User talk:RhinosF1/Archives2019/02 (February)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thank you for your kind message. I will surely ask you, if I happen to need help :) SakariAntti (talk) 21:04, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

@SakariAntti: Thanks, -->

Moved to User Talk:RhinosF1/Awards

RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 21:14, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Help Required

Can someone please look at my edit notice and repair it as it isn't showing the status but at the top? RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 14:22, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

fixed --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 16:51, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Spoka page is the same as other pages, so why you nominated this page for deletion?

Hi there! All brands are here, so what is the reason for Spoka deletion? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solonese (talk • contribs)

@Solonese: It has been nominated as a contested speedy deletion, I personally think it can probably stay and will clarify that. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 19:47, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Spoka

I'm confounded by the thought process which led you to contest a speedy deletion, make changes to an article, nominate it for deletion and then vote to Keep the article at your own AfD filing. This generates needless work (as does the inevitable and essentially mandatory bollocking you're now receiving) for our already overstretched administrator corps. If you continue to show a lack of the necessary and essential competence needed to handle CSDs, AfDs, SPIs and other backroom maintenance tasks, it is likely that I or another administrator will topic-ban you from editing within the 'Wikipedia' namespace, or alternatively, that we will block you from editing entirely under the provisions of the competence is required supplement to our guidance on disruptive editing. Nick (talk) 21:48, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

I apologise for the mistake and I have explained on-wiki at the related SPI what led to this decision. I am aware of my wording slip up with the Traka AfD as well and have corrected this. Apart from that, I am aware of no further issues at this point but again apologise for my errors and will watch how the AfD process works a bit more before getting involved further, including in relation to contested CSD's. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 21:55, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

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User warnings

Hello, RhinosF1,

I saw a warning you placed on User talk:Ogyan Rgzin, an editor who has only been active for 5 days, that looked like a level 4 warning, threatening them with an immediate block. While this editors' first work has not been helpful to the project and has been deleted, I don't think it warrants such a severe warning and it's inappropriate to be threatening new editors, who make good faith edits, with receiving a block. Unless their edits are clear and rampant vandalism, involve copyright issues or BLP-offending edits, please start with the gentlest warning to try to get an editor's attention. And never threaten a block against an editor unless you are certain that an admin will follow a warning up with a block. Making empty threats doesn't every help anyone become a better editor. Thanks for your work. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:45, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Sockpuppets

Hi there, I didn't know that if I would support somebody's opinion, I will be called Sockpuppet in Wiki. FaultyTowersCleese (talk) 07:52, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

I have reason to believe based on the fact your only edit that you and the other IPs Posting comments at Talk:Spoka are connected. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 15:06, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

CSD help

Hello RhinosF1. Can you please request speedy deletion (again, re-created) for this user page? Per WP:U5. User:Anishchauhan1997, too. Thanks 182.58.216.209 (talk) 14:36, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 15:07, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Admin Needed

Hi,

1) Could someone block my alternative account, User:RhinoF1, for accountability purposes?

2) And could my rights be copied to User:RhinosF1 (Public)

Thanks RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 17:07, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

1) Wouldn't it be easier to just redirect that account's user/talk page to that of your main account? 2) Doesn't having advanced permissions on an account created to be used on public (potentially unsafe) computers defeat the purpose of having such an account? 78.28.54.83 (talk) 17:40, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

1) I have a notice on there but if it can't edit it prevents distruption.

2) I only need extended confirmed and pending changes which EC is automatic and pending changes is not really 'advanced', it's more to stop anyone accessing my main account. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 18:04, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Can I ask why you created RhinoF1 if you never plan to use it? If it's just to prevent impersonation, {{Doppelganger}} is available for consistent tagging. Generally speaking, blocking the account shouldn't really be necessary; a non-autoconfirmed account isn't of any particular use to a vandal. It can be done if you really want it, though. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 17:37, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Writ Keeper, To prevent impersonation. I'd rather it be blocked. Can you do the rights copy to my public account as well. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 17:44, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done. Keep in mind that you're responsible for edits and rights usage on both your accounts; misuse of the rights on either account--even in the event of an account compromise--could lead to revocation for both. Account security is your responsibility, and with advanced rights on your public account, it needs to be at least as secure as your main account. Be careful; while there is precedent for granting rights to alternate accounts, 78.28's opinion that assigning rights to an account intended for use on unsafe computers is self-defeating is a valid one. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 18:18, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 18:58, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Oopsie

Sorry about the no signature thing, I accidentally pressed enter before I had finished formatting my message and it got posted unfinished. 🙈 --Michail (blah) 21:57, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Don't worry, try reading over it once you've done it. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 06:31, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Tepito Arte Acá

Saludos

I put this message on Robert McClenon's page but Ill copy it here as you flagged it.

I just found your messages here as I do not go on Wikipedia that often. Im not exactly a newbie but Im not sure I understand the problem with the submission. The lack of sections is clear enough, but I do not understand why you state that it is written from the point of view of the organization. None of the sources are from Tepito Arte Acá... all of the newspaper articles are specifically about the organization and not published by them. Only the book and the thesis is not focused specifically on the organization, but most of the information is not from those sources.

Did the rules for creating new pages change recently to require getting approval before putting it in the main space?HicksW (talk) 20:27, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

HicksW, Will respond at reviewers talk page. Next time you can use {{ping}} or {{tb}} RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 20:54, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

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18:45, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

My Sandbox

Do you have nothing better to do than destroy work that I've been toiling on for more than a month? -Red marquis (talk) 21:51, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

After reviewing the page and content, and after running some analysis tools - I found that some content you added appears to violate copyrights. This information was removed because it was a violation. If you have questions regarding the deletion of the page, please read the information on responding to deletion nomination. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 22:12, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Let me be clear. Yes, I put entire news articles on my sandbox because I don't have the luxury of working on this 24/7. I need to harvest critical information from those articles: people, places, times and events. The tour last for more than a year. There are a LOT of material to go through. When I'm done with said material, I delete the information I don't need. What you are threatening to do is delete more than a month of research and work I've completed. Whether snippets or entire sections. Some of those research I literally paid money out of my own pocket to access because old newspaper articles are now owned by a few companies that chaarge extorionist prices to access. Do you understand the stress you are putting me through after all I've put into this work? Do you understand why you are pissing me off right now?! -Red marquis (talk) 22:28, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

If you're going to delete my sandbox you may as well block my account... so I don't make the mistake in the future of thinking about working on any of this shit anymore. -Red marquis (talk) 22:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia can not accept copied content. An administrator has reviewed the request and agreed that it doesn't belong on Wikipedia due to the legal issues copyvios can cause. If you need to take copies of content online it may be best to copy it to your own personal storage rather than a public area. Unfortunately, while it is 'your' userspace, you do not set the rules on how it can be used.

I am also not going to delete your sandbox. It will be decided by the community then an administrator will review it to determine the outcome. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 22:35, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the link to Solowiki. I appreciate the gesture and I apologize for my reaction. Anyway, do you have any idea how to open a .jar file? I can't seem to get that program installed on my PC. Thanks. -Red marquis (talk) 05:17, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the apology, you must have JRE installed. You can run the command java -jar jar-file replacing jar-file with the file path in CMD.exe. You might get quicker help at WP:RD/C RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 06:38, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Roopal Tyagi

Hi RhinosF1, I've done a short copy-edit on the article; it does, however, have problems with over-referencing in places, particularly the first paragraph, which I found difficult to locate through the citations. One reference per point is usually sufficient, preferring high-quality sources over lower-quality ones. Regarding your request to "... ensure citations are next to content they actually link to", that's beyond the limits of copy-editing. I've no intention of trawling through a mass of citations to fix this article, so I've marked the article for Cleanup. Cheers, Baffle☿gab 20:35, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Baffle gab1978, The point you indicated was in relation to the refs that you commented out at the top of the article. I'll look through the changes more thoroughly shortly. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 21:46, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

It looks a lot better. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 21:58, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks RhinosF1, I wasn't sure why the orphaned citations were at the top of the article; hence I commented them out. I'm glad the c/e was useful. Cheers, and good luck with the article, Baffle☿gab 01:41, 17 February 2019 (UTC).

{{archive now}}

Hi RhinosF1

In https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBFC_%26_MFI_in_India, i just wanted to add some apps which has NBFC licence in India. In Important Links section, there are some links related to what i have posted and "Top 50 NBFC'S in India based article don't have personal app's name in their list. That's why i added new listing in the post. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amit 1293 (talk • contribs) 08:57, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi Amit 1293, To me, your link seems like it is not linked to the subject and is too general. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 09:04, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

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23:13, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	An awesome Wikipedian K2share (talk) 03:05, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks K2share, Good luck with your draft. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 06:31, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Moved to : User Talk:RhinosF1/Awards

Wish

Hello. Help expand for article Maureen Wroblewitz. Thanks you.2402:800:6342:A57:CBDF:4D92:6864:CD5A (talk) 10:54, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

 Deferred: I'm not experienced with this topic. I suggest you discuss on the article talk page or at an appropriate wikiproject. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 11:16, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

 Comment: - This article has had problems in the past with sockpuppetry and copyedit spam requests. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 11:16, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

 Requesting immediate archiving...  Requesting immediate archiving...

Tyrese Gibson

Thanks. Drmies (talk) 14:59, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Drmies - You're welcome! Thanks for taking the time to post this. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 15:46, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

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My Sandboxes again

So what did I copyvio now? Hmmm? Both of those were direct copies of the mainspace article which as you all explained is FINE for editing. That's exactly what I've done. I've not brought back any of the contentious material. That means YOU have gone too far this time. Either yyou didn't actually review the NEW material or you really simply don't like what it contains. You also already deleted one of them. Give me BACK what I was working on. I've had it with you and your elitist club of admin pricks. You're stopping me from working on what I want to EVEN after I followed your rules. If you disagree then SHOW ME how I violated them again before you delete my work! - Red marquis (talk) 20:53, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Red marquis - You need to contact the deleting administrator to restore the content. I am not an administrator so can no longer see it. In this case, a quick Earwig's scan revealed similar copyvio issues to the original article. It's up to the administrator that takes action to verify complaints. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 21:22, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

I'm reverting your vandalism and harassment. Copying from MAINSPACE violates no copyvio. And YOU were the one who REDELETED it. You're not a messenger. You're the executioner. If you don't like that then BLOCK ME. -Red marquis (talk) 21:36, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Red marquis, I can't block you. I'm not an admin. The creator of a page can not remove a speedy template. If it's copied from mainspace then mainspace is a copyvio as well. I'll review it now and withdraw the speedy If I think otherwise apart from that you must leave the template there so it can be checked. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 21:42, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Since when if copying material from within Wikipedia with the express purpose of expanding and refining it before moving back the new edits to mainspace copyvio - especially since Wikipedia is free content? -Red marquis (talk) 21:50, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

I'm having trouble with earwig. Per policy, do not remove the tag as you created the page use the contest button. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 21:52, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

I'm also seriously considering WP:AN/I in the morning. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 21:55, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

If you're having trouble with Earwig, then DELETE the Mainspace article too. Because I just copied EVERYTHING from that. My entire work. And I don't care anymore what you're considering. FUCK YOU! -Red marquis (talk) 22:11, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Red marquis, To warn you, AN/I will be notified in by the end of tomorrow. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 22:17, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

• Rhinos, you need to knock it off. I think if you were following/stalking/etc any editor like this they'd likely get pissed off. Take a step back, let's let everyone cool down for a minute, and hopefully we can avoid any unpleasantness. Primefac (talk) 22:22, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

RhinosF1 Leave. Me. ALONE. As you mentioned, no one deputized you police of anything except yourself. But if you feel the need to keep vandalizing my sandboxes and harassing me, then bring it. But DO NOT COMPLAIN I'm being too uncivil and too vicious. Moving forward, I WILL ALWAYS strike back if you continue to attack me. That's a promise. -Red marquis (talk) 23:17, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

{{archive now}}

BN

I thanked UninvitedCompany. You and I are thinking alike - see discussion with Xaosflux on my talk page + with Bishonen on hers. I may yet post a version of my comment to her re: the RfC at the RfC itself but need to think a bit more first. - Sitush (talk) 18:40, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Sitush- Hi, thanks for the message, We probably need a discussion on gaming the system separately. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 18:46, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Yep. That is also what I am thinking. Are you inside my head or what? - Sitush (talk) 18:52, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Sitush, now User:UninvitedCompany has suggested refusing it we can wait but we need more rules to be set over gaming the system. I've not seen you much. Sorry, If I miss a response my TP is busy today and I am as well. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 18:54, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

-  Ongoing discussion elsewhere  RhinosF1(chat)(status)(contribs) 11:31, 20 February 2019 (UTC) 

I just want to point something out about 2 wikipedia articles

I would like to point out I find it funny that it says homosexuality is legal in Angola in the LGBT rights in Africa article but not in the Angola article. Apparently maybe the articles need a little fixing. 50.68.237.196 (talk) 23:03, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Have got an issue with any revert I made? If not Wikipedia is a work in progress, make the edit yourself. If you are unable to edit the page, then use {{Edit semi-protected}} or the appropriate template corresponding to the protection level. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 07:12, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

I don't have an issue. I'm just saying maybe both articles should have the same data, since they both talk about lgbt rights in Angola. 50.68.237.196 (talk) 19:24, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

I would then advise you start a discussion among editors on the page you think needs correcting, request the edit using the template above or fix it RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 19:26, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Archive Paused until 01/03/2019 pending ongoing discussion by RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)}

Rino do you care if I change back the edit you did?

Do you care? 50.68.237.196 (talk) 18:43, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

If you have a source go ahead, Can you link me to the page it's in relation to. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 18:45, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

I've just spotted your thread above. If you have a source then you should be fine if it's about those articles contradicting each other. RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)} 18:55, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Archive Paused until 01/03/2019 to match above thread by RhinosF1^(chat)_{(status)(contribs)}

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