User talk:SephardicScholar
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Niels Bohr
[edit]I reverted your changes at Niels Bohr, as they didn't seem particularly relevant. As a person, Bohr was an atheist, and the variant of his Jewish heritage doesn't seem to have had any notable impact on his life or career. If you still want to make this edit, please discuss it on the talk page at Talk:Niels Bohr. Thanks, Tarl.Neustaedter (talk) 02:55, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- I've responded to your comments on the Talk:Niels Bohr page. As an aside, since you bring up the issue of prejudice, I myself happen to be descended from both Ashkenazi and Sephardic communities. I just don't feel that describing Niels Bohr as "Danish-Sephardic" is appropriate for the article. Tarl.Neustaedter (talk) 03:37, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
I'm both Ashkenazic and Sephardic as well, but mentioning that is a failing in this debate, as Ashkenazim are some of the most historically prejudiced groups against the Sephardic community, with an act of genocide and racial supremacy theorists in Israel with the radiation of many Sephardic Jews under the guise of lice treatment. This is a group which you will not erase from history on the basis of Ashkenazic racial supremacy. Everyone knows Albert Einstein to be Ashkenazic, so why must no one know of Bohr's community of origin.
Indeed, many of Einstein's theories first appeared in the writings of Jules Henri Poincaré, which he reworked and became part of his image more as a Zionist leader. At this time in history, Ashkenazim were viewed as unoriginal in their contributions to modern culture and learning and Einstein was in some ways more of a figure head for the Jewish intellectual, a proof of Zionist aspirations to liberate the intellectual contributions of the modern Jew. Zionism colored his role as a world thinker. Making the distinction that Bohr was Sephardic brings clarity to the differences between a Jewish intellectual of Sephardic stock and a Jewish intellectual of Ashkenazic stock at this time in history when the Ashkenazim still had yet to prove themselves on the world stage as having meaningful impact. The Sephardic community at this time was still the premier image of the Jew in a Western purview. --SephardicScholar (talk • contribs) 00:00, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
- Please review the essays at WP:UNDUE, WP:GREATWRONGS and WP:SPA, which may provide insight to this discussion. Regards, Tarl.Neustaedter (talk) 05:10, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
The purpose of this edit is not to address any great wrong, and the purpose of this account is not to spread a Sephardic agenda. These are simple matters of geography, as the term Sephardic simply means "of Spain" in Hebrew. Just as any other Polish Jew, Bulgarian Jew, Swiss Jew, etc. is described as such, the term Spanish should not be a bone of contention. This seems just an arbitrary limitation of geographical description. Surely, we could point to knee jerk reactions about Spain stemming from the "Black Legend," but surely from a Jewish perspective, stating further the country of the specific Jewish community at hand has nothing to do with the Black Legend, or any other wrong or prejudice. This matter doesn't have to have those overtones -- what about geography? Again, some articles go into the lineage of grandparents. McGill University and the National Science Foundation state that he was of Sephardic stock just as a normal statement of Jewishness, just as one might state the Vilna Gaon was a Belarussian-Ashkenazic Jew. Ashkenazic simply means "Northern" in an objective sense. These terms can also refer to "minhagim" or religious traditions, but they originated as geographic descriptions in organizing how people discussed the culture and practices of these two diverging groups. The terms were and are still used to describe geographic locations of communities within the diaspora, apart from religion. Judaism is not a religion. It is a peoplehood. These points have no basis in any other sense other than the physical location of his family's origins.
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Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 03:50, 5 August 2015 (UTC)