User talk:RachelatJTMAT

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (February 2)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Theroadislong (talk) 14:43, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

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February 2023

Your account has been blocked from editing Wikipedia because your username, JTMAT, does not comply with Wikipedia's username policy. Your username is the principal reason for the block. You are welcome to continue editing after you have chosen a new username that complies with Wikipedia's username policy, which is summarized below.

Under Wikipedia's username policy, a username should represent an individual person. It should not: represent a group or organization; be promotional; be misleading (such as indicating possession of special user rights, being a "bot" account - unless approved, or implying that the account has any administrative or "moderator" user rights, or any kind of "power" or "authority" over other users); nor be offensive or otherwise disruptive. However, a username that contains the name of an organization and also identifies you individually, such as "Sara Smith at XYZ Company", "Mark at WidgetsUSA", or "FoobarFan87" is allowed, but not "SEO Manager at XYZ Company". Among others, the guidance on conflict of interest and the policy on paid-contribution disclosure are relevant.

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Thank you. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:45, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

RachelatJTMAT (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Requested username:

RachelatJTMAT (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Request reason:

Apologies for not having the correct username. Can you please change the username of this account to RachelatJTMAT so it complies with the username policy and then unblock this account. Many thanks

Accept reason:

I have renamed your account and will remove the block. Before you edit, please read conflict of interest and paid editing(which includes employment) for information on required formal disclosures. 331dot (talk) 13:55, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (April 5)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to User:RachelatJTMAT/sandbox and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
• If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:37, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

April 2023

Hello RachelatJTMAT. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:RachelatJTMAT. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=RachelatJTMAT|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:37, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi @DoubleGrazing - thanks for your messages and reviewing my submission. I am writing this on behalf of John Taylor MAT - I work for them but I am not being paid specifically for this page submission. Apologies if I have not complied with terms of use - I will do this now as detailed in the above message. I am not trying to deliberately go against your guidelines - I just wish to have this Multi Academy Trust listed on here, as many others already are.

To this end - I do not understand the comment on sources. I have taken all sources relating to the MAT website away, and substantiated using independent Government pages, or Ofsted. Can you please explain why these are not acceptable and what else needs to be done for sourcing to pass guidelines?

Many thanks,

Rachel 82.12.144.112 (talk) 10:58, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi Rachel,

Firstly, please log into your account. Thanks.

Secondly, regarding paid editing, you don't need to be paid expressly to write this article; the fact that you are employed by the organisation which is its subject is enough to put you within the scope of the paid editing rules.

Thirdly, regarding the sources, per WP:GNG we need to see significant coverage in secondary sources, whereas your draft only cites gov't sources which are primary (and one non-gov't one, but it is incorrectly formatted and doesn't actually link into the stated source; in any case, it alone wouldn't be enough).

HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:10, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

HI @DoubleGrazing - apologies I hadn't realised I was logged out. I will put my paid status on my sandbox page, no problem. Apologies I forgot to do this before re-submitting.

Re. sources. I don't have a lot of secondary sources to tag - we don't have papers or books written about us and we don't have a huge amount of news coverage. I will see what else is relevant to put here. I am not just using Government Pages, but also the County Council, Ofsted and the Research Schools Network that are UK wide body for all Research Schools. If this is not enough for us then I have to ask how and why so many Company pages have been listed on here when I can see similar levels of sourcing. I appreciate your time and effort in replying - this is the first page I have written so I am not trying to deliberately break rules.

Thanks, Rachel. RachelatJTMAT (talk) 11:25, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

You say "don't have a lot of secondary sources to tag - we don't have papers or books written about us and we don't have a huge amount of news coverage" that is a VERY strong indication that the academy is not notable in Wikipedia terms. Theroadislong (talk) 11:32, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Gov't pages are primary, whether central or local gov't. That includes Ofsted etc. (the clue is in their website domain, which is on the .gov.uk TLD). As I said, the Research Schools Network source may, or may not, be better, but I couldn't verify it as the citation is incorrectly formatted, and in any case it alone isn't enough to establish notability.

If you don't have secondary sources to cite, as you suggest, then you probably cannot have an article on this subject published in the Wikipedia. Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:33, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Ok - understood. Thanks for taking the time to reply. RachelatJTMAT (talk) 11:35, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

I unblocked you on the understanding that you would comply with WP:COI and WP:PAID. You must do this now. 331dot (talk) 10:52, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi @331dot. Apologies I forgot to do this when I re-sumbitted.

{{paid|user=RachelatJTMAT|employer=John Taylor MAT}}.

I will post this to my main page also.

many thanks,

Rachel RachelatJTMAT (talk) 11:08, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. 331dot (talk) 12:52, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Hello, I noticed that you may have recently made edits while logged out. Please be mindful not to perform controversial edits while logged out, or your account risks being blocked from editing. Please consider reading up on Wikipedia's policy on multiple accounts before editing further. Additionally, making edits while logged out reveals your IP address, which may allow others to determine your location and identity. If this was not your intention, please remember to log in when editing. Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 11:00, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: John Taylor MAT (August 16)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:John Taylor MAT and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
• If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:37, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:John Taylor MAT

Hello, RachelatJTMAT. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "John Taylor MAT".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. ✗plicit 14:33, 16 February 2024 (UTC)