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August - September 2015


Cilla Black[edit]

Time to semi-protect Cilla Black? Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 12:32, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@JMHamo: I'm keeping an eye on it. I've blocked 86.21.206.168 so hopefully it'll be fine for the moment. There's quite a lot of helpful unregistered editing happening so I don't want to protect if I can avoid it for now. Sam Walton (talk) 12:33, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. Thanks JMHamo (talk) 12:51, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@JMHamo: Protected, it was getting a little out of hand. Sam Walton (talk) 12:52, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Administrator Intervention against vandalism[edit]

Hello, I wanted to let you know that Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism could really use some attention. 99.53.112.186 (talk) 19:26, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Handled a few older requests. Sam Walton (talk) 19:35, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2015-32[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The ContentTranslation extension has been updated:
    • You can now type in list paragraphs on wikis with right-to-left scripts. [1]
    • Some user interface updates changed how details in the ContentTranslation extension look. [2] [3] [4] [5]
  • The error page you see when the sites are not working is now simpler and easier to read. It also shows the Wikimedia logo. [6]
  • MediaWiki now supports redirects for CSS pages. [7]
  • Bots can't guess captchas unlimited times anymore. [8]

Problems

  • There was a problem with thumbnails on wikis with local images on July 24 and 25. It was due to a code error. [9]
  • We can't search by file type on Wikimedia wikis now. [10]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 4. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from August 5. It will be on all Wikipedias from August 6 (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on August 4 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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15:51, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

protecting the list of kings of persia article[edit]

Hello. If you look at the revision history for the article: List of kings of Persia, you'll see that there has been a lot of vandalism recently, like people writing Justin Bieber or putting random names in the place of kings. Knowing you are an administrator I think you could help me and I think you could help protect the article from vandalism. Thanks :) History of Persia (talk) 21:12, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ANI thread closure[edit]

I suppose I won't seek to undo it, as what you did is consistent with standard procedure, but for what it's worth, I wish that you hadn't closed the ANI thread on the legal-threats block issue as quickly as you did. I took considerable time writing a lengthy ANI posting because I thought it important for this often-discussed-but-never-really-resolved issue to receive careful attention on a high-traffic page like ANI, which is frequented by the administrators who enforce the policy on a day-to-day basis, and not just on a relative backwater like WT:NLT. Oh well. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 14:49, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Newyorkbrad: Apologies, when I went to close it I did hesitate for a moment, but as the incident had been dealt with I thought the discussion could carry on elsewhere. I'm sure you would get a good amount of input if you posted on AN that a discussion was taking place. I don't see it as particularly controversial to include a note about it in the archived ANI discussion either. Sam Walton (talk) 14:52, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Newyorkbrad: Oh, by the way, what are your plans for User:Newyorkbrad/sandbox? Sam Walton (talk) 20:00, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think I've taken the drafting as far as I can, given my limited knowledge of edit filters, and I'm ready to hand it off to someone with a more sophisticated knowledge, who can (among other things) implement the suggestions from Risker and others on the talkpage before moving it into policy-draft space. I need to post a note to this effect on the relevant page(s), but I've been distracted by commenting on a couple of other things. I'll do that in the next day or so, or if anyone reading here gets to it before me, please be my guest.
I'll also open the discussion of the legal-threats issue on WT:NLT, but I'll be mostly offline for a family event between Friday and Monday, so will probably do that next week. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:04, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Newyorkbrad: I'd be happy to organise discussion about it. Would it make sense to move it to a sub page of WP:EF for now? Sam Walton (talk) 10:51, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sure... I'll be back from a trip tomorrow night and can circle back to this then. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 13:54, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 05 August 2015[edit]

Einstein coefficient[edit]

i think it can not be right...if you just take the ratio of A21/B21....you will see....that ratio donot equal to F(v) Qchao (talk) 19:41, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Qchao: Hmm, you're right. I looked at some sources and the equations were right, so I'm not understanding something. I'll post at WikiProject Physics and see if we can get someone who knows more than I do to pitch in. Sam Walton (talk) 20:52, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

RE: you can find the relationship between the cross section and the A,B coefficient in paper by Robet C. Hilborn, Am. J. Phys. 50(11), 1982, 982. 'cross section'=hv*B12/C=(1/4)(g2/g1)(c/v)^2*A21...it is clear that the B equation you posted in is not right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qchao (talk • contribs) 07:22, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

On Özdere[edit]

It is done, Sam! As of yesterday, the article on Özdere is fully completed and nominated for DYK. I encourage you to provide feedback and to contribute yourself, I would love to see this article eventually reach WP:GA or WP:FA. The best to you, my friend, Coderenius (☎) 17:13, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Coderenius: Wow, that's looking a bit better than it used to! I'll take a look through as I did with the other article if I get time. Sam Walton (talk) 20:57, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Block filter[edit]

Hey Sam, I am a new user and I am writing a report for college about Wikipedia (ethics report)

I want to know if there are any edit filters or tools which admins can use to block people without the person they blocked knowing who the admin is who blocked them??? If not is there anyway to create such filters or tools??

Also do admins have tools where they can edit an article and not have anyone know that they made the revision like if ADMINJane added that Koopa Troopa was a hidden character in Mario Kart 64 article on August 11 2015 at 2:30pm could she disguise the fact that she added it (as an admin) if not can tools or edit filters be created to make this a reality. Thanks keep up the good work — Preceding unsigned comment added by DadaBailey3 (talk • contribs) 20:47, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@DadaBailey3: Hi. The short answer is no, one of the core principles of Wikipedia is that a full history of edits and actions are logged so that editors can be held accountable for the actions they take.
That said, there are technical ways in which edit filters and tools can hide the author of certain actions. The abuse filter extension software is capable of issuing blocks, though that functionality isn't currently enabled on the English Wikipedia, and if an editor was blocked by tripping an edit filter there would be no one admin listed as the blocker, the editor would have just been automatically blocked by the software. There is also the oversight ability, possessed by only a small number of editors, which can be used to hide log entries, though this is never used to hide entries from block logs as far as I am aware; it's primarily used to suppress edits. Hope that helps :) Sam Walton (talk) 21:14, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for the protection.

While it doesn't bother me personally and while adults also watch these shows (guilty as charged, haha!), as these shows are aimed toward younger audiences, could all of these users' contributions from today be hidden from public view? With teenagers it's inevitable, but for kids, I don't think most are quite ready for this stuff, and I wouldn't want them stumbling across it here. :) Thanks!

These are the articles affected, as there were some other users involved as well:

Amaury (talk) 23:53, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Amaury: I'm not sure it quite qualifies per the revdel criteria. It perhaps fits #3, being of little merit to the project. but I'm not sure it's so concerning that revdeling all of those edits would be particularly beneficial. I'm undecided though and another admin might disagree with me. Sam Walton (talk) 00:25, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:Plant-based diet[edit]

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Plant-based diet. Legobot (talk) 00:03, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2015-33[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • MediaWiki can now hide the signature button when you edit a content page. [11]
  • The "Your preferences have been saved" message has changed. You can now see more easily what was saved when you change preferences several times. [12]
  • You can now play Ogg video files in some browsers that don't support this format. This solution uses JavaScript and works on desktop browsers only for now. It will work on mobile later. [13]
  • You can now use the same tools to edit style in VisualEditor on mobile as in desktop browsers. [14]
  • It is now easier to see if there is a JavaScript error in a user or site script. [15]
  • JavaScript authors:
    • You can no longer use the Sajax library. You can see a list of pages to fix. [16] [17]
    • You can no longer use document.write on Wikimedia wikis. You can see a list of pages to fix. [18] [19]
  • The content translation tool now works better. It is easier to use math, and useless tags are no longer added. [20]

Problems

  • More edits have been rejected due to loss of session data lately. This is now fixed. [21]
  • Importing a Lua module sometimes didn't work. This is now fixed. [22]
  • Text was sometimes lost in the content translation tool. One part of the problem is now fixed. [23]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 11. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from August 12. It will be on all Wikipedias from August 13 (calendar).
  • UploadWizard is getting a new look. The look of buttons and checkboxes has already changed. This week, UploadWizard gets a new date picker. The other text fields will change soon. [24]
  • You can now test VisualEditor on mobile devices of all sizes. [25]

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on August 11 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • Some things in the watchlist will get a new look. [26]

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14:58, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Question[edit]

So question, fixing the redirect I understand but is there a listing somewhere that the template was used and would it be reasonable to think that had only been used once? Hell in a Bucket (talk) 16:28, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Hell in a Bucket: Hmm. Special:WhatLinksHere/Wikipedia:SECONDCHANCE is likely how they navigated there since that user's talk page is one of the entries. That was the only entry that was a transclusion (the slightly odd {{WP:SECONDCHANCE}}) which is likely why they altered it; the template would have transcluded all of WP:ROPE if left alone. I also think it's unlikely they're a sock of that user given the way each of them write. Sam Walton (talk) 16:34, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK I didn't know there was a listing so that makes much more sense. It was extremely weak but thanks for looking into it though. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 16:37, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 12 August 2015[edit]

Reference errors on 14 August[edit]

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Removing unsourced material[edit]

I've laid my case here. I argue that the WP:VERIFY was not intended to allow for blanket deletions of unsourced material, and that such deletions do require justification. The very first section says this: "Whether and how quickly material should be initially removed for not having a reliable source depends on the material and the overall state of the article." Furthermore, "editors may object if you remove material without giving them time to provide references; consider adding a citation needed tag as an interim step." And last but not least - "If you think the material is verifiable, you are encouraged to provide an inline citation yourself before considering whether to remove or tag it.".

Giving editors blanket authority to immediately remove any unsourced material will result not only in the destruction of otherwise perfectly legitimate material, but also in significant damage to the communal nature of Wikipedia. This is why we have nearly four dozen "citation needed" templates, and why Wikipedia guidelines stress again and again the need for consensus. The guidelines for deletion of unsourced material, as quoted above, encourage an editor to avoid deletion as much as possible, and provide every chance for future editors to source otherwise legitimate material. Not only that, but they also encourage the editors to do the work on their own, on par with Wikipedia's tenet "Be bold". This is a far cry from giving editors a blanket authority to delete any un- or under-sourced material they encounter when they encounter it, avoiding discussion and ignoring any consideration pertaining to the quality of the material and the state of the article where it resides.

And were it exactly that, then there are some 19,414 articles with issues of factual verification awaiting deletion. François Robere (talk) 19:07, 15 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@François Robere: This is essentially Wikilawyering at this point; you were asked to add sources and regardless of whether the info was removed or not, adding sources was the solution to the situation. Sam Walton (talk) 20:45, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This is exactly the point, and I've tried to make it as clear as sunshine: The issue is not the material itself, nor the article where it resides, but how one person can destroy perfectly good material on his own accord without giving any chance for repairs or improvement.
And I don't see how my argument is in any way similar to what you're implying, not even remotely so. On the contrary - your and the other fella's argument is based solely on technicalities, while my claim is that your insistence on technicalities contradicts the tenets of Wikipedia. In your very source: "Wikipedia policies and procedures should be interpreted with common sense to achieve the purpose of the policy, or help dispute resolution" - can you honestly say that your "he was within his right to remove the material with no discussion or notice despite it being perfectly good otherwise" achieves the purpose of WP:VERIFY or helps dispute resolution? How can you possibly claim that? The fact is that had I not noticed the change there would be no dispute, but there would be no material either. And in case it wasn't clear - it doesn't matter in the slightest what article we're talking about, and whether I worked on it or not: a person who goes about destroying other editors' work (in this case multiple editors) on his own accord, without giving any chance whatsoever for discussion or correction (and he didn't, and I only noticed the change by chance) does not serve the purpose of Wikipedia. That's the point! Not whether or not the material was properly sourced or not; or whether it could've been sourced better; or whether it should've been removed one day had it stayed the same; the point is that had I not noticed the deletion the material would've been lost forever because of one editor's sense of "how things should be done"; no citations would ever have been added, no improvements would ever have been made, because one editor decided to simply delete the material rather than voice his concerns and giving others the chance to relieve them. That's the point, and if you're backing his way of doing things - and you are - we might as well throw away all 19,414 under-sourced articles and four dozen citation templates that we use, because who needs them anyway. François Robere (talk) 22:19, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Surf Snowdonia[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:32, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2015-34[edit]

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Recent changes

  • Many Wikipedias can now use information from any Wikidata item in any Wikipedia article. Before they could only use the Wikidata item that matched the subject of the article. [27] [28] [29]
  • Some auto-saving problems and other issues in the Content Translation tool are now fixed. Please report to the Content Translation feedback page if you still have problems. [30]

Problems

  • Older gadgets that are not using ResourceLoader are not loading anymore. They need to be updated. [31] [32]
  • On August 12 the machine translation servers and the Content Translation tool didn't work. This was fixed on the same day. [33]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 18. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from August 19. It will be on all Wikipedias from August 20 (calendar).
  • You can soon watch when something is added to or removed from a category. [34]

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on August 18 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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16:17, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 19 August 2015[edit]

Why did you deleted article about Ahmed Mughal[edit]

Why did you deleted article about Ahmed Mughal--Jogi 007 (talk) 11:19, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Jogi don: The article did not make a credible claim of significance and thus was eligible for speedy deletion. All articles on Wikipedia must be notable and cite reliable sources of information per the verifiability policy. Sam Walton (talk) 14:33, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmed Mughal is notable Sindhi singer in Sindh Pakistan Jogi 007 (talk) 07:37, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Allman Brothers Band[edit]

Would ya' like to continue your review here? -- Frankie talk 10:57, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@FrB.TG: Apologies, I missed this. Sam Walton (talk) 14:34, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Astronomy[edit]

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Astronomy. Legobot (talk) 00:03, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Use of quotations in article titles[edit]

Although the policy does say to avoid using quotation marks in a BLP title, there have a been of decisions otherwise based on community decision. Editors voted use the name Ed "Too Tall" Jones for one article for instance. So it's been debated for a while whether to use a person's real name or their gamer name in the title and there's never really been any leeway. Anyways I just wanted to make sure we're on the same page here.--Prisencolinensinainciusol (talk) 06:53, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Prisencolinensinainciusol: I have no issue with using usernames as people's article names; per WP:COMMONNAME we should use the most common usage after all. I think there's room for debate as to whether his real name or username is most commonly used in sources, but I'm not really bothered either way. Sam Walton (talk) 14:36, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2015-35[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Disambiguation pages are now excluded from the random page function. [35]

Problems

  • There was a problem with CAPTCHAs in VisualEditor. This has now been fixed. [36]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 25. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from August 26. It will be on all Wikipedias from August 27 (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on August 25 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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13:02, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of YouTube Gaming[edit]

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A tag has been placed on YouTube Gaming requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about something invented/coined/discovered by the article's creator or someone they know personally, and it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Hitro talk 19:19, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 26 August 2015[edit]

Invite to Editathon[edit]

Hi, I am organising another Editathon - this time at Clitheroe Castle. The details are at Wikipedia:GLAM/Clitheroe Castle Museum. Would be great if you could come. Jhayward001 (talk) 08:52, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2015-36[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • VisualEditor will now automatically create a link when you type in or paste an ISBN, PMID, or RFC. [37][38]
  • The link editor in VisualEditor is now a bit wider. It's now the same width as the automatic citation tool. [39]
  • VisualEditor gadget authors can no longer use the backwards-compatibility module ext.visualEditor.viewPageTarget.init. Use ext.visualEditor.desktopArticleTarget.init instead. [40]
  • Gadget writers can now use mediawiki.ForeignApi to communicate between different Wikimedia wikis. [41]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from September 1. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from September 2. It will be on all Wikipedias from September 3 (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on September 1 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • The Wikidata API will be updated with breaking changes. This will probably happen on September 9. [42]

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21:37, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

WikiCup 2015 September newsletter[edit]

The finals for the 2015 Wikicup has now begun! Congrats to the 8 contestants who have survived to the finals, and well done and thanks to everyone who took part in rounds 3 and 4.

In round 3, we had a three-way tie for qualification among the wildcard contestants, so we had 34 competitors. The leader was by far Scotland Casliber (submissions) in Group B, who earned 1496 points. Although 913 of these points were bonus points, he submitted 15 articles in the DYK category. Second place overall was Philadelphia Coemgenus (submissions) at 864 points, who although submitted just 2 FAs for 400 points, earned double that amount for those articles in bonus points. Everyone who moved forward to Round 4 earned at least 100 points.

The scores required to move onto the semifinals were impressive; the lowest scorer to move onto the finals was 407, making this year's Wikicup as competitive as it's always been. Our finalists, ordered by round 4 score, are:

  1. Belarus Cas Liber (submissions), who is competing in his sixth consecutive Wikicup final, again finished the round in first place, with an impressive 1666 points in Pool B. Casliber writes about the natural sciences, including ornithology, botany and astronomy. A large bulk of his points this round were bonus points.
  2. Smithsonian Institution Godot13 (submissions) (FP bonus points), second place both in Pool B and overall, earned the bulk of his points with FPs, mostly depicting currency.
  3. Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions), first in Pool A, came in third. His specialty is natural science articles; in Round 4, he mostly submitted articles about insects and botany. Five out of the six of the GAs he submitted were level-4 vital articles.
  4. Somerset Harrias (submissions), second in Pool A, took fourth overall. He tends to focus on articles about cricket and military history, specifically the 1640s First English Civil War.
  5. Washington, D.C. West Virginian (submissions), from Pool A, was our highest-scoring wildcard. West Virginia tends to focus on articles about the history of (what for it!) the U.S. state of West Virginia.
  6. Somerset Rodw (submissions), from Pool A, likes to work on articles about British geography and places. Most of his points this round were earned from two impressive accomplishments: a GT about Scheduled monuments in Somerset and a FT about English Heritage properties in Somerset.
  7. United States Rationalobserver (submissions), from Pool B, came in seventh overall. RO earned the majority of her points from GARs and PRs, many of which were earned in the final hours of the round.
  8. England Calvin999 (submissions), also from Pool B, who was competing with RO for the final two spots in the final hours, takes the race for most GARs and PRs—48.

The intense competition between RO and Calvin999 will continue into the finals. They're both eligible for the Newcomers Trophy, given for the first time in the Wikicup; whoever makes the most points will win it.

Good luck to the finalists; the judges are sure that the competition will be fierce!

Figureskatingfan (talk · contribs), Miyagawa (talk · contribs) and Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs) 11:48, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 02 September 2015[edit]

Student edits[edit]

Hello Samwalton9, I'm new to Wikipedia, so I hope I am doing this correctly. You were asking earlier about my moving pages and other activity. I am a lecturer at a university in Australia and I have set an assignment for undergraduate students to create or edit Wikipedia articles on a given topic. I had to move some student pages out of their sandboxes to ensure they could publish their articles before the assignment deadline. There are approximately 70 students working on this assignment. I am working in partnership with some local Wikipedians. Thanks, Lydia Ldawe (talk) 09:39, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Ldawe: Hi Lydia, thank you for the response, this does clear some things up for me. Could you confirm whether the accounts listed at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Annamaree96 are students of yours? If so I'll retract the investigation. You might consider getting involved with the education program if you haven't already, which makes these kinds of projects more obvious to other Wikipedians. Thanks, Sam Walton (talk) 09:43, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Samwalton9, no I'm not part of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Annamaree96. There's a discussion currently happening here about my project: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Australian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board#Health-related_articles_.E2.80.93_UNDA Ldawe (talk) 02:30, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2015-37[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can now mention up to 50 users in a post and they will get a notification. Previously you could notify up to 20 users. [43]
  • A new version of the Wikidata Toolkit has been released. It now has Wikibase API support. [44]
  • You can now use Wikidata to find all good or featured articles in a Wikipedia version. [45]

Problems

  • There was a problem with Tool Labs due to kernel issues. This has been fixed. [46]
  • The Content Translation tool published some pages with the same reference repeated several times. This has been fixed. [47][48]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from September 8. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from September 9. It will be on all Wikipedias from September 10 (calendar).
  • The maximum character length when you search for something on the Wikimedia wikis is now 300 characters. [49]
  • The notifications list has been split into two lists. As a first step, notifications about messages on your user talk page will be placed in the second list. Feedback is requested at the Echo talk page. [50][51]

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on September 8 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join the Wikitech ambassadors mailing list. The list is for Wikimedians interested in spreading information about Wikimedia technology news. See how to join.

Future changes

  • The Wikimedia mailing lists will be moved to a new server and the software will be upgraded. This will happen on September 9 at 14:00 (UTC). The mailing lists will not be working during the move. It can take up to four hours. [52]
  • Wikidata will soon be able to store measurements, such as a mountain's height or the distance between two places. [53][54]

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17:29, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Please edit Special:AbuseFilter/673[edit]

Edits and attempted edits by a recent sock (Special:Contributions/184.20.202.177) of the user give me the impression that the user is testing out the edit filter, and trying to see how to bypass it. It seems that the user has now discovered that he can bypass it by posting in user talk space. Can you modify the filter to also check user talk space, in addition to user space and article space? Gparyani (talk) 17:32, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Gparyani: Thanks for the heads up. I'm not sure it's worth adding user talk just yet, but I'll keep an eye on this and if they keep using that namespace I'll add it. Sam Walton (talk) 08:32, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"you've been blocked and can't edit..."[edit]

Would you mind if I ran another test? I'm thinking of blocking your alternate account with autoblock to see whether things work differently. If that's all right with you, please leave me a Notification and immediately switch to the alt account, so by the time I block you, you're already in the alt. Once you're satisfied with the test, just Notify me again and I'll unblock; please remember that lifting the block causes all related autoblocks to disappear, so you won't suffer unintended ramifications afterward. Nyttend (talk) 23:08, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Nyttend: Sorry, I went offline shortly before you sent this. I just tried autoblock and the same thing happened, though the message this time read "Your IP address is blocked from editing." rather than "you've been blocked". Same behaviour regarding what can be edited though. Sam Walton (talk) 08:30, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, having said that, I just looked at the screenshot I took and that also says IP despite the fact I didn't autoblock and was logged in. Sam Walton (talk) 08:34, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:Type 054A frigate[edit]

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Type 054A frigate. Legobot (talk) 00:04, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to subscribe to the edit filter mailing list[edit]

Hi, as a user in the edit filter manager user group we wanted to let you know about the new wikipedia-en-editfilters mailing list. As part of our recent efforts to improve the use of edit filters on the English Wikipedia it has been established as a venue for internal discussion by edit filter managers regarding private filters (those only viewable by administrators and edit filter managers) and also as a means by which non-admins can ask questions about hidden filters that wouldn't be appropriate to discuss on-wiki. As an edit filter manager we encourage you to subscribe; the more users we have in the mailing list the more useful it will be to the community. If you subscribe we will send a short email to you through Wikipedia to confirm your subscription, but let us know if you'd prefer another method of verification. I'd also like to take the opportunity to invite you to contribute to the proposed guideline for edit filter use at WP:Edit filter/Draft and the associated talk page. Thank you! Sam Walton (talk) and MusikAnimal talk 18:22, 9 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Edit filter list[edit]

Thank you for the invitation; the list seems like a smart thing to do. However, I"m stepping down from my role with the WMF next week, and the edit filter manager permissions were held by virtue of that role, so I'm going to not subscribe. Good luck! Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 00:08, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 09 September 2015[edit]

Page deletion[edit]

Why did you delete my page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.64.123.149 (talk) 15:55, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Which page? Sam Walton (talk) 16:25, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, Osia Italia, because it was unambiguously promotional. Wikipedia is not for advertising and all articles must be written in a neutral tone. Sam Walton (talk) 16:27, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2015-38[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can now use the Wikidata query service. [55]
  • Belarusian-Taraškievica Wikipedia was moved from be-x-old.wikipedia.org to be-tarask.wikipedia.org. This caused some issues, but most of them were resolved. [56]
  • Language preferences might not be changed immediately when you adjust them. Language selection might work slower. Please report any problems. [57][58]

Problems

  • There was a problem when editing International Standard Book Numbers in Visual Editor. This has now been fixed. [59]
  • The Wikimedia mailing lists should have been upgraded on September 9. It didn't work as planned and will now happen later. [60]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from September 15. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from September 16. It will be on all Wikipedias from September 17 (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on September 15 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • ContentTranslation will show more data on the Special:ContentTranslationStats page. For example, it will show translation trends and information about deleted translations. [61]
  • The first version of the translation suggestions feature will be deployed soon. [62]

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16:18, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

The Raven – Legacy of a Master Thief[edit]

User talk:Repku#The Raven – Legacy of a Master Thief <- Left you a message on my talk page. Repku (talk) 22:07, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

!admin[edit]

I looked at HexChat's source code, and it's incapable of setting up highlights for something with an ! in it. I resort to using ZNC's watch feature to make it work. Jackmcbarn (talk) 03:03, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Jackmcbarn: Thanks for looking into that! :) Sam Walton (talk) 08:09, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The Signpost: 16 September 2015[edit]

Tech News: 2015-39[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • There is now an experimental Wikimedia maps service. You can give feedback here. [63][64]
  • Last week a few issues with UploadWizard were fixed. Before this was done, UploadWizard would stop you from uploading your files if something went wrong. [65][66][67][68]
  • More Wikipedias can now use information from any Wikidata item in any Wikipedia article. Previously they could only use the Wikidata item that matched the subject of the article. [69]
  • The VisualEditor welcome dialogue has been changed. The intention is to make it more helpful for new users. [70]

Problems

  • Wikimedia Labs' HTTPS certificate expired for most of Tuesday 15 September. To reach Wikimedia Labs and Tool Labs securely you had to ignore your browser's security error message. There was no risk to data security during this time. [71]
  • Last week the notification system was split into two parts. This was temporarily undone because of a bug and performance concerns. It will return to two parts this week. [72][73]
  • UploadWizard couldn't upload files larger than 5 MB when using chunked uploads. This has now been fixed. [74]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from September 22. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from September 23. It will be on all Wikipedias from September 24 (calendar).
  • The page move tool has been switched over to the new standard look for forms. [75]
  • You can now choose whether to extend a link or not when editing one in VisualEditor. This means it is easier to choose how much of what you type before and after the link is part of it. [76]
  • Wikibooks can now use data from Wikidata. [77]

Meetings

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18:29, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Faith healing[edit]

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Faith healing. Legobot (talk) 00:02, 24 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You were mentioned[edit]

I mentioned you at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Sloopcaptain. Just FYI. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 04:40, 25 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 23 September 2015[edit]

Adderbury Park F.C.[edit]

Hello Sam, could you please redirect Adderbury Park F.C. per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adderbury Park Football Club and Admin protect it from being reverted again. Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 19:20, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@JMHamo: Thanks for letting me know. I've reverted but won't protect yet unless necessary. Sam Walton (talk) 19:23, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
OK, cool but I have a feeling there is going to be a revert war on this :)... keep an eye out! Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 19:25, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Time for action? Reverted again, take a look at the edit history... Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 21:54, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2015-40[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • In UploadWizard, the dialog to see an image preview has been removed. You already see the images in the thumbnails when you upload them. [78]
  • UploadWizard dialogs look a bit different now. They have been updated to the new OOUI look. [79]
  • You can now edit music scores in VisualEditor. You can add new sheet music scores and get live updates when you edit one. [80]
  • When you send an e-mail to another editor using Special:EmailUser, that user will now get a notification on the wiki as well. [81]
  • You can now see 500 images when you upload images from Flickr with UploadWizard. Before this change the limit was 50. [82]
  • The Wikimedia mailing lists have been upgraded. [83]
  • MediaWiki developers spent a day looking at proposed code changes in Gerrit. The goal was to clean up the backlog and give feedback to volunteer developers. [84]

Problems

  • Some visitors had problems reaching the Wikimedia sites for an hour on September 24. [85][86]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from September 29. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from September 30. It will be on all Wikipedias from October 1 (calendar).
  • There will be a new beta feature that allows editors to use Flow on their user talkpage if they want to. Each wiki can decide if they want to enable it. [87]
  • The Content Translation tool can give translation suggestions. This feature will now be available in more languages: English, French, Spanish, Russian, Chinese, Turkish, Japanese, Italian, and Catalan. [88]

Meetings

Future changes

  • The Wikimedia Foundation developers want the community to decide who can use OAuth in the future. You can discuss it on Meta.

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15:15, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

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