User talk:Renamed user FoctULjDYf/USMCHistory

Status

Currently on a first pass through to introduce some cohesion - many of the later sections will be coalesced rather than under separate headers. This will have to be much shorter to fit into the USMC article; about half, I gauge. In a second pass, I will remove many of the more esoteric events will go out (e.g. the United States history section practically sprints through 2 centuries), but I do intend to keep all main elements of Marine lore.

I'm not a fan of the headers, I intend it to be short enough to do without the headers. It's already so short that many sections (e.g. between the wars) are really too short to justify a break.

Justifying Omissions

Only putting in wholesale removals; the rest are judgement calls about importance.

In May 1811, 2 officers and 47 Marines established an advanced base on Cumberland Island, Georgia to be used for actions against pirates in Spanish Florida and captured Fernandino in Spanish Florida on March 18, 1812. They occupied it until May 1813. This was the first peacetime overseas base of the United States.

Could not find this in Simmons. Not saying it's untrue but probably not notable. Also, an island off the coast of one of the original 13 states doesn't really count as an "overseas base". Will leave in the main article pending confirmation from other sources. --Mmx1 21:10, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Removing Together with sailors and US Army troops, they again captured Fernandino in Spanish Florida on December 23, 1817..

In general I'm going to use the guide that if I can't find it in Simmons or the 30-page abbreviated history in the Marine Officer's guide (I have others available, but the former is supposed to be comprehensive and the latter a good abridged history), it's probably not worth mention in the abbreviated version.

I see the abbreviated version as giving the highlights and more importantly tying them together into more than a list of events; it's not necessary to include every detail, that's what the breakout article's for.

Looking over it as it stands, I see a trend of highlighting minor amphibious landings and advance base seizures to try draw parallels from early history to later missions. But, truth is, the Marine mission wasn't well established at this early point, something many reliable authors state.--Mmx1 21:36, 18 July 2006 (UTC)