User talk:RooneyDonal21
Unsourced Irish names[edit]
Do not add unsourced self translated Irish names to articles. Per WP:IMOS all Irish names need to be in use and sourced. This means the subject in question needs to use the Irish name and we need a reference to prove this. Currently you're self-translating names into Irish which is WP:OR. This is not acceptable on Wikipedia. If the subject provides an Irish name (not an Irish language newspaper or the like using one they've made up and self-translated) and we can reference it then we can add it. However at this time there are no official Irish names for Northern Ireland train stations, however I'm sure it will come with time. Canterbury Tail talk 18:44, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- They are not unsourced you can see them here List of railway stations in Ireland RooneyDonal21 (talk) 21:28, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Wikipedia cannot be used as a source. You will need to provide a reliable source for every Irish name you try to put into an article, and not just something someone translated one day but evidence of its official usage by the organisation in question. And I just looked at those names, they were made up by a single user one day who didn't source them (there are no sources for the Irish names in that article) and hasn't edited since so they're now removed. Canterbury Tail talk 20:29, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Your edits have been reverted again. It's been explained that you cannot just list where somewhere has made a translation and call it the "official Irish name". The station in question has to actually use the name, as does its owner. An organisation in another country that just translates it for their website does not count as the actual official name of these stations. The names need to be 1) officially used and 2) used by the organisation in question. Your sources are just an organisation in another country making a translation into their own language, they don't appear at the stations or in any official material of the owning organisation. Canterbury Tail talk 14:10, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- ok i will email translink then RooneyDonal21 (talk) 15:08, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- That would then be original research and you would be unable to prove the response from them one way or another. Best way is to wait until they naturally get the Irish names. This will happen, likely in the next year or two I'd imagine. We're not in a hurry on Wikipedia. Canterbury Tail talk 15:20, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- so there's basically nothing I can do RooneyDonal21 (talk) 15:29, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Due to the fact that they don't officially have any Irish names, unfortunately yes. Until they are given official and used Irish names there isn't anything. You can't reference or use something that doesn't exist at this time. Canterbury Tail talk 17:48, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- so there's basically nothing I can do RooneyDonal21 (talk) 15:29, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- That would then be original research and you would be unable to prove the response from them one way or another. Best way is to wait until they naturally get the Irish names. This will happen, likely in the next year or two I'd imagine. We're not in a hurry on Wikipedia. Canterbury Tail talk 15:20, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- ok i will email translink then RooneyDonal21 (talk) 15:08, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Your edits have been reverted again. It's been explained that you cannot just list where somewhere has made a translation and call it the "official Irish name". The station in question has to actually use the name, as does its owner. An organisation in another country that just translates it for their website does not count as the actual official name of these stations. The names need to be 1) officially used and 2) used by the organisation in question. Your sources are just an organisation in another country making a translation into their own language, they don't appear at the stations or in any official material of the owning organisation. Canterbury Tail talk 14:10, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Wikipedia cannot be used as a source. You will need to provide a reliable source for every Irish name you try to put into an article, and not just something someone translated one day but evidence of its official usage by the organisation in question. And I just looked at those names, they were made up by a single user one day who didn't source them (there are no sources for the Irish names in that article) and hasn't edited since so they're now removed. Canterbury Tail talk 20:29, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
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