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01:55:43, 29 July 2017 review of submission by Cristinaclcardoso
Hello Shadowowl! I understand only one of the articles can be submitted. However, the other article was already declined, so mine could still be accepted. And thank you for answering!
- @Cristinaclcardoso::Why not just insert the content you want onto the other page and have one stronger article? Klbrain (talk) 09:56, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
- @Klbrain::Yes, I thought of that, but the other article has been declined too! So I don't know if it would have worked. That's what I'm trying to say: there are two articles about the same thing and they've both been declined. I honestly wouldn't mind if the other one was the one posted because like you said, I could just insert content there as well but if they're both declined than what's the point, you know? But thanks for the tip!
- @Cristinaclcardoso:, Please improve the other draft, then resubmit. -- 13:13, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
Ok, I will! Could you tell me what should I improve on the other article, in order for it to be accepted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cristinaclcardoso (talk • contribs) 22:04, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
- @Cristinaclcardoso: You need to remove the youtube references. They are unreliable.-- 00:00, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
Ok, I will do that now! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cristinaclcardoso (talk • contribs) 00:59, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Atlantic slave trade to Brazil (August 6)
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Hello! Shadowowl,
I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! My name isnotdave (talk/contribs) 07:57, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Jism 3 (August 7)
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Submitting drafts
When marking a draft for submission, please make sure not to select the "yourself" option. Instead, select either the "most recent submitter" or the "page creator" option. This way, you will not receive decline messages like the one above by My name is not dave and the one I mistakenly added here, which I have removed in the following edit. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 02:35, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks! I will do that from now on.--Shadowowl on mobile (talk) 20:02, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
On-behalf-of submissions of old drafts
In this edit and this other edit, you submitted for AfC Draft:Antiquary's Books series and Draft:Aspen HYSYS, both drafts that had been dormant for at least 6 months, making them potential material for CSD G13. In the first case, I didn't fix the u= parameter in time, but I caught it in the second. (Legacypac, by the way, manages to do these submissions without imprinting them with their own username, I'm not sure how that works.)
In looking at some of the oldest entries in the AfC backlog, I've seen several drafts that had also been unedited by their initial creator for more than 6 months and were submitted by AfC editors.
Can I ask what's going on? I'm very new to AfC, but this pattern I've described seems to pointlessly add to the AfC backlog and waste reviewer time. Since the articles are in no fit condition to be accepted and now, as I understand it, are not eligible for G13 for another 6 months, they just get declined and go back to Draft: space with nothing having been accomplished (except perhaps to wake up the original contributor). Is this part of some master plan that I'm just too inexperienced to see? — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 05:21, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
14:04:19, 10 August 2017 review of submission by Rekabodzan
- Rekabodzan (talk · contribs)
Dear Shadowowl,
I see that you reviewed our article submission and declined it on 13 July. It was declined for the 3rd time, so I thought we might need a little help. Could you please give a piece of advice what should we do exactly to get it accepted? As far as I can see, the main problem was with the style and the references. As for the references, the festival is only in its 3rd year, therefore the amount of publications in the international media is limited. However, we have well-renowned and credible sources e.g. Wired, The Next Web or Big Think.
As for the style, could you higlight a few parts that seem like advertisement and make suggestions how to rewrite them?
Thanks in advance.
Rekabodzan (talk) 14:04, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
Draft:Apple Schools Project decline
Unformatted references is not a good or valid reason to decline a submission. This can be cleaned up when the article reaches mainspace. There are plenty of WP:GNOMEs who relish doing this. It is best to get authors focused on the most serious issues first. In this case, lack of WP:INDEPENDENT sources to demonstrate notability. ~Kvng (talk) 16:00, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- Kvng, for what it's worth, I had this discussion with Shadowowl around the time that it happened. I haven't seen any declines like this since early July, so I think the issue has been solved. Thanks for the note, though. Primefac (talk) 16:08, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Primefac: thanks and good to know. Where was the discussion? ~Kvng (talk) 16:12, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- Kvng, it was on 15 July. Primefac (talk) 16:19, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- Ah, aggressive archiving. ~Kvng (talk) 16:24, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- Kvng, it was on 15 July. Primefac (talk) 16:19, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Primefac: thanks and good to know. Where was the discussion? ~Kvng (talk) 16:12, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
Earthbound draft article
The deletion is not contested, as there is simply no sign of the cult classic being made into a movie. EF 20:12, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
- As I can see in my CSD log, you made that page. Can you clarify your message, because to me it sounds like My article is super, but it is deleted and then i am going to say that it's shit -- 07:23, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi Shadowowl,
I note that on 06:04, July 15, DGG (talk · contribs) moved Draft:Zbyszek Darzynkiewicz to the mainspace article Zbyszek Darzynkiewicz.
Perhaps this should also be discussed with that user?
Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 09:44, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
- He unambiguously passes WP:PROF. 3 articles cited over 1000 times in G Scholar; 82 cited over 100. (7 of them in PNAS--most in other excellent journals) To be sure, a good number are review articles or methods articles, both of which get very heavily cited, but about half of the 82 are research. The usual level for notability in his field is at least one article cited 100 times, but some people think 2 articles.
The article is of fairly low quality and needs improvement, but it can be improved in mainspace. The standard for moving to mainspace is that it will pass AfD. DGG ( talk ) 18:32, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: William Morton (Theatre Manager) has been accepted
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Sulfurboy (talk) 00:38, 27 August 2017 (UTC)04:40:41, 29 August 2017 review of submission by 223.186.51.58
Dear Shadowowl,
Please let me know the reasons for rejection of the wikipedia page creation.
There are 2 points 1. Reference Improvement: Like to know which reference I need to improve for the article. 2. AFCH 0.9 : Like to know what I need to improve here.
Regards
praveensms — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.186.51.58 (talk) 05:09, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
19:31:55, 30 August 2017 review of submission by Cditerlizzi
- Cditerlizzi (talk · contribs)
Hello,
The reason why I am requesting a re-review is because I was told that there wasnt enough references throughout this article. I am confused on what else needs to be added in regards to references. The published publications and books are referenced and listed at the bottom of the document and are cited throughout the article. Please advise?
Thanks so much,
Christina
- Please see WP:REFSTART on how to format your sources, so that they are visible to the reviewer. -- 06:41, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
15:36:05, 31 August 2017 review of submission by Danielle2017!
Hi there,
The first three links in the reference section are from subsections of the UK official music chart, which is cited by Wikipedia as number 2 on the Album notability section: The single or album has appeared on any country's national music chart.
On the Record Chart section of Typical sources for record charts and archives, by country, the OOC is listed as an acceptable source. I don't understand why links from subsections of this Chart/website have been deemed to not be an 'acceptable source'
This is the link from the UK chart that is acceptable, according to the Wiki article: http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart/
This is the second link that I've cited: http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/independent-albums-chart/20170714/131/
It's the same website.
Please can you explain your reasoning on this, as I'm really struggling to understand it.
Many thanks for your help.
Danielle2017! (talk) 15:36, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
02:01:50, 7 September 2017 review of submission by Jalindenauer
- Jalindenauer (talk · contribs)
Added some inline citations to the article that was rejected. Please let me know if you feel this is sufficient before I resubmit.
- The article is still a mess, with only 2 references. -- 05:24, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
Request on 18:48:46, 6 September 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Brandfog
Thank you for reviewing the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Harold_L._Paz,_M.D.,_M.S. Could you please help us figure out the issue with the sources? Didn't realize that Wikipedia wouldn't be allowed. Were there any other issues we need to fix? This is a very senior C-Suite executive at a Fortune 50 company and we provided 31 references for his biography, including respected industry journals, Washington Post, etc. thank you for any and all help!
Brandfog (talk) 18:48, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
- You should remove the youtube references. They are not reliable too. -- 05:25, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
14:08:04, 7 September 2017 review of submission by Danielle2017!
Hi there!
Please could you let me know which bits need sources and I will amend or remove. Many thanks.
Danielle2017! (talk) 14:08, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
AfC
On July 11 you declined DraftResearchfish giving the reason that "The external links should be put at the end of the article, not in the middle.". There are several good reasons why that article is not ready for mainspace, but that is not one of them. It's the sort of thing that is trivial to fix in the course of normal editing.
On Sept Sept 6 you declined a draft for BBSShowbizfor not having inline citations. You used a similar reason for Draft:Cane Handle Camera. That rule applies only to BLPs.
I think you missed the problem at aft:Jack M. Kartush
Draft:Haildhar Madrasah seems an acceptable article on a secondary school. The tone is not perfect, but its good enogu handshould passAfD, which is the criterion for accepting an article.
DGG ( talk ) 03:33, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
- Seriously DGG? Complaining about an decline from 2 months ago? It was declined for pov after that. About the ILC ones, I sometimes fix them, but when there are quite some sources i mostly decline because I don't know in what section they belong. For the 3th problem, is a decline for promo worth more than a decline for sources? It is a biography, and the rule at biography pages is that everything controversial needs to be sourced. The last one i reviewed too strict. So, about your complaiment, only 2 of the 4 are really my mistake, and 1 of them is so old that i already recieved messages that i should'nt decline for external links. -- 14:53, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi there, you rightly wrote that the draft lacked reliable external sources. I had already pointed out on the draft's talk page that there already is an article on the university under its former name. Should I have written that elsewhere? I created two drafts myself, Draft:Guayaquil International Film Festival, and Draft:Philippe Fix. Could you please give me some advise on them? Crotopaxi (talk) 08:02, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
Request on 15:28:10, 3 October 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Selfmagnet
- Selfmagnet (talk · contribs)
The references I have cited are a journal from Purdue University and a book by the author. They are available for checking the authenticity of the quotes I cited. I have read the rules many times, and am at a loss as to how to satisfy the reviewer. I would love to see what changes I can make to get the submission accepted.
Selfmagnet (talk) 15:28, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
Request on 16:51:28, 30 September 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Hta94
Hello, Would you help me to understand why you rejected my input into this Draft? I read your input on that, but I need to understand better. What is the encyclopedic format this Draft did not follow? Why is the problem with "range of independent, reliable, published sources"? I took those sources from the Internet, so they were officially published.
Would you help me with this editing, or just underline the selected text on which I can work again to expend or delete the text. The article is not big, so it will not take much of your time to help on it. Thanks in advance,Hta94 (talk) 16:51, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
Hta94 (talk) 16:51, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello, Would you check again. I made some corrections in the article, and would like to know your opinion. Is it enough to submit again, or I need to do something else? Waiting for your response. Thanks.Hta94 (talk) 20:49, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
- Sentences like Natalia Toreeva is continuing using those principles and ideas of the 1920s-1930s movement are good for a museum folder, but need to rewritten to something like Natalia Toreeva continued the principles and ideas of the 1920-1930s movement. -- 08:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello, Would you check again. I did the fixed, you suggested, and did some restructuring of the Article, so it would be easier to follow the text and References. Thanks for your input! Hta94 (talk) 18:30, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
- Reference number 33 leads to a blog, which is unreliable. Regards, 08:24, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I deleted a "blog" in the reference number, and substituted by another path. Would you check again if it is OK now, and I can submit this Draft? Thanks.Hta94 (talk) 18:57, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
Would you confirm, if it is OK now and I can submit the Draft for review? Thanks.Hta94 (talk) 15:36, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Potentilla sterneri has been accepted
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RileyBugz会話投稿記録 19:56, 11 October 2017 (UTC)Request on 16:26:53, 8 October 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Selfmagnet
- Selfmagnet (talk · contribs)
Thank you for pointing out that I need to get more citations. I have contacted many libraries and publishers for more info on Alfred Still to no avail. I was hoping that his dozen books on engineering subjects, and his autobiography would suffice to get him the recognition on Wikipedia. I am sorry it wasn't enough.
Selfmagnet (talk) 16:26, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Selfmagnet: The article needs to be split in sections , like
==Career==
in wikitext. --
12:45:16, 12 October 2017 review of submission by Mlwmiller
Thank you for pointing out that some of the links in the Ellen Susman article are not able to verify the statement that they footnote. I will edit these.
The YouTube links are videos of the subject interviewing guests (Rosanne Cash, Chris Evert, etc) on the public television show that she hosted. They are not meant to prove that the show existed but as a reference for Wiki readers who may be interested in the content of the interviews. Should these be listed as external links?
Thanks in advance for your help.
- Yes, they should be listed as external links. -- » Shadowowl | talk 13:40, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: List of places on Öland has been accepted
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joe deckertalk 16:07, 12 October 2017 (UTC)Your signature (again)
Please shorten your signature to the limit of 255 characters as specified at WP:SIGLENGTH. Right now it sits at 676 characters long, which is particularly disruptive to editing. Additionally, please remove the {{!}}
from your signtature per WP:SIG#CustomSig. If you wish to include the pipe (|
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. Lastly, the color does not adhere to WCAG AA standards per WP:SIGAPP: see here and here. This is your current signature:
<span class="nounderlinelink plainlinks" style="font-weight:bold;color:#aaa;font-variant:small-caps;font-size:8pt"> <span class="sigexpand"> » <span class="sighidden" style="white-space:nowrap"> [[Owl|<span style="color:#7aa">Shadowowl</span>]] [[User:shadowowl|<span style="color:#777">Marcos Rodriguez</span>]] {{!}} [[User_talk:Shadowowl|<span style="color:#8bb">t</span>]] {{!}} [[wp:SPI|<span style="color:#aqua">SPI</span>]] {{!}} [[wp:AIV|<span style="color:#aqua">AIV</span>]] {{!}} [[wp:SAND|<span style="color:#aqua">Sandbox</span>]] {{!}} [[wp:HELPDESK|<span style="color:#aqua">Helpdesk</span>]] <span style="color:#ddd">»</span></span></span> </span>
This has been brought to your attention before, so please correct your signature to adhere to the guidelines. To be honest, the SPI, AIV, sandbox, and helpdesk links should probably be removed as well. Thanks! Nihlus 17:41, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
- I have removed the useless links. Regards, --
<span style="font-weight:bold;color:#aaa;font-variant:small-caps;font-size:10pt"> » [[User:shadowowl|<span style="color:#525252">Shadowowl</span>]] | [[User_talk:Shadowowl|<span style="color:#4F7D7D">talk</span>]]</span>
- Which looks like this: » Shadowowl | talk. Thanks. Nihlus 14:05, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
Signature
I hate to bring this up again, but your signature is still in violation of policy after being told to correct it multiple times. Do you plan on fixing it? Nihlus 20:01, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
- Shadowowl - Hey, I just want you to know that if you need help with your signature, please let me know and I'll be glad to do so. I'll be happy to look at your code and make it shorter. Give me a shout -- ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:58, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Nihlus: I have implemented the code you suggested. Thanks for helping. -- » Shadowowl | talk 08:44, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you. Nihlus 18:35, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
How is that a hoax? --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:05, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
- Ah, wait; did you mean to tag that as WP:CSD#G13, and there was a typo that made it G3 instead? That would make sense. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:07, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
- Gah, nevermind, my mistake, I was looking at the wrong page. Too many tabs open. It *was* clearly vandalism (G3) after all (although G13 also applied). If I was clever I'd just delete this section and maybe no one would notice I'm an idiot. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:11, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Floquenbeam: No problem, everyone makes mistakes. I could not choose G3 and G13, so I chose G3, because that was the point, it was clearly nonsense, or something that 1 or 2 person(s) made up. -- » Shadowowl | talk 09:23, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
- As a small point of note, you *can* tag a page with Twinkle for multiple reasons. If you're doing it manually, {{db-multiple}} is the best way to go. The more you knowTM! Primefac (talk) 12:00, 14 October 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)
- @Floquenbeam: No problem, everyone makes mistakes. I could not choose G3 and G13, so I chose G3, because that was the point, it was clearly nonsense, or something that 1 or 2 person(s) made up. -- » Shadowowl | talk 09:23, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
- Gah, nevermind, my mistake, I was looking at the wrong page. Too many tabs open. It *was* clearly vandalism (G3) after all (although G13 also applied). If I was clever I'd just delete this section and maybe no one would notice I'm an idiot. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:11, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Eagle-Rock Trophy Game (October 14)
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draft on Yves Weinand
Dear Shadowowl, at the time you have moved my article in creation from the sandbox to drafts. It has been refused until now twice. And to be honest: I am bit despeared because I did introduce a lot of changes that should fulfill all the criteria. Could you please advise me? Thanks a lot! G. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgweinand (talk • contribs) 10:28, 23 October 2017 (UTC) @user:Georgweinand, There are only 3 references, while 1 of them is from himself, so non-reliable. Another one is a website, and it is not clear which page in that website. Regards, -- » Shadowowl | talk 12:15, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
12:45:11, 24 October 2017 review of submission by Beranovaiveta
Hi, can you please explain why this is not notable when it appeared in eg. major Czech tech media? Thanks
- @Beranovaiveta: Wikipedia is not a source. ThemeMags offers paid reviews, so that one is not reliable. The same is for Tips2secure. Crunchbase is just a mention. The Czech article is the only reliable source. -- » Shadowowl | talk 14:22, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
Request on 14:41:24, 24 October 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by Beranovaiveta
@Shadowowl Thanks for your reply.
Beranovaiveta (talk) 14:41, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
- No problem. -- » Shadowowl | talk 14:51, 24 October 2017 (UTC)