User talk:Quesotiotyo
Hi, Quesotiotyo. I see that you are tagging a lot of nonsense articles for speedy deletion. Great work! However, I've also noticed that you do this by blanking an article. I would like to ask you not to do this. When we have to decide on whether an article should be deleted or not, we need to be able to see immediately for instance if someone is really notable or not. If the article is blanked, we need to delve through the article's history. The most convenient way would simply be to add the relevant tag to the top of the article, leaving the content that needs to be deleted visible. It makes deleting articles a lot easier, which means we'll be able to do a lot more in the same amount of time. Thanks, and keep up the good work! Aecis I'm too busy acting like I'm not naive. 23:25, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
The North Avenue Irregulars
[edit]Hi, while checking through new pages, I noticed that you tagged The North Avenue Irregulars for Speedy Deletion because it was nonsense. A quick check on Google would have shown that this is a 1979 film. Granted, the page as it was had no kind of context, so the casual reader would not have known unless they were familiar with the film, but one should make doubly sure before nominating something for deletion. You might consider trying to improve articles of this nature (or at least adding some context and a stub notice) when you come across them in future. Take care, Martin 23:48, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Typos
[edit]I see you are correcting a lot of typos, I made a list of typos to help users like you find many typos. User:Uziel302/sandbox. Keep up the good work! Uziel302 (talk) 10:20, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi, I think you misinterpreted the categories you removed. E.g. Category:Directors of Best Animated Short Academy Award winners doesn't mean that those directors won an Oscar, but that they directed a movie which won an Oscar. So e.g. Nicole Van Goethem or Gene Deitch were correctly placed in those categories. Can you please look again at your removals and undo those were the category was correct? Fram (talk) 07:20, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello there,
- I have to disagree with your interpretation. The category is clearly intended for people who received an Academy Award for their work as a director on the winning short film. Category:Best Animated Short Academy Award winners is the main subcategory under Category:Academy Award winners because the short is what is being honored, and Category:Directors of Best Animated Short Academy Award winners is for the directors who accepted the award on behalf of the film. The director is not always the recipient; for many years it went to the producer of the short. The Academy's rules have since changed so that the person or persons nominated can be the director, producer, or both. This irregularity has caused some confusion; Dušan Vukotić and Pete Burness were both described as having won an Academy Award when neither has (I see now that Nicole Van Goethem's article also has this mistake...would you please be sure to correct that?).
- If you would like, here is a Wikidata query for all of the Oscar-winning animated shorts and their directors, with a star denoting the directors who received the award: https://w.wiki/3Gsv.
- I hope that clears things up.
- --Quesotiotyo (talk) 20:16, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- No, that is not clear at all. If someone has directed an Academy Award winning short animated film, that is clearly a major event in their career, it defines these people, sets them apart from the many others who haven't achieved this. Whether they have been handed the Oscar or not is not important and is not what the category name claims (the category should then be named "recipients" or "winners" of the award, not "directors of award-winning movies"). Not having an Oscar category for Van Goethem or Deitch is just wrong. Fram (talk) 07:12, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences has a strict set of rules which specifies who is eligible to receive each award. The rules for the most recent ceremony can be found here: https://www.oscars.org/sites/oscars/files/93aa_rules.pdf. Specifically for animated shorts, it is stated on page 31 that "The recipient of the Oscar will be the individual most directly responsible for the concept and the creative execution of the film. In the event that more than one individual has been directly and importantly involved in creative decisions, a second statuette may be awarded. However, no more than two awards will be given to a winning production." This is expounded upon further in the Short Film FAQs (https://www.oscars.org/sites/oscars/files/93aa_short_guidelines.pdf), which clarifies that "A maximum of two individuals may be named as possible nominees for a short film. Everyone with a director or producer credit must sign off in agreement on the designated nominees when submitting.".
- Again, these rules have changed over the decades, but what has remained constant is that the Best Animated Short Oscar is presented to one or two specific individuals on behalf of their work on the winning film. Historically, the producer of the short was seen as having played the largest role in the realization of the film, but the Academy eventually decided that the director is just as responsible if not more so and should be eligible for the honor as well. Compare this to the Best Picture Oscar, which has always been given to the producers, production company, or film studio that created the film; unless the director of a Best Picture was also a credited producer, he does not receive an award even though he has undeniably borne a large responsibility for the film (which is why someone like Alfred Hitchcock never won a competitive Oscar, even though his film Rebecca won Best Picture in 1941).
- The Official Academy Awards Database, found at http://awardsdatabase.oscars.org/, contains every person and film that has been nominated for an Academy Award. Please note that neither Van Goethem nor Deitch can be found there; I went ahead and edited the former's article to accurately reflect this. The fact that both have created Oscar-winning shorts remains clearly stated in their articles. A category for individuals with this particular distinction is not necessary.
- Have a nice day!
- --Quesotiotyo (talk) 21:16, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- No, that is not clear at all. If someone has directed an Academy Award winning short animated film, that is clearly a major event in their career, it defines these people, sets them apart from the many others who haven't achieved this. Whether they have been handed the Oscar or not is not important and is not what the category name claims (the category should then be named "recipients" or "winners" of the award, not "directors of award-winning movies"). Not having an Oscar category for Van Goethem or Deitch is just wrong. Fram (talk) 07:12, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
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