User talk:Rbraunwa/archive 3

This is the third archive of my talk page, from December 2006 to May 2007. Please do not edit it. The current talk page is here. Earlier archives are here (#1) and here (#2).

Porfirio Diaz - Part Japanese?

I thought you might know the answer to this, there's a micro-revert war going on over this. Were any of Porfirio Diaz's ancestors Japanese? And what's the right way to spell his maternal surname, Mori or Mory? Lastly, it looks like the Spanish WP article on Diaz has been hacked to make it appear that he's of mostly Spanish extraction, which sounds like BS to me. Tubezone 03:37, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Tubezone. My usual sources aren't very helpful on this point. Enciclopedia de México (1988) gives a fair amount of space to the family he was born into, but doesn't mention his ethnicity at all. Neither do Manuel García Puron in México y sus Gobernantes (1984) or Fernando Orozco Linares in Gobernantes de México (1985). The Japanese claim does sound vaguely familiar, but I don't remember where I read it. Perhaps in an earlier version of the Wikipedia article. I can't rule it out absolutely, but it is unusual enough that if it were generally believed, I think it would be reported in my sources.

I found this online:

The future dictator of Mexico, José de la Cruz Porfirio Díaz (always called Porfirio Díaz), was born on or before September 15, 1830 in the city of Oaxaca, Oaxaca in modest circumstances. His parents, José de la Cruz Díaz and Patrona Mori de Díaz, operated a small inn while the father also worked as a veterinarian and blacksmith to supplement the family income. The Díaz family was mestizo, descended from both Mixtec Indians and Spaniards.

I would say the Japanese claim should be left out unless good sources can be found for it.

As for his mother — I think Mori is more common, but Enclicopedia de México gives Mory. In the article I would tag it like this: "Petrona Mori (sometimes Petrona Mory)". There is a fair amount of variation in nineteenth century Mexican names.

The house in which Porfirio was born in Oaxaca is preserved and is now a primary school. It is more than "modest". Here is a picture of part of the facade (the fifth picture down). Oaxaca has streets named after him and a monument to him, one of the very few places in Mexico (perhaps the only one) where that is true.

One other interesting thing about Díaz in Oaxaca, is that his brother as a young man was said to have climbed the facade of the cathedral.

--Rbraunwa 16:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Best wishes for 2007

Hi Robert !

First and foremost my best wishes for 2007 especially for a perfect health for the coming years.

Concerning my blocked account on the french Wikipedia. The french wikipedia suffer of the little Napoléons syndrome. When you propose or say something on the french wikipedia, you are in most cases censured by french sysops who didn't notice that the french wikipedia isn't the wikipedia of France but of all countries and people sharing french as a language. Maybe you noticed the french wikipedia doesn't progress as the other languages do ?

It's the fact of those little Napoléons censuring and deleting more and more articles. So as I couldn't accept this kind of vandalism, I prefer to write and translate articles in other laguages. As Shakespeare said "Something is rotten in the kingdom of Denmark" just replace kingdom of Denmark by french wikipedia and all is said.

And once again, your articles are just great, keep going !

PhilFree 13:22, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Phil. I'm really sorry about the situation on the French Wikipedia. I can't believe they would do that after all your contributions. Do you have any recourse? Can you appeal? Or might the suspension be lifted after awhile?

I won't do any recourse, I no more trust in the french project, I seriously think a group of the french sysops try to kill the project. So I won't lose my time and energy on something without future. PhilFree 13:45, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

My surgery went very well. I had melanoma of the esophagus. This is very rare. According to something I read on-line, there are only 240 recorded cases in all the medical literature. I had an esophagectomy using the minimally invasive technique. Ironically, because it was melanoma, the prognosis is not as dismal as what the article indicates. The operation went very well and I am recovering at home. As far as anyone knows, I am now cancer free, but of course there's no proof of that and I need periodic check-ups to see if it returns. I'm still somewhat weak, but I'm in good spirits and optimistic.

Moral is the most important thing in such a situation, I lived about the same, 5 years ago, with same check-ups, my last one will be this year. Once again, I wish you all the best. PhilFree 13:45, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

--Rbraunwa 23:04, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Viceroyalty of Peru

Buenas, Sr. Robert Braunwart. Espero que todo le vaya bien. Ya he acabado de trasladar información de los artículos sobre virreyes del Perú al artículo de Viceroyalty of Peru. Espero que el resultado no le desagrade mucho, pero es probable que haya muchas faltas de ortografía :). También he creado List of Viceroys of Peru, como pedías en la página de discusión. ¡Hasta luego! --Gimferrer 20:56, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

What a lot of work you've put in. This is a big improvement. I'm made a few changes for style, but nothing important. I'm not finished yet, so there will probable be a few more minor changes. You might want to add a paragraph about the civil war at the beginning of the virreinato. That was mostly before the viceroyalty was founded, but not entirely.

Are you Peruvian?

Good job.

--Rbraunwa 22:08, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Perdona mi tardanza en contestar, pero he estado un poco ocupado. Estaré encantado de que añadas referencias a la guerra civil en este artículo. Y no, no soy peruano, sino español. Sí que estuve trabajando para reducir el tamaño de la sección de historia del artículo de Perú [1]] y trasladar el texto sobrante a History of Peru. Desgraciadamente, han vuelto a ampliar el texto. No sé dan cuenta de que en el artículo de Perú sólo debería haber una pequeña sintesís, que no hay hay que explayarse tanto. Tal vez habría que indicarlo con un cártel. ¿Cuál podría usar? --Gimferrer 13:06, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Perdona otra vez mi torpeza. No había leído el final de la introducción de tu página de usuario. Espero que vaya bien tu proceso de recuperación de la enfermedad. Ojalá te repongas pronto. --Gimferrer 13:53, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Bird species

Please note that it is a long-established and agreed convention that bird species' names are fully capitalised on English wikipedia. jimfbleak 06:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Veraguas

Hi, i just wanted to inform you that i have put up the references for the article Viceroyalty of New Granada that you edited for facts. Heres a little history,

Colon got to Central America where he and his crew where amazed by the gold and friendliness of the indians, they called this area Veraguas, which was the name the natives called it. Veragua extended from Nicaragua to Panama, this province came to be controled by the Royal Audiency of Panamá, and when the Viceroyalty of New Granada was formed, it took control of the Royal Audiency of Panamá and Veraguas. Veraguas formed part of Colombia to at least May 20, 1853, where the constitution to form the Republic of New Granada was singned, which the representatives of Veraguas signed for being part of the new republic.

I just thought i let you know, i understand this and all the articles of Colombia have 0 or minimal references, but im trying to do something about it. mijotoba 01:35, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi mijotoba. Thanks for the quick response. This gets more and more complicated. Here's what I had been working from (one of several sources):

El Virreinato fue una institución netamente española. El de la Nueva España fue fundado el 17 de abril de 1535. Su capital fue la Ciudad de México y sumó las entidades siguientes: Audiencia de Santo Domingo, con las gobernaciones de la isla Española, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Florida y Venezuela. La Audiencia de México, que comprendia la gobernación de Yucatán. La Audiencia de los Confines, que abarcaba las gobernaciones de Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica y Soconusco. La Audiencia de Guadalajara con las gobernaciones de la Nueva Galicia, Nueva Vizcaya, el Nuevo Reino de León, Nuevo México y Coahuila. La Audiencia de Manila, que abarcaba la gobernación de las islas Filipinas. Esta organización se mantuvo casi en su integridad hasta la consumación de la independencia. (Fernando Orozco Linares, Gobernantes de México, Mexico City: Panorama Editorial, 1993.)

My sources are almost all Mexican, so I don't have a New Granada perspective here. Notice that it claims Venezuela as being part of New Spain. I haven't been able to find any dates or other details for this, but I assume it was early in the colonial period or else brief. I also assume it refers just to the coast or a few coast settlements. Now your sources say that Costa Rica was part of New Granada.

I've looked in a few more places, and found that Veraguas "moved around". Although it originally referred to Costa Rica (and perhaps northern Panama), apparently after 1540 it was in Panama. (That is the year la Provincia de Nuevo Cartago y Costa Rica was erected.) Here is an account from the Spanish Wikipedia: Veragua. Also, Castilla de Oro gives a little more information.

Let me know what you think. And thanks for your dedicated work on the Colombian articles.

--Rbraunwa 04:20, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I think this is a very complicated matter, and in the case of Costa Rica, being in the middle, claimed bu many, is very difficult. I looked around and saw that at least when the Viceroyalty of New Granada was first created it did include Costa Rica and Nicaragua, but i also saw that Veraguas kept changing name, status overseer and territoy, so that by the end of the Viceroyalty, it might have no longer belonged to New Granada.

I took the liberty of changing the context of the intro that you at first commented on, and changed it to say that it oversaw SOME parts of Costa Rica, just as Nicaragua was.mijotoba 06:17, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

That looks good to me. Thanks. --Rbraunwa 22:19, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

cabinda.net

Here's what I get when I try to edit a page with the Cabinda.net links:

"The spam filter blocked your page save because it detected a blacklisted hyperlink. You may have added it yourself, the link may have been added by another editor before it was blacklisted, or you may be infected by spyware that adds links to wiki pages. You will need to remove all instances of the blacklisted URL before you can save.

You can request help removing the link, request that the link be removed from the blacklist, or report a possible error on the Spam blacklist talk page. If you'd like to allow a particular link without removing similar links from the blacklist, you can request whitelisting on the Spam whitelist talk page.

The following text is what triggered our spam filter: http://www.cabinda.net" http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Spam_blacklist is one of the links listed. Not MY call, take itup with wiki.--Vidkun 00:04, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On February 5, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Duchy of Veragua, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:20, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 6 February, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Fossil Cycad National Monument, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Yomangani^talk 13:27, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Luis Pérez Dasmariñas

It's good to here from you. What I mean in the lack of WP:MOS is that some sections are to short and may need to be merged into others or expanded. Additionally it is very good to have a strong lead, as that is what is the second most thing targeted by reviewers, the first being references. I understand that it can be hard to come across extra references and images on a Spanish solider and governor who led an expedition to conquer lands. But please do continue to improve the article to the best of your abilities. Pembroke 02:33, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Good luck

En lo que te pueda ayudar cuenta conmigo. Estoy en Campeche, México.

Mi inglés escrito no es por el momento "excelente", jeje. He perdido mucha práctica.

Suerte y good luck!!!!!!!

--Joaquín Martínez Rosado 20:43, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Gracias para los saludos, Joaquín. Estaba en Campeche una vez, pero no lo conozco bien. Gracias para tu adiciones a Jacinto Canek.

Lo siento, pero puedo leer en Española mejor de escribir.

--Rbraunwa 16:13, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Anastasio-bustamante.jpg

There is still no evidence on the source page that this image is in the public domain. What needs to be explicitly mentioned by verifiable, reliable sources, is that the two-dimensional work of art represented was produced (well, actually published) more than 100 years ago. --Iamunknown 20:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

But there are thousands of images on Wikipedia with exactly that sort of information — no copyright claimed or credited at the source page when the image is clearly of an old painting or lithograph contemporary with the subject. There is no reason why this should be an exception. --Rbraunwa 21:10, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Advise Please

Hello Rbraunwa, I am a new user to Wikipedia, and was wondering if you could give me some information on how you add pictures to the sites you’re interested in. The picture you recently added to the William Smith O’Brien page is wonderful. I have pictures of most of the Young Irelanders, and would love to add them to the articles. Sorry for being so forward, Regards --Domer48 21:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Domer. I'd be glad to help. This is a two-step process.

First, you need to upload the picture, either to the English Wikipedia, or if you think it will be useful in other languages as well, to Commons. To upload it to the English site only, click on "Upload File" in the left column of any Wikipedia screen. This brings up a rather intimidating page, but as long as the image is free of copyright or uploadable as "fair use", you shouldn't have any problems. Locate the image on your hard drive using the Browse button, and then in the Summary box type or paste in the source. Under "Licensing", choose the copyright category the image falls under. Most of the images I upload are old, so I use one of the two "author died more than 100 years ago" tags.

Uploading to Commons is similar. Use this link. Commons does not accept fair use images, however.

Once the image has been uploaded to either place, it is available to add to an article in the English Wikipedia. You will need to type a link like this at the place in the article you want the image to appear (at the top of the article, usually, for portraits).

[[Image:William Smith O'Brien.jpg|thumb|William Smith O'Brien]]

The first part here is the name of the image, which you can copy from the upload page after the upload finishes. "|thumb" is necessary to integrate the image with the article. You can also add "|left" after thumb if you want the image to appear on the left side. (The right side is the default.) Finally, the last bit of text is the caption.

Let me know if you have any other questions. --Rbraunwa 22:04, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello Rbraunwa, thank you very much for the information on uploading the pictures. That was really nice of you, and very much appreciated. If ever I can be of any assistance please ask, Regards--Domer48 21:04, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Glad to help Domer. Young Ireland is a bit outside my field — I work mostly on former Spanish colonies. I just stumbled upon the William Smith O’Brien picture. I'm glad to see you added more images. If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to let me know. --Rbraunwa 23:18, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Fair Use Images removed from your Userspace Galleries

Hi. I blanked your Gallery 6 and 7 because they contained at least 5 and 10 (respectively) fair use images. The fair use policy #9 states that images may not be used outside the article namespace, and displaying them in your galleries of uploaded images is a clear violation of this policy. You can restore the gallery, as long as you remove the fair use images from them. I didn't check galleries 1-5, but please do that as well to remove any offending material there as well. Thank you for understanding and your cooperation. --MECU≈talk 02:44, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi Mecu. First, I wasn't aware of that policy. But the galleries are really just for my own use. I set them up so I could keep track of the images (in case some were removed). Are you sure the policy applies to Userspace? And can you suggest any other way that I can keep tabs on the images? Thanks. --Rbraunwa 02:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

You can link to the image without displaying them, or put the images in your watchlist. To link to an image, you just do the normal code like for displaying it but add a : before the Image: part, like this: [[:Image:blah.jpg]], though I'm not sure if that will work in a gallery. Yes, I'm quite sure it applies to userspaces. #9 even explicitly states not to be used in userspace. It's okay, most people don't know this rule so, unfortunately, it's fairly common to violate. Thank you for your understanding. --MECU≈talk 02:57, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Emma Blair

Robert,

Thanks for adding the link on my article "Principalia" re information about Emma Blair. --Jobrill 11:30 a.m., 05 March 2007 (UTC)

Glad to help John. I've used The Philippine Islands: 1493-1898 for most of my articles on the Philippines, and I thought Emma Blair deserved a short article of her own. Nice article, by the way. You've obviously put a lot of work into it. --Rbraunwa 23:18, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Joseph Monier

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Sorry about that. I'll get right on it. --Rbraunwa 14:50, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

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Hello Rbraunwa. This article was kindly nominated by ALoan. Do feel free to self nominate. Keep up the good work! Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Tezozómoc><Tezozomoc

Noticing that you have been inserting accents on the penultimate syllable of the name Tezozomoc I wonder what is your reasoning behind this. The accent seems redundant in spanish where stress would fall on that syllable by default, it is also redundant in Náhuatl from which the name originbally comes since Nahuatl also has penultimate stress. And in English (the language of this wikipedia) the most common practice is to write the name without the accent. Which work do you refer to when deciding that tezozomoc needs an accent?·Maunus· ·ƛ· 20:05, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi Maunus. Thanks for adding that article, by the way. There has been some question about the use of the accent for Tezozomoc, the ruler of Azcapotzalco, since his name was not written in Spanish characters. However, every scholarly reference to the historian Fernando Alvarado Tezozómoc that I have seen in Spanish (I've seen none in English) does use the accent. Particularly, the Enciclopedia de México consistently uses the accent. Since he wrote in Spanish, I assume he used the accent himself. And the rule about penultimate accents applies only for words that end in a vowel, n or s, so it wouldn't apply here. Without the accent mark, Tezozomoc would be accented on the final syllable.

I am concerned that omitting the accent mark would make scholarly references in Spanish more difficult to locate. Also, it's apparently the way he himself wrote his name, and Wikipedia does retain the accents in names of other Spanish speakers.

--Rbraunwa 20:54, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Excuse me for butting in, but I feel I should point out that the Spanish of Tezozomoc's time did not use accents yet — they weren't adopted till later. He actually would have written his name as Teçoçomoc. --Ptcamn 23:44, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I didn't know that; thanks for the information. However, both the English and the Spanish Wikipedias use accents in names from the time of Fernando Alvarado Tezozómoc and earlier. I found a few examples looking through Category:Spanish writers — Juan Ruíz de Alarcón y Mendoza, Alonso Fernández de Avellaneda, Alonso de Ercilla y Zúñiga, Baltasar Gracián, Juan Martínez de Jáuregui y Aguilar, Andrés Laguna, Leonor López de Córdoba, Pero López de Ayala and Juan López de Hoyos. It would be strange to omit the accents just because a Spanish writer was of Indigenous descent. --Rbraunwa 21:10, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

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DYK

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Constantine Lascaris

Hi there! I'm pretty sure Constantine_Lascaris did not live to be 177... Please correct the birth date. Oh and I wish you well for your recent operation. "Perastika" as we say in Greece. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.73.131.70 (talk) 17:08, 30 April 2007 (UTC).

Thanks for pointing that out. It was a typo, I think, for 1434. I've corrected it.

--Rbraunwa 17:31, 30 April 2007 (UTC)