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Re Template:Medal[edit]
Hi! Please have a look on Template:Medal and Paul Elvstrøm on how to format the template for athletes with many medals. Smartskaft (talk) 07:46, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
2 things - 1; I have looked right through the Template:medal Section and there is nothing whatsoever that I could see on what order medals should be listed in . While Paul Elvstrom's medals may be listed with the oldest first, there are many other pages where the newest medal is listed first. In the case of Peter Burling who is currently very active , the most recent successes are the most relevant and in my opinion belong at the top of the table, whereas Paul Elvstrom's successes are many years ago and the order is less relevant.
2; I am a close relative of Peter Burling, as such I have been asked to keep his page updated. If you look through the history of his page, I am the main person who is adding content. I also watch the media related to Peter closely and see how the page is being used by them (frequently). I am confused as to why you persist in changing the medal order back to one which is not even chronologically correct. Hb26 (talk) 20:12, 13 April 2016 (UTC)Hb26
- @Hb26: First of all, thank you for your contribution to sailing-related articles! Most infoboxes seems to favour chronological order, can you please show me some examples of other orders. As far as I know, the most used order used is competition type, value, year. Remember this is an encyclopaedia, therefore it doesn't make difference if a sailor or entry is active or not, it is no difference if they happened in the 1960s or yesterday. It's usually not a good idea to write articles about oneself or closely-related people, since it's a risk of conflict of interest. Smartskaft (talk) 21:46, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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Re Peter Burling and Blair Tuke pages. I realise that your opinion is that it is " not a good idea to write articles about oneself or closely-related people, since it's a risk of conflict of interest". May I suggest that you review other high profile sailors' pages - which are almost all very out of date, as Peter's and Blair's would be if I didn't update them. As I am reporting factual results and not opinions, I can see no issue with conflict of interest. The reason I was asked to update their Wikipedia pages was because of the repeated inaccuracies in the NZ and international media. As the person who updates their pages, I see the pages being used a lot by the media. It is for this reason that I am frustrated by your continual "undos". E.g. Blair won his 29er and Splash worlds at the same venue. You continually revert this so it looks like they were won at 2 different places. E.g. Peter won his Moth worlds in Sorrento, Australia. When you reverted it to say just "Sorrento", media reports said that he won in Sorrento, Italy.
I do realise that you have a passion for arranging the medal table with the oldest medals first but have not anywhere been able to find that this is a formal Wikipedia policy. Hb26 (talk) 20:53, 30 April 2016 (UTC)Hb26
Hi Smartskaft. We are obviously both frustrated with each others "undos" of our edits. (Peter Burling and Blair Tuke pages) From my point of view. I have not seen any policy on Wikipedia which says which order medals should be templated in. I continue to believe that for Peter and Blair, their most recent result is of most importance to anyone looking at their pages and therefore belongs at the top. You also persist in changing the venues of their World titles. FYI - Blair won both his Splash and 29er Worlds at the same place, yet your edit makes it look as if they were different places. Peter's Moth world title in Sorrento was reported by the media as being in Italy (as the Wikipedia page at the time just said "Sorrento") - where in fact it was in Australia. Hence I feel including the country is important. I realize you feel that as a relative of Peter's I have a conflict of interest. May I suggest you have a look at other top sailors' Wikipedia pages , the majority of which have very little recent information - as would Peter's and Blair's if I was not updating them. I am adding factual content (results) - not opinions. The Wikipedia pages are used a lot by local and worldwide media and as someone who watches their media coverage closely , it is nice to see accurate up-to-date information being reported. I would have thought you would respect the fact that both Peter and Blair have asked me to keep their pages up to date and stop undoing my edits. Hb26 (talk) 20:51, 3 May 2016 (UTC)hb26
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