myanmar

Thanks! Hope this pleases all. Shovon (talk) 12:39, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thank you kindly for the barnstar! ... discospinster _talk 21:22, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

No prob.  :)

The way that article was written made me think it was a memorial of some sort. I'm glad you were able to clean it up! Much obliged for the note. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 22:28, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you very much

I thank you for your correction on the article about Vittorio Culpo. Indeed my english is not so good, and I was actually seeking somedy to translate it in correct english ! It's difficult for me to use this site (I do not understand everything) but I do my best !

Thanks again.

Olivier Mirefleurs —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.69.183.201 (talk) 23:31, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

No prob

No offense taken in marking the article for speedy delete... we are all just trying to make wiki a little better. Thanks for responding and letting me know that you reverted your recommendation. (D.c.camero (talk) 23:52, 9 May 2008 (UTC))

Your VandalSniper application

Good day, and thank you for applying to use the counter-vandalism tool VandalSniper. I am pleased to inform you that your application has been accepted, and you are now approved to use the tool. You are now welcome to download the program - and be sure to read the features guide, if you have not already done so. Please bear in mind that VandalSniper is a powerful program, and that misuse may result in your access being withdrawn by a moderator. Don't hesitate to get in touch if you have any questions, and once again welcome to VandalSniper! Kind regards, Anthøny 15:39, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks and replied on talk page. Finally, dont need to log back in to Windows for RC patrol!Prashanthns (talk) 15:41, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Unsectioned(Title created by me)

What part of 'John W. Scherer' doesn't exist don't you understand? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.31.26.94 (talk) 15:02, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Blanking content from Wikipedia is considered vandalism. Do not do it again. Prashanthns (talk) 15:05, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Replied

Hello, Prashanthns. You have new messages at The ed17's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

the_ed17 15:10, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for removing vandalism from my talk page. BigDunc^Talk 18:02, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Pleasure!CHeers. Prashanthns (talk) 18:49, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

And from mine! --Orange Mike | Talk 19:53, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

It looks like he was blocked mere seconds after he vandalized my pages. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:57, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Cheers!Prashanthns (talk) 19:58, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Looks to me like the date/time stamp on his vandalism and the indefinite block are identical: 14:45, 12 May 2008. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:05, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm....odd, must be something to do with my time preference settings, perhaps. His edits are dated "Revision as of 01:15, 13 May 2008 (edit) (undo)" while the block is dated "...the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. MBisanz talk 19:46, 12 May 2008 (UTC)" for me!Anyways, nothing to be bothered about, I guess!Cheers. Prashanthns (talk) 20:12, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

A Land Without a People For a People With a Land

I disagree, this article is a candidate for a speedy deletion. I have given a reason why on the talk page. Please look at it before you remove the tag again. annoynmous 22:18, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Replied here. Prashanthns (talk) 22:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay so what's the proper criteria I can add. I'm not that knowledgeable on the deletion policy. The point I was trying to make was that the editor who originally created this article has been revealed to be an unscrupolous sockpuppet who is now been banned from wikipedia indefinetly. The way I see this article, and many others that he has created, are tainted and should be removed because they were part of a concerted POV pushing campaign. What is the right way to compalin about this. anoynmous 22:36, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

You then have 2 options. Instead of trying to get it deleted, why dont you improve the article? Be bold and go ahead and edit out or change the tone of what you think is strong POV. Isnt that better? If you are however, still bent upon deletion, this is definitely not a speedy deletion candidate. You could try at Wikipedia Articles for Deletion, but be sure to read up on the deletion policy. Note that you will need to justify your proposal for deletion based on the content of the article, not on the fact that it was created by a sock. The article, I see has also been altered significantly later. Hope this helps. Cheers. Prashanthns (talk) 22:43, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Madonna

I'm sorry but there's no bulgaria chart. it's a fake unofficial chart —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.134.73.214 (talk) 10:26, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Ya. Saw that and rm my msg on your talk page! Good spotting. Cheers. Prashanthns (talk) 10:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Stop Deleting Britney´s peak position

Please stop deleting the peak positions of Break The Ice an Piece of me ( Britney Spears), if we put sources why you do not want to keep them, they are officials charts too, please stop doing this.--Albes29 (talk) 10:55, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Uh? Could you please provide the link to the article you are talking about? Prashanthns (talk) 11:22, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

WBOSITG's RfA

Shock is understandable, and the honour is incidental....but, the result was most deservedly monumental! (A bad effort at good rhyme ;) Cheers!Prashanthns (talk) 21:08, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

recent edit to image

I'm trying to delete this image as I uploaded it by mistake. If you can do that then please do.

Thanks

Afrobob88—Preceding unsigned comment added by Afrobob88 (talk • contribs)

Please add {{db-request}} on the image page. An admin will come around and delete it. I saw that the blanking of the page earlier was by an IP, and hence restored it. Please log in and edit, so that your actions will be identifiable. Leave a note if you need any further clarifications. Prashanthns (talk) 22:57, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

hi

how are you???chris (talk) 23:25, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I am fine. Thanks. Have left some cookies for you at your talk page. :). Prashanthns (talk) 23:50, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Travis Keller Page

My edit was completely correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.50.165.99 (talk) 23:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Any sources? Please provide sources especially when editing articles about living persons. Prashanthns (talk) 23:32, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I've seen him at gay bars. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.50.165.99 (talk) 23:43, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but you can take that information to your blog. Not on wikipedia. Please see WP:OR and WP:CITE. Prashanthns (talk) 23:46, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Reversion of talk page vandalism

You're welcome! – ukexpat (talk) 00:01, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Section

Hey there, skull and crescent was just a mix up and I got the OK to do so, these society pages have alot of competition with rival groups, and we all agreed it is best to start out with a clean slate. Many people have put alot of work into getting these soceity groups right, I think you understand,starting out clean is the best way to go- let me finish, it will be done soon. thanks a bunchSocietyfinalclubs (talk) 00:15, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I am not going to further come to that page at all, so dont worry and edit away! But, you perhaps misunderstood me. I again suggest that you note the following two issues.

• Removing CSD templates yourself saying "An admin permitted me" - As I said here, you dont need ADMIN permission for this. All admins will carefully see the article and will go through any justification by you on the TALK PAGE. It is generally not acceptable to remove CSD tags of article you created yourself.

• Removing talk page comments of an article, especially since it is relevant to the said article. I dont think you should do that. What is a clean slate anyways? Just because an article was once notified for speedy and the remnants of this on the talk page are perfectly fine, I think and may be left intact. Moreover, what you want to remove from the talk page are comments by other editors, and I hope you will confer with them on this. Thats it from me! Happy editing. Prashanthns (talk) 00:20, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Editing too fast!WikiWiznerd (talk) 00:50, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Cheers. Go a bit slow in the beginning! Prashanthns (talk) 00:53, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Annoynmous

Okay, sorry I forgot to log in before I edited, it was an honest mistake.annoynmous 01:47, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Prashanthns (talk) 01:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Block of Societyfinalclubs

Looking at the talk page, it appears that more than one of us was working on the AIV report for Societyfinalclubs (talk · contribs), so I wanted to drop you a note explaining my research and subsequent actions. Based on the 3RR warning for Talk:Sacred Order of Skull and Crescent that was issued to this editor at 19:21 [1] and their continued blanking of the page at 19:36 and 20:25, I blocked the editor for 12 hours. Please let me know if you have any questions or issues. --Kralizec! (talk) 01:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

No issues at all. I am sure you have acted in accordance with policy and you must have applied your judgement, which is absolutely fair. I was just having an uncomfy feeling with giving him a block, when he was making a constructive effort at improving the article itself and had no other vandal history, save this 3RR. I was rather hoping for a talk page protection and an engagement with him regarding policy on blanking talk pages and being transparent. For me, he was just a little too bold! Anyways, I concede that this was in the grey zone and is left to the judgement of the admin who comes by. :) Thanks for the detailed note. I really appreciate it. Prashanthns (talk) 02:03, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh...and just to clarify, I am not an admin and was not working on the AIV. Prashanthns (talk) 02:07, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

No, no, no ... thank you for your hard work! Your comment at AIV [2] was one of the contributing factors for my relatively short 3RR block, and I really liked the note you left at the user's talk page [3]. We need more folks like you around here! --Kralizec! (talk) 02:15, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

:) After a long night of meeting all kinds of people, happy to hear that! Cheers. Prashanthns (talk) 02:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

(reply to your comment on my talk page) Yes, it's an annoying feeling to realize you've been trolled. Happening to me a lot, recently. Still, try to keep assuming the best in each fresh instance. We'll see how things work out. --barneca (talk) 18:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Help!!

You have been very helpful before, please can I ask for your help again. One of the administrators (I think his name was Phil) has decided that this page was 'blatant advertisement' and he deleted most of the changes I was trying to make. What I was trying to do was insert references rather than external links. I don't think this can be called advertising as I was trying to provide references to some very good tools available out there but about which people around the world may not know as well as they could through wiki; these are all tools available for free download and are developed as it appears by very well reputed people. They have offered the tools free, so there is no one going to make any money out of it and so it cannot be considered advertising.

I am not able to make any more changes. You probably know Phil. I am not able to 'talk' to him . I have tried to look for his name again but cannot find it. Is it possible for you to arrange to let me make the changes. Thanking you in anticipation.WorkingInPartnershipProgramme (talk) 10:28, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. :) With regards to your note to the above individual, I just wanted to let you know that judging by edit history, I believe he or she has already re-registered and can be reached at User talk:Bonhomie1. Since I blocked the username, I watchlisted the page in case the editor wished to respond, and so I happened to see your note. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 17:14, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh! Thanks for letting me know! I hope he is better in touch with policy now. He seems to be a wonderful editor, blithely navigating in that grey zone of WP:COI and WP:MOS, of course with good intentions! ;) Thanks for letting me know. Will leave a msg on his talk page. Cheers. Prashanthns (talk) 17:19, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. :) I know that the learning curve can be steep for some new users, and I appreciate your efforts to help him or her assimilate. --18:31, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Oops. One too many tildes there! I didn't mean to be anonymous. :D --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 20:26, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah! Dint know too many tildes do that anywys!:) Prashanthns (talk) 20:28, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Your message of today 14 May

You are really a very thoughtful person I must say. Your tone in your message was very encouraging and affectionate. I am touched by it and taking a cue from you I will carry on attempting to do some good work by bringing to the attention of the vast number of wiki users this very good and noble programme out there which can help people in this world more widely. Wiki itself is the example to follow as it helps millions of people around the world. I have so often used it for some very good purposes, don't want to bore you with the list but you can imagine the range. I will write to Phil, as I saw the link to him a little while ago. Best wishes. Bonhomie1 (talk) 20:09, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Support the Lincolnshire Independence Party.

Would you like to learn about our policies? Notts33 (talk) 19:50, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure I would. I am sure many would. But DO NOT use Wikipedia articles for campaigning. Prashanthns (talk) 19:51, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

But you don't understand. We need independence, because the rest of the country tires to suppress us. We must fight for our freedom. Viva la revolution!! Notts33 (talk) 19:54, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

All the best. My support is with you. You will soon be blocked if you continue to spill your revolution all over Wikipedia. Cheers. Prashanthns (talk) 19:55, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thanks for the barnstar! I think its my first, so I will cherish it :)

One little question: what did you mean by "A land 6\&*^(*&^(*"? Maybe it's too long of a title, eh? :) nneonneo ^talk 21:06, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Hope you dint mind that! I hardly could say the name correctly. :) I really appreciated your tone and handling of the matter. Cheers. Prashanthns (talk) 21:08, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Use of rollback

Please remember that rollback should only be used to revert blatant vandalism. Reverts like this should be made the traditional way. Using rollback sends the message "that edit was so worthless that it doesn't even justify an edit summary in reverting it". Thanks! Stifle (talk) 10:41, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I usually do the rollback with care and either undo or edit directly with a summary unless it was vandalism. In this case, the edit removed whole sections from the infobox without justification. The whole list of awards was removed, which is why I reverted it. I did think it was vandalism. In any case, I guess it could be argued otherwise in case of this edit. Your caution noted. Thanks and cheers. Prashanthns (talk) 10:50, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Wonder if you saw

this. Did not get any acknowledgement from you if not a reply. So, reposting again here. Cheers. Prashanthns (talk) 14:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

I didn't think that a reply was needed as you didn't ask me anything. Thanks for dropping by. Stifle (talk) 15:08, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

uh...odd. Prashanthns (talk) 18:50, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again!!

Thanks again. Can you tell me how to respond to your post in an ongoing coversation such as the one you were having with moonriddengirl without editing that section (you said that editing a section is rude). Bonhomie1 (talk) 05:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Bonhomie. No. You can go right ahead and edit the section and leave a message. Just put a colon (:) for each new thread. That means that there will be a colon in front of each new response. This creates a thread and makes the subsequent responses readable. See this response of mine in the wiki, if you want. Cheers. Prashanthns (talk) 08:44, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Just to further clarify, I said, that leaving messages or editing the user page of others is considered rude. Like you did here, you should respond on talk pages of the user and not their user page. Cheers. Prashanthns (talk) 08:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

In case, you are also wondering why I responded here to your questions and left a link for you to my talk page, this is just a practice to keep the conversation together in one place. Different editors do it differently. Some of them leave copies of the whole conversation in both the user's talk pages, and others just respond to the query on the other talk page. You can just choose to do any of this based on your preferences. The template I left on your page can be generated by typing {{talkback|Bonhomie1}}. Cheers. Prashanthns (talk) 08:50, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Large qtty of sox

Prashanthns, For a while, we all did. I assume you saw Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Societyfinalclubs, and the extraordinary number of socks he has been using?

I'm on break for a while, perhaps I'll run into you again in a few weeks when I return. --barneca (talk) 18:46, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah! I did and was both astonished and disturbed that all my good faith was in vain!:( Meanwhile, enjoy your break!Cheers. Prashanthns (talk) 18:48, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: User:Zippycup

I just told him to elaborate. If he doesn't, I will take it to ANI. It's bad enough with all the vandals saying "WAAAA My edit saying that you are supposed to render a military salute while pledging allegience to the flag was constructive" without people making cryptic accusations of sockpuppetry. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 19:57, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

:). He's also accused another admin of sp!Pasted diff on his talk page. Prashanthns (talk) 20:00, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

This isn't about having the last laugh (holds up head in noble pose) It's about, umm, saving..._{no, the world's future is not at stake} Ummmm.............. It's about... _{Oh, all right} It is about having the last laugh. Just in a civil, wikiloving way... :P J.delanoy^gabs_adds 20:38, 18 May 2008 (UTC) (sorry, couldn't resist.....)

Waiting...Prashanthns (talk) 20:44, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: article Gerd Honsik

The source is mentioned in the edit summary. Since the whole article is already a (rough) translation of the German article, as stated in the section "Source", you can consider this an update to the article. If you demand so, I can recite all the sources mentioned in the original article, but I doubt these will be very helpful to you as they are mostly in German language. -- 86.56.237.43 (talk) 20:25, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm....Sure. Thanks for the recitation offer. I will pass on that. Go ahead as long as you are aware of WP:BLP. :) CHeers. Prashanthns (talk) 20:28, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

The relevant source on Gerd Honsik's mostly South-Tyrol-related terrorist activities is the following publication: Die nationale Internationale. In: Wolfgang Purtscheller (Hrsg.): Die Ordnung, die sie meinen. »Neue Rechte« in Österreich. Picus Verlag, Wien 1994, ISBN 3-85452-256-8. Unfortunately, it's not available online, otherwise I would have provided you with a link. HTH. -- 86.56.237.43 (talk) 20:45, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh! Then please cite it! Citing foreign language publications shouldnt be a problem...and no hard feelings! Prashanthns (talk) 20:46, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

See Citing non-english sources. Prashanthns (talk) 20:49, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

The aggregation of an article about Gerd Honsik in said publication is my edit. I'm not going to manually translate and type in about 10 pages of printed text, thankyouverymuch. With the mentioned source, the edit's content is 100 % verifiable, just not instantly verifiable by you. -- 86.56.237.43 (talk) 21:01, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

There has been a misunderstanding of what I said!! Please calm down. I was suggesting that you cite that book! NOt that you translate and quote it!You can reply right here if you please. I am sorry if what I said was in anyway ambigious. I was only trying to help you by providing a guideline that allows you to provide a foreign language book as a REFERENCE for CITING only Prashanthns (talk) 21:04, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I already mentioned the book, its ISBN is 3-85452-256-8, its editor is Wolfgang Purtscheller, the title of the book is "Die Ordnung, die sie meinen. »Neue Rechte« in Österreich.", it was published in Picus Verlag, in Vienna, in 1994. What do you want me to do? I know that the information that I added to the Gerd Honsik article is factually correct, because I have the book laying on my desk beside me, the very same book is also there as reference in the German article about Gerd Honsik. Shall I redo the edit, adding the mentioned book as a reference? Sorry if it my last message sounded too harsh, it's just that I never before came in contact with somebody who was _so_ skeptical of what I edited in an article. :-) Cheers, 86.56.237.43 (talk) 21:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I have undone myself based on our discussion. Hope that restores some of the faith lost in me. :). What I was referring to was an in-text citation like I just added into the article. Please feel free to leave a small note about it on the article's talk page as it is a German reference. If possible refer to the policy I referred to you earlier on providing non-english references, and if possible, do leave an english translation of the book title (not the book itself!:)) in the reference. Cheers. I will copy this exchange on to my talk page too so as to centralize the discussion.Prashanthns (talk) 21:35, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Satnami

My apologies, i find CSD has a variety of missing tags that should be there. ah well. The main intention is to get it all off wikipedia; the user involved has created that page three times at slightly different addresses. i've final warned him, but i'm mainly just trying to clear up after him in case he doesnt get the message. Ironholds (talk) 22:20, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

No apologies called for at all!:) Just informing you thats all. If I knew about this being a re-creation, wouldnt have bothered. Will go the user's page now and tell him about the full article being there, and ask him not to bother with this. Prashanthns (talk) 22:22, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Excellent, thank you! and thanks for giving me a heads-up, too. Always nice to meet kind editors. Ironholds (talk) 22:24, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Mutual. :)Prashanthns (talk) 22:25, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Priory School Edit

As you have sorted the Lewes Priory School page before can I ask you to see if the latest edit is allowed to stay or not. I feel being from Priory School then if we change it we will just be accused of bias and a revert war will break out. I don't feel it is an encylopedia worthy entry and it is full of bias. Many thanks PriorySchool (talk) 11:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your note here. I felt that the information you added into a separate section did not need a separate secition and integrated it into a previous one. Please see talk page of the article for full justification. Cheers.Prashanthns (talk) 11:30, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I had confused you for that IP editor who added that information about the headmaster into the article. Yes, it was most definitely not encyclopediac, and has been removed. Even though there is an obvious conflict of interest in your case, there is nothing preventing you from using the talk page to generate consensus for any edits to the article. It is also nice that you declare your COI and generate talk page consensus for your edits to the article. In future, you can explore that possibility. Cheers. Prashanthns (talk) 15:25, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Wonder if that CSD is ok

On Personja, you tagged db-WP:NOT dictionary, but the first non-criterion on the CSD page is this (that it is not a CSD). While I agree with the tag, just bringing this to your attention. Cheers. Prashanthns (talk) 19:52, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• Of course you are right on this one, and in fact i knew that criteria when i tagged it with a custom DB. The reason why i still tagged is to prevent a long administrative traject either trough PROD (Untagging is legal, and takes 5 days), or trough AFD (Zero chance the article would survive, AFD often gets backlogged). In short, if i am absolutely certain that an article is going to get deleted, i apply the snowball clause (Related to WP:IAR) to the article and tag it for fast removal par CSD. While it is not 100% procedure, i believe that in this case i can legally ignore the "Dont tag for WP:NOT" rule. Thanks for watching the rules so closely though, its always better to drop a note then simply letting it be on cases like this :). Kind regards, Excirial ^{(Talk,Contribs)} 20:03, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Sounds logical as long you use your discretion. I hope my comment was not 'condescending in tone'. If it was, totally unintentional. Cheers.Prashanthns (talk) 20:08, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• Actually, those custom DB tags are rather rare (1/150 tags i estimate) and as i said, i only use them if i am certain i won't create a mess. As for the 'condescending in tone' i didnt think it was, after i looked up the meaning of the word condescending that is. :) Excirial ^{(Talk,Contribs)} 20:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Cheers! Keep up the good work. Prashanthns (talk) 20:38, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

new

I dont understand. is the page not up your guidelines still? thanksDave Trumfio (talk) 21:59, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

What you have been warned about is "Removal of CSD templates". An admin will come by and verify if it suits guidelines, and he may even decide to keep it, IF it does. However, removing CSD tags from articles that you created yourself is considered vandalism. Hope this clarifies. Prashanthns (talk) 22:01, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: personal attacks

Thanks for rm-ing his personal attack. Although I did find it somewhat amusing. So now I have been called a "Wiki Nazi" and "Unity scum". What's next? J.delanoy^gabs_adds 15:09, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

he he. Repulsive this whole thing. Cheers. Prashanthns (talk) 15:11, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Unity Apostles

Hello Prashanthns,

You seem like a reasonable user and as far as we can tell you are not a Unity Apostle. When the time comes you must not stand by the side of Nick or others. They are sectarians who want to destroy are religion, society and very country. Thy wish to keep over 5 million people trapped in a country to which they do not belong. They are just nodes in a greater picture. The Unity Apostles censor all forms of media from telling the truth about Lincolnshire, it has been this way since time began.

Within a month, at most not only this message but also any record of it in your history will have vanished. The same can be said of all that has been posted with Zippy, Qualdiam, Lorrence and many others from our body. I do not ask you to believe me, because what I am saying is unbelievable. However look back in, a month, 3 months, a year. You will find no trace of this message or any other info you have heard relating to LIP and the Unity apostles. When this happens, maybe as a responsible member of society you should start asking some questions.

‘When the stone drops the earth shall quake – silence remembers’

Qualaloopo (talk) 15:20, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

You are right on all counts. This is unbelievable. Do not indulge in sockpuppetry. You seem to be a sock of User:Notts33. Prashanthns (talk) 15:33, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Don't listen to him about the unity apostles. They don't even exist. He's trying to mislead you. BTW - this guy has a sockpuppet called Adidasnike619 - just thought you'd like to know 86.141.15.129 (talk) 15:24, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Don't listen to him. He's just sore because Adidas PAed him for harrassing me. Imperial Star Destroyer (talk) 23:14, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Please do not bring any more gyaan about Unity Apostles to my talk page. Enjoy your mutual disagreements(even agreements) on this topic elsewhere. I have nothing to do with this topic. Prashanthns (talk) 14:10, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Exactly. Unity apostles don't exist, and shouldn't be mentioned hereafter 86.135.198.100 (talk) 17:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

What is your problem?

I'm only trying to help. Arrogant & Intransigent (talk) 15:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

If you look at the section you restored, it is referring to an issue which has already been dealt with. So why do we need to trouble Ryulong (talk · contribs) with it? Arrogant & Intransigent (talk) 16:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

It is not appropriate to remove somebody else's talk page comments, even if it the matter is settled. The talk page comment you removed was a discussion between two other people. I wouldnt have 'sounded so stern' if it was the first time you did that. Cheers. Prashanthns (talk) 17:39, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Article on consciousness technology: Not a hoax!

Re.: article on consciousness technology

This article is most certainly NOT a hoax! Far from that: consciousness technology™ is one of the many new ways to help people survive the current psychospiritual crisis that is almost causing our world to die in a large-scale ecological disaster. I will list the most relevant literature here: Stanislav Grof, Realms Of The Human Unconscious (Observations from LSD research). New York, 1975. ibidem, Beyond The Brain - Birth, Death And Transcendence In Psychotherapy. Albany, 1985. Lawrence LeShan, The Medium, The Mystic, And The Physicist - Toward A General Theory Of The Paranormal. Several editions; published in 1975. Lloyd DeMause, The Emotional Life Of Nations. New York, 2002. His Journal of Psychohistory (in its 35th year now) and website are quite worthwhile.

Furthermore (just a small selection of other relevant literature): Thomas Kuhn, The Structure Of Scientific Revolutions. Chicago, 1962. Paul Feyerabend, Erkenntnis für freie Menschen. Frankfurt am Main, 1979. Hans Selye, The Stress Of Life. Groundbreaking study on the long-term effects of stress on psychophysical health; published in 1956.

As Einstein already knew: "It is the theory that decides what we can observe." And yes, we DO work on a not-for-profit base, very often even free of charge, trying to compensate for this as much as possible by letting other people and/or institutions that can afford it, to pay more. However, even then never ever in an excessive way. And, believe it or not: it works, too! Machteld1 (talk) 21:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC) (Machteld Lammens, consciousness technologist - http://www.myspace.com/machteld1)

Hello Machteld. Thank you for your detailed note listing references to the article Consciousness technology. Please note the following in response.

• It is quite obvious that you thoroughly enjoy your work with this organisation, and thats a great thing. I mean NO value judgement at all to you, your work or your organisation when I tagged the page for deletion or put up a hoax tag on the page. What I was trying to emphasize is that I found no verifiable and reliable sources through an internet search. This was the only thing I could resort to, as you had provided a youtube link and a myspace page, which do NOT conform to Wikipedia policy on references and external links. If you feel there are such references (see the links on the wikipedia verifability and reliable sources that I have pasted earlier), please post them in the article. I or any of the other editors will remove the tag on seeing this.
• I further encourage you to see WP:SPAM which lays out the guidelines on what is counted as promotional. Also, the articles CANNOT present a particular point of view on a subject as per the WP:NPOV policy, which you must follow for articles. The article must be built based on the notability of the subject itself and must rely on secondary sources (not from the organisation itself)
• You declare above that you work for an organisation involved in the subject of the article. It is nice that you declare this, but this may be in disagreement with the policy on conflict of interest, which may be the reason why the article is full of a particular point of view on the subject.

I hope this clarifies your points raised. DO read the links provided and if necessary, reduce the article down to a few lines and begin working upwards from that, rather than have a long essay on the topic. Of course, these are only my suggestions. Cheers. Prashanthns (talk) 21:59, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

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