User talk:Skier Dude/archive/archive May 11

Talk:Pachyrhizus ahipa

Hello Dear Skier Dude I contributed to the discussion on the lost crop Pachyrhizus Ahipa, and to my great surprise you deleted it, May you have the politness to explain to me the reasons for this? Thanks Bonvinc (talk) 15:56, 17 April 2011 (UTC)Bonvinc

You have created a talk page, and not an article. If you wish to create the article, you need to leave the "Talk" off and create an article in the article space. If you need assistance with this see Wikipedia:Articles for creation or leave a message here. Skier Dude (talk) 20:42, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Re:Orphaned non-free image File:Comeswithfallalbum.jpg

Initially I had included this photo with the Comes with the Fall (album) article but then it saw that the cover had a lot of white space around. I would crop the cover to get rid of the white space and upload it again but unfortunately I'm ill-equipped to do that. I'll try to see if I can find another image to upload but in the meantime feel free to delete this one. Shaneymike (talk) 12:13, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

inre this notice

The image was not orphaned when uploaded. However, it seems there was a minor edit skirmish[1] (of which I was not informed) over its inclusion in the article Wine (1924 film) as another editor seemed unaware then that A) Universal Pictures had several dozen different theatrical posters issued for the various screenings of this film, and B) graphic artists would often create a poster based upon a description or request from production BEFORE release and not from having seen the film themselves or knowing the hairstyle of women in the film. And so his "reason" for removing the image... "the hairstyle of the girls kissed suggests the poster is unauthentic - all the girls cast in Wine were 'bobbed' - Prod. stills leaves no room for doubts.)"... reflects an unsourced POV and OR rather than actual research. We at Wikipedia are not to substitute unsubstantiated personal opinion for sourced information, and if ever in doubt on issues of copyright should err on the side of extreme caution. Indeed, his own finding of yet a third poster for this film supports my own contention of several different posters existing, and his own earlier comment "Poster of questional origin replaced with contemporary advertismant", means only that "he" questioned the origin and did not do the research as had I. That complaint aside, it is fine by me that the image be deleted, BUT only as long as the claim of public domain used in his own uploaded image[2] be confirmed. I believe he is on shaky ground to presume without ofering supportive evidence that Universal Pictures had not renewed the copyright to an image of a film they own, and my own assumption that they likely had done so is the far safer route legally. If his contention that his uploaded image is public domian proves false, then it should be replaced by the image I originally uploaded. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 09:32, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Re: Babacar promo.jpg

Initially I had uploaded the picture on to this page: Babacar (band). But another user removed saying it does not have a Non-free use rationale. I uploaded a whole bunch of pics recently using what I presumed is the same rationale for this photo File:My Sister's Machine.jpg. I'll post them all so you can look at them and see if perhaps I might be doing something wrong. Here they are:

• File:Comeswiththefallpromo.jpg
  • Can be challenged because the group is still active and it therefore can theoretically be replaced with a free image.
• File:Presence promo.jpg
• File:Mistrust promo.jpg
• File:Soulbenderpromo2.jpg
  • Can be challenged because the group is still active and it therefore can theoretically be replaced with a free image.
• File:Babacar promo.jpg
• File:Second coming promo.jpg

Shaneymike (talk) 15:07, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I noted problems with just two of the images, that have already been tagged for the same reasons. THe others look OK with the FuR's as is. Skier Dude (talk) 05:54, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Can the Babacar promo be put back here? Shaneymike (talk) 12:00, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

As the band no longer exists & it's not likely to get a non-free image, with the FuR provided, it'll probably stand OK as is. Skier Dude2 (talk) 04:10, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Re: Orphaned Image File:Great mountain biking video box cover.jpg

Hi Skier Dude, I added the photo to the site where it belongs (it's an article now being written) but it was removed. Because the photo is of a box cover that my husband and I created when we produced the video, how would I render it an acceptable file? Thanks for your advice and interest. Patty Mooney (talk) 20:41, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Re: Orphaned Image File:Top_Gear_GTi_Logo_2001.png

Hello. I have decided to keep the file File:Top_Gear_GTi_Logo_2001.png as the image was a screenshot, taken solely by myself and edited with Microsoft Paint, therefore transforming the original to an acceptable standard. Thank you for contacting me. I will now erase the deletion message attached to the file. Chrizman (talk) 22:02, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Coins of the Dutch guilder

Hello!. Make the Perfect article please: Coins of the Dutch guilder.I am speak at English not good. Numizmat 675 (talk) 13:08, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

RE: Orphaned non-free image File:The-Lost-Symbol-2.jpg

Sorry, I didn't realise it had been removed from the article. I don't intend to re-add it, so feel free to delete it... - HIGHFIELDS (TALK • CONTRIBUTIONS) 11:10, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

deleteing my pages

Hi there, I did not see any notification about these deletes. Also I posted my mail on my page and asked to be informed about deletes. these are my user pages, please undelete the ones i mentioned. thanks 20:33, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

thank uNassim Abi Chahine 21:23, 25 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naseem abi shaheen (talk • contribs)

You need to be much more specific as you have multiple deleted images - and, before you ask again, you will need to get source & copyright details for the images before they are restored. Skier Dude (talk) 01:18, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

File:Hopper_Rider.jpg

I know you used good faith and believed what the uploader said on the ffd discussion, but if you look at the article, there's no real sourced discussion about the actor look or clothing (what would require an image). That uploader has an impaired understanding of how we use non-free content here, what can be attested by his comments on ffd discussions. --Damiens.rf 02:17, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

File:Liveunderground2002.jpg

I just uploaded this picture and thought I would show it to you to make sure there aren't any issues. Here's the article that it goes with. Shaneymike (talk) 20:37, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Dubai3D waterfront.jpg

Thank you for kindly pointing out that this image is in the wrong usage category. I cannot figure out how to get to this file and change it's category. Can you please tell me? and to what should I change it? Sorry that I am not experienced in this.MaxWyss (talk) 15:28, 28 April 2011 (UTC)MaxWyss

Countess of Shannon.jpg Delete

Thank your for taking the time to explain your deletion of the photo. The article had a name change and then was incubated so I couldn't delete it or use it until I had gotten the copyright info squared away so I appreciate your time and the notice. Have a great day. Theonelife (talk) 21:53, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

The Lennon vandal is back

as user 69.231.218.20. Hotcop2 (talk) 22:02, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

"Show and Display"

I think that where an editor has thought something the right title to create an article, and it's not a typo etc, we should leave the redirect: it's not implausible, and does no harm. I've re-created the redirect you deleted. PamD (talk) 07:42, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

User:Axlechris

Would you be willing to provide a bit more background on the block of User:Axlechris? The contribution history from this editor, except for the rapid-fire editing style, seemed more typical of a very new editor with little familiarity on the criteria for inclusion than a vandal or compromised account. Many thanks! VQuakr (talk) 07:54, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

It appeared to be, as you noted, this gave all the indications of a compromised account, especially given the rapid-fire targeted vandalism - could also have been someone that was experimenting with a bot (unlikely?) given the repetitive nature. I'd be willing to unblock, but if the account was compromised, given the contrib history, it would be preferable to start a new account. Skier Dude (talk) 03:56, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

I think the compromised account suggestion was another editor; I added an unsigned tag to Axlechris's talk page to make it more clear. The rapid series of edits was unusual, but averaged much less than one per minute so likely not a bot. The account also appears to be brand new, with all edits being to a single, equally new page (so, no editing history to mark a sudden change in editing patterns that would indicate a compromised account). I also do not see any vandalism edits, just not-very-competent ones on an article that might not meet the GNG, which is understandable for a new account. They even stopped removing maintenance tags after two warnings. I feel a little silly following up on this one since the editor's rapid fire style and focus on a single article could be a headache if they return, but I just do not see that they did anything blockable. VQuakr (talk) 04:22, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

I've watched the page and if there's any movement on this, like I said, would be willing to consider the unblock request. Skier Dude (talk) 04:28, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

question

Hi I have a question. I'd like to upload this picture of a 1960s comic. http://i54.tinypic.com/25q7had.jpg Problem is I'm not sure how to tag it (what templates to use). The comic was published by a long defunct comic company called Editorial Orizaba back in the 1960s. I don't believe it was even authorized. At the time King Kong was copyrighted by both RKO and Merian C Cooper. I'm sure RKO and Cooper were unaware that this comic series was making the rounds in the Mexican market. Just like RKO was unaware that King Kong Appears in Edo was playing in Japanese movie theaters back in 1938. (The comic was never sold outside of Mexico). With it being unauthorized and with the company being loong out of business, I'm assuming its OK to upload it. How would I tag it/template it though?Giantdevilfish (talk) 16:04, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Hmmmm-Given the info, I'd say that if these were the US versions, {{PD-Pre1978}} would be the more appropriate. If you get an exact date, possibly {{PD-Pre1964}}, but with the words "aparece los ???coles (appearing (or starring) the ???) it could be the Mexican version, so {{PD-URAA}} would probably be the more accurate. Either way, 'belt and suspenders', I'd make a note akin to the one above on the image description page to assuage any concerns! :) Skier Dude (talk) 04:13, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi. The comic is from October 1967. It doesn't even have an artist name listed!!? I'm still not sure what to put though. Do you think if I upload the pic you could tag it from me with the neccessary tags or templates? You helped me out in the past before with this file http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kingkongvsgodzilla-656x1024.jpg You're more skilled with this sort of thing then I am.Giantdevilfish (talk) 12:56, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Great thanks for your help!:-) It was for the King Kong (comics) page so I made the necessary change. Thanks again!Giantdevilfish (talk) 19:58, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Image file sizes

Hi, you just tagged a bunch of image files I uploaded as needing to be reduced in size, but I can't find a guideline on how much they should be reduced. Could you point me in the right direction? Acidtoyman (talk) 02:52, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

THe basic is at Wikipedia:Image use policy#Size - another description is at Category:Rescaled fairuse images more than 7 days old (middle of page) & another resource is Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria Skier Dude (talk) 03:03, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll get around to resizing them (looks like they should have dimensions less than 400). Acidtoyman (talk) 03:33, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

If there's a bot that will do the resizing, then I think I'll leave it up to the bot, so I don't screw it up. Acidtoyman (talk) 05:54, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Class War

Hi, Thanks for your message about the Class War image I uploaded. I wasn't entirely sure which licence to attach to this image, the image it's self is mine. I took it and it is of my collection of Class War magazines. You can, in the image, see the Class War logo and bits of cover art. I know that the logo is not copyrighted, due to it being an anarchist journal, so there shouldn't be an issue with using it here. Maybe I have a attached the wrong licence. Could you tell me what you think I should use instead? Thank you Chaosandvoid (talk) 11:32, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

As there isn't a specific public domain template that covers this (especially for the UK) the best/safe bet is to use {{Non-free newspaper image}}, like you've done. It needs a fair use, my suggestion (you'll need to verify and correct before putting on the image description page):

{{Non-free use rationale | Description = | Source = For photo - taken by self; for publication, [http://classwar-uk.blogspot.com/ magazine publisher] | Article = Class War | Portion = partial covers from several images | Low_resolution = Yes | Purpose = visual identification of the publication | Replaceability = only by image(s) of the same publication | other_information = additional/historical information can be found at [http://libcom.org/tags/class-war this site] as well as the source }} Let me know if this is correct & I'll pop it in the right place. THanks. Skier Dude (talk) 05:00, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

That all sounds about right! I do have a higher-res version that is located on the same image file page as the low-res version which could be used instead but I was having trouble embedding it into the Class War page. Thanks for you help, I really appreciate it! Chaosandvoid (talk) 10:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Uploading artwork

Hi. I'm curious about the proper way to upload an artwork but don't know which upload form to use. I also couldn't find a help page anywhere so I'm stumped. Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Red marquis (talk) 13:04, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

If you give me a link to the image and the article that you're thinking of using it on, I can give you some specific information. Skier Dude (talk) 05:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Here's the picture's link. I intend to use the first picture for the The Golden Age of Grotesque (a rock album) article. It is important to the background and development info of the article because it shows the collaboration between the artist and the musician. Not to mention, the image was originally intended as the album cover but scrapped at the last minute. It was used, instead, to accompany an essay related to the album that was submitted by the musician to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I have reliable sources to back up the info. Ummm...moment of honesty, I already uploaded the image but I'm pretty sure I got something wrong and I want to do it right. Also, how do you reduce the resolution enough to be acceptable for use here? I have Photoshop but I don't know how to do it. Thanks. -05:20, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Ps. I'm not sure if it's a painting or a photograph. The artist in question, Gottfried Helnwein, is known for his photorealistic paintings and he is really good at it. -Red marquis (talk) 05:24, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

It's a photograph, and it's File:Marilyn Manson by Gottfried Helnwein Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum.jpg The image size is great- no need to worry about that at all :) The fair use looks OK, however, the only point of contention that I could see being raised is that the image isn't discussed in the article - it's only discussed in the caption. To "fix" that, it'd best to include some discussion on the choice of the image for the album cover in the body of the article and not just in the caption. Other than that, it looks like it's OK so far. Skier Dude (talk) 05:34, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh no worries about that. I'll include the info on the body at some point. I just happen to be bogged down copyediting another article at the moment. -Red marquis (talk) 20:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Uploading artwork

Hi. I'm curious about the proper way to upload an artwork but don't know which upload form to use. I also couldn't find a help page anywhere so I'm stumped. Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Red marquis (talk) 13:04, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

If you give me a link to the image and the article that you're thinking of using it on, I can give you some specific information. Skier Dude (talk) 05:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Here's the picture's link. I intend to use the first picture for the The Golden Age of Grotesque (a rock album) article. It is important to the background and development info of the article because it shows the collaboration between the artist and the musician. Not to mention, the image was originally intended as the album cover but scrapped at the last minute. It was used, instead, to accompany an essay related to the album that was submitted by the musician to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I have reliable sources to back up the info. Ummm...moment of honesty, I already uploaded the image but I'm pretty sure I got something wrong and I want to do it right. Also, how do you reduce the resolution enough to be acceptable for use here? I have Photoshop but I don't know how to do it. Thanks. -05:20, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Ps. I'm not sure if it's a painting or a photograph. The artist in question, Gottfried Helnwein, is known for his photorealistic paintings and he is really good at it. -Red marquis (talk) 05:24, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

It's a photograph, and it's File:Marilyn Manson by Gottfried Helnwein Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum.jpg The image size is great- no need to worry about that at all :) The fair use looks OK, however, the only point of contention that I could see being raised is that the image isn't discussed in the article - it's only discussed in the caption. To "fix" that, it'd best to include some discussion on the choice of the image for the album cover in the body of the article and not just in the caption. Other than that, it looks like it's OK so far. Skier Dude (talk) 05:34, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh no worries about that. I'll include the info on the body at some point. I just happen to be bogged down copyediting another article at the moment. -Red marquis (talk) 20:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Images

There was a time Skier when you were approachable and friendly. How sad to see you've become one of the deletionists. Before you bring on an onslaught can you have the decency to actually inform me what exactly is needed to keep File:Diana wedding dress1.jpg. I added why it is being used in the permission. What exactly do you want? And please don't delete such images. There is no free alternative and fair use applies and an image is really needed to identify it. Now please speak to me as a human not some bot drill. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:06, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Removed Image Daniel Straus

Why did you remove the image from Daniel Straus?

I am not familiar with adding pictures but am wondering why you took it off since there is no copyright on it.

It is from Daniel Straus' facebook.

Message me back. Thanks. Falcons8455 (talk) 04:58, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

The image File:DStraus.png was uploaded without a linkable source & the actual copyright status of the image. Please look at WP:COPYOTHERS, or the first section of Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright, the complete list of copyright templates can be found at Wikipedia:File copyright tags/All. Please don't guess, as the copyright status must be verifiable (and no, not every image at facebook is "free"). Skier Dude (talk) 00:10, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Would I be able to message Daniel Straus on facebook and ask him if I could use the picture? Because I've messaged him before and he answers them. Falcons8455 (talk) 00:34, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Only if he is the owner of the photo (it might be his publicist or another party) - and you'd be best to go through the WP:OTRS system, as that would stop any future questions arising about the image. Just follow the link at WP:OTRS and have THEM - not you - send the appropriate e-mail. Skier Dude (talk) 00:41, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

New expert user needs help

Hi, you recently posted a notice to user talk:MaxWyss here and he is needing clarification. Could you visit with him and explain the relevant Wiki-image policy in more user friendly language. We need to encourage subject matter experts and personally I don't feel I understand the image policies well enough to explain. Thanks, Vsmith (talk) 14:03, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Restored an image

Hi, you deleted File:Jennifer Rohn May2010.jpg. I've spoken to Richard P Grant who took the photo - he is the uploader so is allowed to license it under that CC license, so I've restored it. Fences&Windows 19:25, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Magalir Mattum

You cited "Non notable Tamil film" as the reason for deleting this article. Can you explain why you thought it was non-notable? It surely seems a notable film to me. It did well commercially. There are wikipedia pages for films that were not as successful. The story, editing and the comedy track are good. It deserves mention for being one of the few mainstream movies in Tamil that focus on women's empowerment. Also, [Hello Darling] is a Hindi remake of Magalir Mattum, why would a non-notable film be re-made? I assume good intentions on your part. I don't see a way to restore a deleted article on Wikipedia, and it seems such a shame. rt (talk) 03:06, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm - this was deleted as an expired prod 14 November 2008 - it was an infobox with one line of text, no references - nada. Re-created 4 May 2011 as a legit stub and since then has been improved upon after that, so I'm guessing there needs to be no action here - as restoring the old version would be counterproductive at this point! And also, watch out about using the Wikipedia:Other stuff exists argument. Skier Dude (talk) 19:09, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. I had assumed the original article was longer, and that is why I had left the earlier message. And thanks for pointing me to the Other Stuff Exists page, it was informative as well. rt (talk) 15:10, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Help page on JJ Horner

The picture was taken by me... It took me forever to figure out how to upload it. I followed the instructions step by step on how to put a license on there, and I did. Now I don't know how to get that image back up again and if I do you guys will just probably take it down again. It's an awesome picture, I TOOK IT, I PUT A LICENSE ON IT..... what else do I need to do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by K69 (talk • contribs) 06:03, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

The image didn't have a valid copyright tag (you used {{own}}) If you'd take a look at {{pd-self}}, that may be what you're looking for. If not, there's a list of all the copyright templates at Wikipedia:File copyright tags/All, and the "free ones" are in this section - look at the creative common ones. Just let me know which one is correct and I'll restore the image with the correct tag. Skier Dude (talk) 05:28, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Image question

Regarding this, the old version was in compliance but still needs to be deleted as it is non-free and not used. It didn't meet the size requirements of Template:Infobox album#Cover, which is what it was used for, so I uploaded a new version that did. The old version is now unused and need to be deleted. I don't know of a template to request deletions of old versions, other than {{non-free reduced}}. I've been correcting numerous album cover images in this manner of late & haven't run into a problem until now. --IllaZilla (talk) 06:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Never mind, it's been taken care of. --IllaZilla (talk) 15:53, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

BrendaHowardEarly90s.jpg

Hello, I have noticed today that someone seems to have inappropriately removed a photo (the above). I'm going to attempt to restore it and failing that will upload a new copy. CyntWorkStuff (talk)

Hi dude! :)

Hello! Can you help me regarding this? Most of these pages are just very, very pointless, awful violation of WP:WEBHOST, entire lists of data alredy presented on wiki, etc, etc... Can you help me in nominating this, good as you alredy once did? --WhiteWriter ^speaks 12:02, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Please stop the wikihounding, what is the endless hounding of whitewater and why is it tolerated?

James Michael DuPont (talk) 14:00, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

I have reported this message, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WhiteWriter#Admin_Notice and I hope mr white write will stop wiki hounding me some day, it is really tiresome, he is really affecting my enjoyment of wikipedia editing in a negative way. James Michael DuPont (talk) 14:24, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Infinity protection

Hi Skier Dude, sorry for disturbing you again, but I must to require this. It is "again" about Happy Feet 2 article, can you please protected it "again" from anonymous editors, but this time for infinity, because if you do like the first time (to be protected only two month), this will continue again, so please if you don't believe go and see it by yourself. Thank you.  InfamousPrince  20:26, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Webcrash Baxter.JPG

File:Webcrash Baxter.JPG is currently orphaned because the article has been deleted so I nominated it for deletion. ww2censor (talk) 16:36, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

No more Class War

Hi... Hope you are well..

Just had a look and the Class War image seems o have been deleted after all.. any thoughts to why this happened? Cheers

Chaosandvoid (talk) 14:04, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

It appears that the actual source wasn't supplied and there was no WP:Fair use rationale given for the image; both of these are requried... if I remember correctly it was a montage of multiple covers, so the picture would be yours, but the source for the images would need to be traced back to Class War publication. If you can supply both of these, the image can be restored. Skier Dude (talk) 19:29, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Delete Trolli Logo.jpg

Please DELETE ' File:Trolli Logo.jpg ' as it was not posted in the correct format.

When I uploaded it, the colors we're much whiter than normal, so I changed the file format and reposted it successfully as you can see in:

Trolli

Thank you.

Best regards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gregorymed (talk • contribs) 07:24, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

File:Tomio Aoki.jpg

Could you take another look at the deletion of File:Tomio Aoki.jpg? I'm not convinced you read the outcome of the discussion properly. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:42, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

aside from the rather pointy remarks of the uploader, the basic fact that it wasn't shown that the image was pd and the "easily-located source" wasn't provided. This isn't a "new" or "constantly changed" policy (which seems to be an issue of the uploader [3]), if you think it's ok without the source, the you could restore it. Skier Dude (talk) 03:24, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, considering it's a Japanese actor who was born in 1923, the PD-Japan-oldphoto template says "taken before 1946", and he's clearly under 23 in that photo, I think it's safe enough to omit the source in this case. I can see how other people would disagree, though, so I won't override you. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:25, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

hi...there

I just saw your notification about logo deletion, it will be great if you dont post any notification on my talk page, I know your not doing intentionally, but still please try not to post any notification on my page. :) KuwarOnline ^Talk 05:18, 26 May 2011 (UTC)