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Baghochia dynasty

Hello Pravin, The article has been based on various books and sources which mentions Baghochia dynasty as rulers of Hathwa Raj. The book of Anand A Young "The limited Raj" mentions Mayur Bhat as common ancestor to both the raj and that he had 4 wifes from different casts, one of his son from Kshatriya wife founded Manjhauli raj where as other from babhan wife were ancestors of the present day kings of hathwa raj. G.N.Dutt and Asiatic Society books mentions genealogy of the kings of hathwa raj and mentions Raja bir Sen as the first raja who acquired the raj by helping Kosla Maharaja defeat the Sakyas. G.N.Dutt mentions Bir Sen as a babhan in his book on the History of Hathwa Raj. If you can please give me some reference, articles, books. I would be more than happy to add and elaborate the page. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rai1112 (talk • contribs) 05:21, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Namaskar ! It is very nice to hear from you . I also have read all books described by you and also Vishen Vans Darpan and Vishen Vans Vatika. In all book you will find only most probable assumption only and no one has been described strong evidence about of Vishen Rajput origin. From last one year I am also in research about Vishen Vans and going to publish one book about this subject . If you have read the personality of Mayur Bhatt in any book,that is too much confusing and the all description like fictional story.After having research in many books and the prevailing culture of Vishen Rajputs and also of Bhumihar of Hathwa-raj I come to conclude following.

It was Malla desh having capital Kushinagar of which the rulers claim to be sons of Chandra Ketu who get' Malla title'( as described in balmiki ramayana )who was son of God Laxmana. In around 600BC ,In this dynasty King Vishwasen ruled this same Malla desh. later same territory become Mall Mahajanpad and capitals decided into two parts.Kushinagar and Pava.

One poet or sage who was migrated from Karnataka Name may be Mayur Bhatta married three wives including one Malla princess and their son may be name Bir Sen stablished Hathwa-raj taking all culture of maternal side like title Malla and gotra vats.They were actually brahma-khatriya (or Bhumihar ).They were brave and powerful and their sons stablish many kingdoms like Hathwa-raj,sena- dynasty of bangal,Suket and Mandi kingdom and many more.

The 86th generation of King Vishwasen I.e.Bhim Malla stablish Majhauli Raj and from Majhauli Raj many more estates stablished like Mankapur,Kunda, Madhuwan,Unnao,bhadri etc.This Vishen Rajputs strongly claims to be sons of Chandra Ketu and of King Vishwa Sen and not of Bir Sen.

If Mayur Bhatta is father of this Rajputs and the Bhumihar than they are Bhai Bhai and should be of same status but the Vishen Rajputs of Majhauli Raj maintains very high status as compare to Hathwa Raj Bhumihars.So it is not possible that the both generations have same father.In hindu society,if father is of one caste like brahman or kshtriya than his all sons follows the father side culture and not of mother side. If Vishen Rajputs are also of brahman father than how could they got good status in their society .Only being kshatriya mother,that is not enough to hindu sociy to accept as good kshtriya. In many books that is mentioned that Mayur Bhatt had married the princess of Ayodhya,then why should their sons write Malla title' as kings of Ayodhya does not write Malla title' and only the rulers of Malla desh use to write Malla title' who are only one branch of Ayodhya. Majhauli Raj present generation is running 121 generation at present and The Hathwa-raj generation is slightly smaller than them. If Mayur Bhatt was powerful personally of that time than why that is not mentioned by magadh kings or koshala kings or other neighbors of that time.

So these all evidences shows that Vishen Rajputs forefather is different than forefather of Hathwa-raj Bhumihar but in past they have blood relation and Hathwa-raj rulers has adopted maternal title and gotra.

Please let me know which generation of Hathwa-raj is running now.

As all books written about origin of Vishen Rajput as Mayur Bhatt is mentioned only in books but not cited by prevailing neighbor hood estates, that shows he was not such big personality but have married one brahman,one kshtriya,one Kurmi and from kshtriya side the forefather of Hathwa-raj take birth. Pravin Singh (talk) 12:53, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

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