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God and the Individual[edit]

Human experiential reality[1] differentiates into:

   a) spirit
   b) energy-matter and body (gravity comes from paradise)
   c) personality
   d) mind
   e) the potential soul apparatus and the potential of a transhuman environment 
      (semi-material-semi-spiritual) 

3) personal deity = "god"

The desire to find God, know God, and become like Him is the central quest of life for each person.


  • The spirit of God is sent out to live in the human mind and develop the soul.

These spirit fragments are self-aware self contained units, each with capacities for thinking and planning, working and acting, communicating, and loving, and each having an individualized plan of the ideal life for the particular human they indwell. Through the act of an individual's will, in cooperation with the action of the spirit fragment within the individual mind, a unique new universe reality called the soul is created. The soul is the potential future life form and expanded form of consciousness that survives death. The major goal of human existence is to attune to the presence of the indwelling spirit fragment of God, which is attempting to stimulate the growth of the soul.

  • The admonition to become perfect as God is perfect brings about a relationship between good and evil.

Humans must have exposure to potential evil (imperfection) to be able to perceive good and evil, and compare the difference between good and evil in their life experience, inorder to stimulate the urge for perfection (good). To the extent that a person consents with their free will to want to find God, the spirit fragment constantly leads the person toward more mature, spiritualized thinking. Also, these fragments will duplicate the spirit counterparts of human thought, that become the basis for the structural formation of the soul, to carry on in the next life. Faith is necessary: because of the nature of God: infinite, absolute, spirit. God is here but we can't perceive him in the mortal state. The position of The Urantia Book towards religion is reliance on faith alone over scientific or philosophical reasoning, neither of which will ever be able to prove or disprove the existence of God.

  • Jesus discussed the topic of good and evil with the leader of the Cynics in Rome and made the following points: good and evil are just words that symbolize human comprehension of the observable universe. The indifferent can use the current social standards in philosophy and religion. The soul which is alive must make a living choice between good and evil as they are determined by the true values of the spiritual standards established by the personal spirit of God. Goodness, like truth, is relative and in contrast with evil. It is the perception of these qualities of goodness and truth that enables the human souls to make these personal decisions of choice which are essential to eternal life.

The spiritually blind individual who follows scientific, philosophic, and religious dogma are in danger of loosing moral and spiritual freedom. This destins a soul to become an intellectual parrot of dogma.

Goodness is always growing toward new levels of the increasing liberty of moral self-realization and and spiritual personality attainment—the discovery of and identification with the personal spirit of God.

An experience is good when it heightens the appreciation of beauty, strenghtens the moral will, enhances the discerment of truth, enlarges the capacity to love and serve other humans in the domains of goodness, beauty, and truth, exhalts spiritual ideals, and unifies the supreme human motives of time with the eternal plans of the personal spirit of God. All of these lead to an increased desire to do the will of God as it manifests in the personal spirit of God. All this fosters the passion to find God and be more like him. [2]

  • Evil is a concept of relativity

It arises out of the observation of the imperfections which appear in the shadow cast by a finite universe of things and beings in time—such a world obscures the living light of the universal expression of the eternal realities of the Infinite One.

Potential evil is inherent in the necessary incompleteness of the revelation of God as a time space limited expression of infinity and eternity. The fact of the partial in the presence of the complete constitues reativity of reality, creates necessity for intellectual choosing and extablishes value levels of spirit recognition and response. The incomplete concept in human minds is potential evil. The additional error of unjustified deficiency in reasonable spiritual adjustment of these distortions and discordant perceptions and conceptions of the mind is equivalent to the reallization of actual evil. [3]

Faith is necessary to become conscious of God's presence in human experience, as it occurs through individual interaction with the spirit fragment of God. There is a paradox to the reality of God's existing both as a spirit fragment that lives in the human mind which can be personally experienced, and God as a transcendant being that is beyond human understanding. Through the practice of learning how to follow the inner leadings of the living spirit fragment of God — an individual "chooses God's will" — and the individual progresses to greater God consciousness and spiritual growth. God-consciousness consists of three levels of "reality realization" (i.e., making reality real): 1) mind consciousness — the idea of God; 2) soul consciousness — the ideal of God; 3) spirit conscisousness — the realization of the spirit reality of God.[4]

Human conscious experience may be understood as being composed of spirit, mind, and personality. These three elements are intuitively understood to be real. [5] The unification of these three realities is further intuitively understood to be valid, and to be part of God-consciousness. The unification of these elements can even further be related to the development of the human soul.[6]

The soul becomes a son of the universe father and the child of the Supreme Being, our universe mother. The father-mother qualities of the soul develop in a dynamic way as the soul acheives progressive levels of universe reality. [7]

The act of a human's choosing to do the will of God is a cosmic value and has a universe meaning which is immediately reacted to by some unrevealed force of co-ordination, probably the functioning of the ever enlarging action of the Supreme Being. [8] When a human decides and acts, we experience, and the meanings and values of the experience are forever a part of our eternal character on all levels, from the finite to the final. From an infinity point of view, everything in the "future" already exists, it just hasn't been revealed in time and space. Existentially the I AM is unattainable. Experientially the I AM is attainable. This is the paradox of the reality of the infinte I AM and the finte I AM.[9]

The Supreme Creators of paradise seem to act to register the meanings, facts, and values of evolutionary experience in the Supreme Being. The 7 mind spirits, Spirit of Truth, and Holy Spirit register human experience with the Supreme Being. The experience of man and the Spirit fragment register with the Supreme Being. The consequences of human experience remain part of the living Supreme Being. Thus, our experience creates a living echo in the Supreme Being. What humans take with them as a personality possession are the character consequences of the experience of having used the mind and spirit circuits of the grand universe in the paradise ascent.

The Supreme Being will eventually compensate finte creatures for their inability ever to achieve more than limited experience contact with the universe of universes. All creature experience registers in and is a part of the Supreme Being; when the Supreme Being is complete, then we will have contact with total experience. [10]

The Supreme Being is experiential; therefore he is entirely experiencible. The existential realityies of the seven absolutes of infinity are not perceivable by the technique of experience; only by the personality realities of the Father, Son, and Infinite Spirit can be grasped by the personality of the finite creature in the prayer-worship attitude.[11]

Within the completed power-personality synthesis of the Supreme Being there will be associated all of the absoluteness of the several triodities which could be so associated (7 out of 15), and this majestic personality of evolution will be experientially attainable by all finite personalities. When post humans attain the postulated seventh stage of spirit existence, they will therein experience the realization of a new meaning-value of the absoluteness and infinity of the triodities as such is revealed on subabsolute levels in the Supreme Being, who is experiencable. But the attainment of these stages of maximum development will probably have to await the co-ordination settling of the entire grand universe in light and life.[12]

A declaration is made in the manuscript that there is a "reality sensing and responding dimension" inherent in personality. The religious dimension is said to be a unique dimension of human being, beyond the dimension of the scientific and philosophic/psychological dimensions of being.

Religion is said to be the individual experience and contact with infinite reality in the consciousness of a normal human being. It is the spirit in contact with the ideas, ideals, insights into reality, and spirit strivings: striving to improve the partial perfect and imperfect individual qualities. Religious experience bestows reality to the human created ideals. The spirit confirming to the individual soul that one is a spirtual child of God. [13] This is the means of breaking the bonds of material status in this material level, the limitations of partial temporary existence[into an expanded enduring existence]. [14]

The pre personal spirits of God[edit]

The pre personal spirit fragments of the Universe Father are concerned with our daily lives, our health, happiness, and true prosperity, just to the extent that these are influential in the determination of our significant choices and vital spiritual decisions, our soul survival, and our evolutionary spiritual progress.

The have model careers for us, worked out on Divinington. These are presented to us, but it is up to us to accept or reject them. We authorize their proposed mind adjustments and spiritual compositions.

They are thought recorders and spirit reproducers for the transhuman mind, activity directing, mind framework directing, and image producers, and impulse producers. They imrove, modify, adjust, and co-ordinate our thinking processes. They build up spiritual counterparts of our careers, transhuman transcripts and life scripts, of our real selves, for the future transhuman life. Hence, they are called by the name "spiritual thought adjusters".[15] They are always in contact with the spirit beings directing the universes, and constantly striving to communicate with us, through our minds. [16]

The individual and reality[edit]

If the assumption can be made that there is a reality to know, the assumption can also be made that an individual has a capacity, whether used or not, to discern and know reality. There would then be a dimension of "nonreality and reality". The manuscript presents that this is the case. Nonreality would have the form of being divorced from the true relationship of the not present past and future. Reality would have the form of a coordinated relationship of the past, present, and future, in a progressive expansion. Infinity reality would be a unified past, present, and future.

Finite freedom of the will exists as a universe reality. There is a range of options. Errors, awareness of errors and action that maintains error, the intentional defiance of the rectification of error, and the rebellion against dharma, cosmic morality: trying to force the persistence of individual liberty without proper cosmic morality.[17] Richiar (talk) 21:28, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

notes[edit]

  1. ^ From a nondeist point of view there is the physical universe, then biological reality, including plants, animals, and humans, that have mind and personality. From a deist point of view within the context of the present concepts of revelation there is deity reality and nondeity reality. Human conscious experience would fall under the dimension of universe potential reality: potential deity potential reality—this transitional zone allows for the interaction of deity with nondeity. The universe potential is a pre-reality where spirit/deity reality makes contact with material mind pre-reality, for the purpose of developing a deity universe reality of spirit-mind-personality based on the evolution of the soul, which is still a trans-human pre-reality until fusion occurs with the personal spirit of God. At the time of fusion, the soul is then considered to be an acutal universe reality (deity-finite combination). In this framework of understanding, actual human evil is still a nonreality from a universe point of view, although it seems real from the human level of experience and understanding.
  2. ^ Paper 132, p. 1457-8
  3. ^ Paper 130, p. 1435-6
  4. ^ Paper 5, p 69
  5. ^ Human experience of "objective reality" and what is considered real is subjective. See also Reality. See also Metaphysics.
  6. ^ Paper 16 p. 195
  7. ^ Paper 117, p. 1288
  8. ^ Paper 117, p. 1288
  9. ^ Paper 115, p 1262
  10. ^ Paper 117, p 1286-7
  11. ^ Paper 106, p. 1165
  12. ^ Paper 106, p. 1165
  13. ^ p. 1114
  14. ^ p. 1117
  15. ^ Paper 110, p.1203-5
  16. ^ Paper 110, p. 1207, 1203
  17. ^ Papers 116, 117, and 118.