User talk:Sgatet

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July 2013[edit]

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Welcome to Wikipedia. At least one of your recent edits, such as the edit you made to Anil Ambani, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at the welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make some test edits, please use the sandbox for that. Thank you. NeilN ^{talk to me} 09:19, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Anil Ambani[edit]

This article is not about the Reliance group. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 09:21, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop your disruptive editing, as you did at Anil Ambani. Your edits have been reverted or removed.

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Do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively may result in your being blocked from editing. NeilN ^{talk to me} 09:29, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Sgatet. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Anil Ambani, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

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For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. NeilN ^{talk to me} 09:40, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

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Message added 09:44, 4 July 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

NeilN ^{talk to me} 09:44, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How do i use talkback...also someone seems to have blocked me...if u revert to the profile i posted i can make necessary changes to the policy....

Talkback[edit]

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Message added 10:19, 4 July 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

NeilN ^{talk to me} 10:19, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent editing history at Anil Ambani shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 10:19, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is your last warning; the next time you harm Wikipedia, as you did at Anil Ambani with this edit, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Persistent spammers may have their websites blacklisted, preventing anyone from linking to them from all Wikimedia sites as well as potentially being penalized by search engines. —MelbourneStar ☆^talk 10:27, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

READ THIS[edit]

Copied from Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide:

Be transparent about your conflict of interest.

Do not directly edit articles about yourself, your organization, your clients, or your competitors.

Post suggestions and sources on the article's talk page, or in your user space.

Your role is to summarize, inform, and reference, not promote, whitewash, or sell.

Subjects require significant coverage in independent reliable sources.

State facts and statistics; don't be vague or general.

Take time to get sources and policy right.

Get neutral, uninvolved, disinterested editors to review your suggestions.

Work with us and we'll work with you.

Communicate, communicate, communicate.

--NeilN ^{talk to me} 10:29, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your addition to Anil Ambani has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text, or images borrowed from other websites, or printed material without a verifiable license; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. This site is copyrighted. —MelbourneStar ☆^talk 10:40, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

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NeilN ^{talk to me} 10:44, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked temporarily from editing for abuse of editing privileges. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

Jeepday (talk) 10:50, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Jeepday: i assume you have blocked me for the day...no issue since i am new to this platform and seem to have violated some norms. however, if you let me know how can i address your concerns on the profile it would be helpful...regards

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Sgatet (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

new to the platform and no really clued in on the norms

Decline reason:

I see no clear understanding of what was wrong and/or how they will move forward. This is made even more difficult because the editor does not sign their talkpage posts as required using ~~~~. I'm afraid we'll see another block shortly unless mentoring comes into play (✉→BWilkins←✎) 11:10, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

First, please read User_talk:NeilN#Anil_Ambani. Second, the article is not a corporate "profile", it is a biography. Phrases like "one of India’s foremost business leaders" and "the legendary Dhirubhai H. Ambani" have no place in a biography. Third, it is obvious you have not spent any time reading the help links as your changes did not cite any reliable sources (and wiped out those that were already there) which is required. To reiterate what I said on my talk page, use Talk:Anil Ambani to discuss what you want changed and why. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 11:19, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ok.point taken on the mention of Reliance Group. can delete that...can also add a lot of articles and sources saying all what i have said on Anil Ambani. will that help? on the talk back part, still figuring out how to use it

Re your unblock request - so why did you undo, undo, undo and ignore all the warnings to stop by editors who are "clued in on the norms"? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 11:25, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Didnt know it was editors trying to warn....just got to know this setup from someone

You are blocked for 31 hours (or less if an admin decides to unblock early). I suggest you use this time to go through all the help links above. When you are unblocked, use the article's talk page to suggest any changes. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 11:32, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

will do...also, do u think its a better idea to do the changes one topic at a time. that way can modify it or address concerns step by step and move further..maybe start with a new pic to begin with and move to profile and then on?

Image[edit]

Also, how do i know who is the editor...and how do i use talk:anil ambani as you have suggested

Where did you get the picture from? It will probably be deleted as a copyright violation. Do not make any changes directly to the article. Click here: Talk:Anil Ambani, add a new section, and discuss what you want changed and why. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 11:48, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The picture was clicked by our photographer during the AGM...it belongs to us...

You need to fix the permissions issue as described here. Be aware that you are giving permission for anyone to use the photo for any purpose. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 12:08, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What should it ideally be

Did you go to the link? "Please provide evidence of permission by either providing a link to a site with an explicit grant of permission that complies with the licensing policy or by forwarding email communication granting permission to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org." Also, please start signing your posts by adding a --~~~~ to the end of them. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 12:28, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

sent the mail and sought Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported (CC BY-NC-ND 3.0) for the pic --Sgatet (talk) 13:02, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. While you're waiting have a look at Stanley Marcus and Billy Butlin. These are examples of good biographies of business people - neutrally written with plenty of sources. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:18, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Will do...pl let me know if you can think of any good profiles of living businessmen running conglomerates.....and thanks for all the help...wanted to add a champagne to the strawberry but will have to learn uploading pics with text...soon :-) --Sgatet (talk) 13:30, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have send two pictures of Anil Ambani - one his photo and the other with Mr Steven Spielberg for permissions. Have nnot got any revert...Those are original photos owned by Mr Ambani....how do i upload the same.....Sgatet (talk) 11:23, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

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—MelbourneStar ☆^talk 12:33, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

3RR policy[edit]

Your recent editing history at Anil Ambani shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

If you are in some way related to the subject of the article, you should not edit the article yourself, as you may have a conflict of interest. See WP:COI for our policy on editing article on subjects that you have a particular interest in. FurrySings (talk) 13:42, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I read the "conflict of Interest" in detail and undestand that the biography should be neutral and with information from lot of sources. But being an authorised representor of the person, i will be able to update authentic updates as the person being discussed here is also a celebrity and a lot of times untrue and false article also appear in public domain. What should i do to ensure correct and updated data and avoid conflict of interest..

Post only on the talk page and wait for other editors to implement edits that are judged to be in accordance with Wikipedia policy. Being an "authorised representor" of a subject does not give you special privileges on an article -- on the contrary, it leads others to suspect that your main goal is to promote this person. The way to avoid difficulties along these lines is to propose edits on the talk page and then let other editors implement those that are deemed acceptable. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 17:38, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ok. will do it that way (now i have to figure our how to use talk page)....my main idea is not to "promote" but maintain a healthy, accurate and balanced biograpgy that highlight the stature and achievements of Mr ambani who is a known public figure, clebrity and businessman in India and abroad......however, take your point that we can collaborate and do it step by step....will do...thanks for the help...

"that highlight the stature and achievements of Mr ambani" - that is promotion and it is not permitted. You must maintain a neutral point of view. --ukexpat (talk) 15:49, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]