User talk:Ramcoimbatore

Help me!

Please help me with requesting to create an article on helmetdon.in a web site in India.

Ramcoimbatore (talk) 15:21, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

A good place to start in creating a new article is to review this page on creating your first article. A good process to use is Articles for Creation. In order to have an article about this website, you will need to have independent reliable sources (sources not written by or affiliated with the website) that indicate how it meets the notability guidelines for web content(please review).

If you are affiliated with the website, you will need to review the conflict of interest policy and possibly the paid editing policy(if you are paid) If you have any other questions, please ask. You can either post them here, or visit the Teahouse, a place for new users to ask questions. 331dot (talk) 15:25, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Teahouse talkback: you've got messages!

Hello, Ramcoimbatore. Your question has been answered at the Teahouse Q&A board. Feel free to reply there!
Please note that all old questions are archived after 2-3 days of inactivity. Message added by Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 16:44, 3 July 2017 (UTC). (You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{teahouse talkback}} template).

spamming helmetdon.in

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you insert a spam link. Persistent spammers may have their websites blacklisted, preventing anyone from linking to them from all Wikimedia sites as well as potentially being penalized by search engines. Jytdog (talk) 18:11, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Paid editing

Hello Ramcoimbatore. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have a financial stake in promoting a topic, but that you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a black hat practice.
Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists, and if it does not, from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.
Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Ramcoimbatore. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Ramcoimbatore|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Jytdog (talk) 18:11, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your note at my talk page, and for disclosing! And I mean that -- thanks!

OK, so continuing one step at a time... per the PAID policy, you have to disclose your employer, the client, and if one of those doesn't cover something important, your "affiliation". So would you please reply here (just below) and describe a bit more -- are you an employee of Helmetdon and PR is part of your job, or do you work for a digital marketing agency and Helmetdon is a client, or are you a freelancer? Let me know and I can help you format the tag. Then we can talk about some more stuff, to get you oriented. Thanks again. Jytdog (talk) 03:49, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

I am a freelancer and help businesses in developing websites and help them with their online presence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramcoimbatore (talk • contribs) 04:02, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I added that bit.

So disclosure is the first part of the way that conflicted editing is managed in Wikipedia.

The second part is a form of peer review. This piece may seem a bit strange to you at first, but if you think about it, it will make sense. In Wikipedia, editors can immediately publish their work, with no intervening publisher or standard peer review -- you can just create an article, click save, and voilà there is a new article, and you can go into any article, make changes, click save, and done. No intermediary - no publisher, no "editors" as that term is used in the real world. So the bias that conflicted editors tend to have, can go right into the article. Conflicted editors are also really driven to try to make the article fit with their external interest. If they edit directly, this often leads to big battles with other editors.

What we ask editors to do who have a COI and want to work on articles where their COI is relevant, is:

a) if you want to create an article relevant to a COI you have, create the article as a draft through the WP:AFC process, disclose your COI on the Talk page, and then submit the draft article for review (the AfC process sets up a nice big button for you to click when it is ready) so it can be reviewed before it publishes; and

b) And if you want to change content in any existing article on a topic where you have a COI, we ask you to propose content on the Talk page for others to review and implement before it goes live, instead of doing it directly yourself. You can make the edit request easily - and provide notice to the community of your request - by using the "edit request" function as described in the conflict of interest guideline. You can also add a {{request edit}} tag to flag it for other editors to review.

By following those "peer review" processes, editors with a COI can contribute where they have a COI, and the integrity of WP can be protected. We get some great contributions that way, when conflicted editors take the time to understand what kinds of proposals are OK under the content policies. (There are good faith paid editors here, who have signed and follow the Wikipedia:Statement on Wikipedia from participating communications firms, and there are "black hat" paid editors here who lie about what they do and really harm Wikipedia).

But understanding the mission, and the policies and guidelines through which we realize the mission, is very important! There are a whole slew of policies and guidelines that govern content and behavior here in Wikipedia. Please see User:Jytdog/How for an overview of what Wikipedia is and is not (we are not a directory or a place to promote anything), and for an overview of the content and behavior policies and guidelines. Learning and following these is very important, and takes time. Please be aware that you have created a Wikipedia account, and this makes you a Wikipedian - you are obligated to pursue Wikipedia's mission first and foremost when you work here, and you are obligated to edit according to the policies and guidelines. Editing Wikipedia is a privilege that is freely offered to all, but the community restricts or completely takes that privilege away from people who will not edit and behave as Wikipedians.

If you get further clients, you should add another disclosure to your Userpage for that client, in addition to the disclosure you will make on the talk page of the relevant article.

I hope that makes sense to you.

Will you please agree to learn and follow the content and behavioral policies and guidelines, and to follow the peer review processes going forward when you want to work on any article where you want to do work for a client in Wikipedia? Do let me know, and if anything above doesn't make sense I would be happy to discuss. Best regards Jytdog (talk) 04:11, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

stop replying on my talk page. REPLY HERE.

Dear Jytdog Thanks for your guidance on editing Wikipedia where COI is involved. I will comply with the guidelines and request review of articles henceforth. I am not finding my previous edits can you please review and publish them.

no I am not going to publish your spamming. Again, read User:Jytdog/How. You cannot abuse your editing privileges to promote your clients. If you do you will be indefinitely blocked. Jytdog (talk) 04:31, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

I have disclosed the COI and would like to comply with Wikipedia guidelines regarding Spam please let me know how do I proceed with my edits any corrections I need to make.

Thanks for writing here instead of my talk page. Quick note on the logistics of discussing things on Talk pages, which are essential for everything that happens here. In Talk page discussions, we "thread" comments by indenting - when you reply to someone, you put a colon in front of your comment, which the Wikipedia software will render into an indent when you save your edit; if the other person has indented once, then you indent twice by putting two colons in front of your comment, which the WP software converts into two indents, and when that gets ridiculous you reset back to the margin (or "outdent") by putting this {{od}} in front of your comment. This also allows you to make it clear if you are also responding to something that someone else responded to if there are more than two people in the discussion; in that case you would indent the same amount as the person just above you in the thread. I hope that all makes sense. And at the end of the comment, please "sign" by typing exactly four (not 3 or 5) tildas "~~~~" which the WP software converts into a date stamp and links to your talk and user pages when you save your edit. That is how we know who said what. I know this is insanely archaic and unwieldy, but this is the software environment we have to work on. Will reply on the substance in a second... Jytdog (talk) 05:01, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Your prior edits were all spam, and had nothing to do with Wikipedia's mission. When you edit here, you are responsible for editing according to Wikipedia's mission. If you edit to promote your clients, your edits will be rejected for being promotional. Wikipedia not a platform for promotion. Jytdog (talk) 05:02, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Article Creation Request

I request fellow Wikipedians to write a neutral article on helmetdon a web site from Coimbatore India, I would like to avoid writing the article myself due to COI as I am paid directly or indirectly by Helmet don. I can answer any questions from fellow Wikipedians on information that may be required to write the article. Ramcoimbatore (talk) 06:30, 6 October 2017 (UTC)