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List of isomers of tridecane

Hi @Sbb: you recently created List of isomers of tridecane but you didn't add any sources. I'm just asking if you could add some because (as I'm sure you already know) of Wikipedia's verifiability policy. Thanks.  Seagull123  Φ  22:19, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Copyright question: Lists of isomers of Alkanes

Short question: Are the sources used by the Lists of isomers of (n)-alkanes articles copyrighted, or do the lists of isomers fall under fair use?

Background

This question pertains to the following 6 list articles:

1. List of isomers of nonane
2. List of isomers of decane
3. List of isomers of undecane
4. List of isomers of dodecane
5. List of isomers of tridecane
6. List of isomers of tetradecane

Prior to 28 November 2015, only the first 4 articles existed (-nonane — -docane). I created the -tridecane and -tetradecane articles on 28 Nov, by copying the data from http://www.scribd.com/doc/56047899/Constitutional-Isomers-of-Alkanes#scribd. I neglected to cite my sources when I committed, and @User:Seagull123 helpfully asked me to do so. (see also initial discussion of the issue).

I am only able to find 3 such lists of isomers of alkanes up to tetradecane on the internet, and they all seem to be exact copies of each other:

• http://www.scribd.com/doc/56047899/Constitutional-Isomers-of-Alkanes#scribd (the one I cited in -tridecane and -tetradecane)
• http://www.chemicalland21.com/info/Constitutional%20Isomers%20Of%20Alkanes.htm
• http://www.kentchemistry.com/links/organic/isomersofalkanes.htm (the one cited in -nonane)

I have reversed my thinking from the original discussion on @User:Seagull123's talk page. I believe the lists of isomers is non-copyrightable, much as a list of States in the United States is simply statement of fact. The sequence of the number of isomers for the first n alkanes is, in more general terms, the number of n-node unrooted quartic trees (graph theory). The naming of the isomers is formulaic, following IUPAC rules.

While Wikipedia:Copyright in lists is an essay, not policy, I think it and its talk page are very instructive in the conversation.

References

• Helped The first question I ask myself is not one of copyright but "what's the encyclopedic use of such lists?". If I was you I would post the above on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chemistry to get broader, more informed feedback. Sam Sailor ^Talk! 12:24, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Heiva moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Heiva, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. _pseudonym Jake Brockman ^talk 11:11, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

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