User talk:SPat/Archives/2013/October

Issues on article Juicy M

Hi, I have edited the article again. Please see if the article is up to Wikipedia's standards. If not, then please let me know the things you don't want on the article. Thank you! (Nipun Nayar 06:46, 29 September 2013 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nipunnayar (talk • contribs)

Hi, thanks for getting back about that. Unfortunately, I think the article is still problematic. In particular statements like "She is one of the most successful and sexiest DJs in the world." are a big no-no on an encyclopedia. At best what we can say is "She has been described by DJ Storm as being ...", assuming that DJ Storm is himself a very notable and reliable source. Even this "Asia’s number one clubbing web resource clubbing9ine.com" is not good - you need to add a reference for that claim. Also, as a general tip, always try to use secondary sources instead of primary sources. For example: when citing the fact that she has appeared on the cover of some magazine, you have linked to an image of the magazine. Instead, you should link to something like a news story saying "Juicy M appeared on the cover of ... magazine".

But my biggest problem is this person may not even be important enough to have a wikipedia article. The only reliable secondary source is the Arab News page - and Wikipedia's notability criteria usually require 2-3 such sources.

Hope that helps, SPat ^talk 20:11, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Hey, thank you for replying. I am trying find more references. I will edit the things you have pointed out. Apart from it, I will try to edit other topics also. (Nipun Nayar 11:37, 30 September 2013 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nipunnayar (talk • contribs)

Good luck - let me know if you need any help! SPat ^talk 19:19, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I'm sorry for not replying and editing the page after a long time. I was tied up with something. I have added some more text with references. Please have a look at it and let me know if still there is a problem with it. (Nipun Nayar 20:51, 5 October 2013 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nipunnayar (talk • contribs)

Flow Newsletter

Hey SPat. I'm dropping you a note to let you know (or remind you) about Flow, the structured discussion system for Wikipedia that we're building. You may have heard about some of the longer-term vision for Flow in the past, but in the last two months we've been moving quickly to narrow down the short-term scope of the project, and we're keen to get feedback.

First: we've written up an explanation of the "minimum viable product" – the set of features that will be in the first, on-wiki deployment. Because discussions on Wikipedia are complex and varied, we're approaching Flow development as an incremental process of uncovering user needs for different types of discussion. The first release will be limited to a few WikiProject talkpages only, with the goal of testing out our first stab at peer-to-peer discussion functionality and improving it based on feedback from the WikiProject members who use it. If you've got any thoughts on the MVP, or on the philosophy we're trying to follow with this software, let us know on the Flow talkpage. If you know of a WikiProject that might be interested in testing this out, let Maryana know on her talkpage :)

Second: we're having a set of discussions around some experimental features we'll be trying in the first release. These include indenting and nesting of comments and comment editing. If you've got any practical thoughts on these, we'd appreciate hearing them. For background and feedback on the design, there are the ongoing set of design iteration notes, a Design FAQ, and a page for design feedback.

The software prototype is still in early development, and changing daily in small ways, with major goals updating every 2 weeks. If you've got comments about other bits of the software, we'll be holding an IRC office hours session in #wikimedia-office at 18:00 UTC on 17 November to talk about Flow as a whole, and fielding questions on the talkpage before and after then.

Third: this is a pre-newsletter announcement of a new WP:Flow/Newsletter signup page! If you'd like further updates, details, and requests for input, please add your name there.

Thanks, Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:02, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Due to multiple-human-error (the best kind of error!) the Office Hours meeting was announced with the wrong month. The logs for today's (quiet) meeting, can be seen at m:IRC office hours#Office hour logs.

The updated time and date of our next IRC office hours meeting is: 18:00 UTC on 24 October. Thanks, and sorry about the mixup. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 21:48, 17 October 2013 (UTC)