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Noah Levine/BLP

I reverted your edit on Noah Levine and tweaked the wording slightly... My quotation of the release was not intended to come across as a scare quote- since it wasn't a formal legal proceeding, I thought it was better to use their language for describing their standard for reaching a decision. Similarly, I'm a little hesitant to wl to preponderance of evidence because it isn't clear that they were operating from the formal legal definition of that term, rather than a common sense understanding. Just trying to be as clear and specific as possible since this is a BLP and a sensitive issue, but I'm not committed to the current wording- just seems better to err on the side of caution not try to summarize or gloss their language in a way that might give the wrong impression. --Spasemunki (talk) 17:12, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. Let's discuss it more on the article's talk page. - Scarpy (talk) 17:38, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Transport puzzle

Per commentary on my user talk page, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Transport puzzle has been reopened and the article has been restored for the time being. North America1000 01:07, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

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You might want to take a look at Talk:Alcoholics Anonymous

If you get a chance, take a look at Talk:Alcoholics Anonymous; there's a new editor who kept trying to put edits in Alcoholics Anonymous until an admin had to intervene by semi-protecting the page from new users. He is engaging with us on the talk page, but I am the only one replying to him. Defendingaa (talk) 15:04, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

@Defendingaa: thanks... it's kind of a mixed blessing, The kind of things gets my interested again. :) - Scarpy (talk) 01:49, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

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Wish

Hello. Help improve and copy edit for article Maureen Wroblewitz. Thanks you. Tauthanhhuyen34 (talk) 03:55, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Will have a look. - Scarpy (talk) 05:57, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

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Kendraio page deletion

Hello Scarpy, I'm trying to work out what went on. A page about an organisation I work for has been deleted. I think the reason cited is: "Editor's summary: in 17 years it doesn't looks like a reference has been addeed". Questions... is there a way to reinstate the page if I promise to add an update? And is it also normal for there to be no warning before a page deletion? Many thanks. Cheers Daniel (talk) 12:26, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

@Dahacouk: It's not personal. I was looking for articles discussing micropayments and came across it to see that it was running afoul of the WP:GNG pretty blatantly, and most of the citations were WP:SPS (check out both of those). If there are more secondary sources mentioning the organization, we can add them and look at recreating the article, but it was an article that hadn't been edited in nearly 17 years with no secondary sources cited to demonstrate notability. - Scarpy (talk) 18:30, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
@Scarpy: I don't take it personal. I'm sure you were just acting to the letter of the law. It would have been nice to get a chance to defend though...
1. Are you saying that there is no way to get back the old page and just update it with links and references? The reason I ask is I'm a bit OCD about truth, continuity and attribution and if we started a page 17 years ago then it's nice for that to be acknowledged and stated and in the version history.
2. Are you saying we are going to have to start again from scratch with no version history? I hate losing version history.
3. I acknowledge that the page was lacking references. We have references to Kendraio from the European Commission and the Google News Initiative as you can see at: https://www.kendra.io/funding
4. Kendraio is a personal passion for over 20 years. It is nonprofit and open source. I want to see open protocols everywhere. I think this is a good thing for humans. I'd like to be able to defend having a Wikipedia page. It would also be nice to have help because I feel this is a good thing and should be supported. What do you think? Cheers Daniel (talk) 12:57, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
You had 17 years to "defend." I'll point you back to the WP:GNG to familiarize yourself with the notability guidelines. If parts of those aren't clear, let me know. - Scarpy (talk) 15:49, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
@Scarpy: Is "You had 17 years to 'defend'" entirely fair? I mean I hear you completely but I didn't know that the Kendraio page was under notice of being deleted. I mean I didn't know that it had to be defended because I didn't know it was under 'attack'. Was it and I just couldn't find it? This is beginning to sound like "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy": you know where the plans to destroy the Earth have been posted in the Intergalactic Council. ;-) Anyway, let's not dwell on this issue. I'm cool. You deleted it. That's fine. We go forward...
5. With regards to "significant coverage" is the fact that the European Commission and the Google News Initiative make reference to Kendraio not good enough to validate Kendraio's existence? Cheers Daniel (talk) 17:05, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
@Dahacouk: I nominated it for speedy deletion and it was deleted by Athaenara, meeting the criteria for WP:G11. If people post promotional material on Wikipedia how much notice do you think they deserve? The goal here is to develop and maintain an encyclopedia, not a platform for self-promotion. How much debate should be necessary to remove advertising from an encyclopedia?
Significant coverage means people need to write on the topic of Kendraio and publish it. Are there non-self-published sources specifically about Kendraio? Are there peer-reviewed articles about Kendraio? Not seeing any. Has a reputable publisher published a book on Kendraio? Doesn't look like it. How about newspapers? Not seeing anything there either. If there's things I missed here, feel free to point them out and we can use them as sources for the article. If not, well... that's my point. - Scarpy (talk) 20:05, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

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