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Zionist antisemitism
@User:RolandR, I thought it might interest you that attempts are already being made to delete the entry on Zionist antisemitism, and the article itself characterized as antisemitic. I'm not surprised. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 16:45, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
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September 2022
Hi RolandR! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Tony Greenstein several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.
All editors are expected to discuss content disputes on article talk pages to try to reach consensus. If you are unable to agree at Talk:Tony Greenstein, please use one of the dispute resolution options to seek input from others. Using this approach instead of reverting can help you avoid getting drawn into an edit war. (This is all true even when you are in the right!). JBL (talk) 00:40, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
- As I noted, my reverts were to remove a breach of BLP - the addition of "self-proclaimed" to the description of Greenstein as an anti-fascist, implying that this was untrue - and thus a legitimate exception to the rules. And I opened a discussion on the talk page, explaining this to the other editor, whose reply was a sequence of ad-hominem insults followed by a further BLP-breaching revert. RolandR (talk) 00:48, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
- That is definitely not a BLP violation. I agree with you that the other editor is not charming and is unlikely to prove to be a constructive collaborator. JBL (talk) 00:53, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
Socialism
How am I edit warring with several editors? There have been 2 editors that have added this with two different citations. Each is its own separate case. One revert of one person is not an edit war. Neither is twice removing information that breaks Wikipedia guidelines via WP:SYNTH. It is up to whomever adds information of which other editors disagree with to gain consensus via the talk page if there is resistance to it (of which there has been to this label by other editors and IPs other than myself). Also, I see nowhere in the source that it says socialism is “left to far-left”, a page number should at least be provided. Helper201 (talk) 13:07, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
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My apologies
Hello RolandR,
I sincerely apologize for wrongly claiming that you were harsh towards a new editor. I misunderstood your edit summary for a reversion on the Bezalel Smotrich page. Your reversion was completely reasonable given the restrictions on the page. I take full accountability for my actions and will ensure that I do not act in a similar way in the future. Moving forward, I will be sure ask for help from other editors since it is clear I need help understanding Wikipedia's policies. I hope you can be forgive me for my mistake.
All the very best,
Toomuchcuriosity (talk) 18:21, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
N.B. I overwrote my previous post from the talk page with this apology to ensure any new viewers of the talk page understand that my previous accusation of WP:BITING was unreasonable and a result of my misunderstanding.
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Actually, wp:onus is yours on this.
Hello. I'm happy to work with you on Xenophobia in the United States. Specific to you, the Donald Trump section was added by you. Wp:onus is yours personally. I have reservations about the npov, the unclear RS connections to xenophobia, and the issues with synonymous use of the term anti-immigration policies. You need to discuss before adding it.
I've made many edits in about 5 materially different ways and opened 3 discussions, but you decided to revert all without addressing the cited policy for any of them. And again WP:onus is clearly on the previous additions for much of it, not on my removal. There are no previous discussions on this article.
I'm going to revert back to my most recent edit, then I welcome you to manually revert any specific area and provide policy based reasons. Then we can discuss. I'll let you know once I've got the revert back, and then I'll pause and wait for you.
If you just wholesale revert everything again without citing policies I'll consider that edit warring.
I look forward to making a good article with you. 207.236.147.164 (talk) 15:39, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
- I've made the edit now. I look forward to your reasoned edits and discussion replies. Thanks. 207.236.147.164 (talk) 16:00, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
- No, I did not add the section on Donald Trump. My only edit was to restore the existing section deleted by you without discussion or consensus. I do not wish to discuss this further here, please confine relevant discussion to the article's talk page.RolandR (talk) 22:09, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
- You would actually have to post there first. Maybe you haven't noticed the 3 talk discussions I opened, before editing? 142.115.142.4 (talk) 00:06, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
- No, I did not add the section on Donald Trump. My only edit was to restore the existing section deleted by you without discussion or consensus. I do not wish to discuss this further here, please confine relevant discussion to the article's talk page.RolandR (talk) 22:09, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
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@RolandR What is your personal view of the Bosnian Genocide and Cambodian Genocide? Do you believe it is appropriate for self-described academics to question the validity of the crimes against humanity that occurred during these genocides? Does it matter to the victims of genocide whether their killers are left-wing, right-wing, or neither? Just curious. Royz-vi Tsibele (talk) 15:39, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- My personal view is of no relevance. If the mention of "self-described academics" is intended to refer to Noam Chomsky, then you reveal your own contempt for one of the world's leading intellectuals, and a person recognised universally as an important academic. And, as possibly the only Wikipedia editor to have discussed this personally with him, I can certify (though my own word is obviously not a reliable source for Wikipedia purposes) that Chomsky certainly does not deny the facts or the horrors of the Pol Pot regime, but rather questions the motives and legitimacy of Western states and media in stressing these crimes while ignoring, for example, the similar atrocities perpetrated by the pro-Western Indonesian regime. RolandR (talk) 18:49, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- @RolandR I see, I wasn't aware of that. From the sources I had gone over it seemed that Chomsky was denying the severity of the Cambodian Genocide and not just making claims about hypocrisy. Thank you for your clarification, and apologies for my previous dogmatism. Hope you have a nice day. Royz-vi Tsibele (talk) 20:25, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
Rescuing Revolutionary Communist Party (UK, 1944)
Unfortunately, much of Revolutionary Communist Party (UK, 1944) has been deleted for being unsourced[2]. Would you be able to help find sources for the material and restore it with citations (and/or ask other editors familiar with the topic to do so)? Wellington Bay (talk) 13:58, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
Possibly manipulated image of Michael Rosen?
Michael Rosen's left hand on Michael Rosen 06082023.jpg seems to be the same size as his head. I really have no designs on this image or its use on Mr. Rosen's Wikipedia page, but out of interest, I wanted to ask whether the image was digitally manipulated, if the oversized hand is some trick of the camera shutter, or if Mr. Rosen does, in fact, have exceptionally large hands? Thanks for your great work on articles concerning Palestine, Theodore Christopher (talk) 18:21, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Not digitally altered, the picture is exactly as I took it last summer. The apparently large hand is probably foreshortening, as a result of the angle from which I took the picture. RolandR (talk) 20:38, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
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Issue 62, March – April 2024
- IEEE and Haaretz now available
- Let's Connect Clinics about The Wikipedia Library
- Spotlight and Wikipedia Library tips
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The Signpost: 25 April 2024
- In the media: Censorship and wikiwashing looming over RuWiki, edit wars over San Francisco politics and another wikirace on live TV
- News and notes: A sigh of relief for open access as Italy makes a slight U-turn on their cultural heritage reproduction law
- WikiConference report: WikiConference North America 2023 in Toronto recap
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Newspapers (Not WP:NOTNEWS)
- Recent research: New survey of over 100,000 Wikipedia users
- Traffic report: O.J., cricket and a three body problem
The Signpost: 16 May 2024
- News and notes: Democracy in action: multiple elections
- Special report: Will the new RfA reform come to the rescue of administrators?
- Arbitration report: Ruined temples for posterity to ponder over – arbitration from '22 to '24
- Comix: Generations
- Traffic report: Crawl out through the fallout, baby
The Signpost: 8 June 2024
- Technology report: New Page Patrol receives a much-needed software upgrade
- Deletion report: The lore of Kalloor
- In the media: National cable networks get in on the action arguing about what the first sentence of a Wikipedia article ought to say
- News from the WMF: Progress on the plan — how the Wikimedia Foundation advanced on its Annual Plan goals during the first half of fiscal year 2023-2024
- Recent research: ChatGPT did not kill Wikipedia, but might have reduced its growth
- Featured content: We didn't start the wiki
- Essay: No queerphobia
- Special report: RetractionBot is back to life!
- Traffic report: Chimps, Eurovision, and the return of the Baby Reindeer
- Comix: The Wikipediholic Family
- Concept: Palimpsestuous
The Signpost: 4 July 2024
- News and notes: WMF board elections and fundraising updates
- Special report: Wikimedia Movement Charter ratification vote underway, new Council may surpass power of Board
- In focus: How the Russian Wikipedia keeps it clean despite having just a couple dozen administrators
- Discussion report: Wikipedians are hung up on the meaning of Madonna
- In the media: War and information in war and politics
- Sister projects: On editing Wikisource
- Opinion: Etika: a Pop Culture Champion
- Gallery: Spokane Willy's photos
- Humour: A joke
- Recent research: Is Wikipedia Politically Biased? Perhaps
- Traffic report: Talking about you and me, and the games people play
Books & Bytes – Issue 63
The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 63, May – June 2024
- One new partner
- 1Lib1Ref
- Spotlight: References check
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The Signpost: 22 July 2024
- Discussion report: Internet users flock to Wikipedia to debate its image policy over Trump raised-fist photo
- News and notes: Wikimedia community votes to ratify Movement Charter; Wikimedia Foundation opposes ratification
- Obituary: JamesR
- Crossword: Vaguely bird-shaped crossword
The Signpost: 14 August 2024
- In the media: Portland pol profile paid for from public purse
- In focus: Twitter marks the spot
- News and notes: Another Wikimania has concluded.
- Special report: Nano or just nothing: Will nano go nuclear?
- Opinion: HouseBlaster's RfA debriefing
- Traffic report: Ball games, movies, elections, but nothing really weird
- Humour: I'm proud to be a template