User talk:Somno/Archive 1

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Regarding edits to Mach Pelican

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Today I learnt that a large number of good edits to a page can be reverted simply by including the band's MySpace blog as a reference. Now I know for next time!! Somno 10:03, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

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Another welcome

Welcome from the W.A. crew. Some of the main W.A. contributors are on Wikibreak at the moment, but if you keep editing W.A.-related material you're sure to bump into them sooner or later. You might like to have a look at WP:WA. Hesperian 14:00, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism Warning

My additions to The Exorcist (film) were not intended to be vandalism. That story falls under that category of urban legends and is well known around the campus here. Sorry for the misunderstanding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.108.232.35 (talk) 09:42, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

actually i just checked what you changed. I only added the urban legend part. The other thing you deleted wasn't me, I don't know why that happened, maybe it was my roommate. Again, my apologies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.108.232.35 (talk) 09:45, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Block requests

If you're referring to User:69.248.85.3—who is now blocked—the timing of his edits is why I initially declined to block him. All times UTC:

03:53: IP vandalizes Ian Eagle

03:54: You give level 2 warning to IP

04:00: You give level 3 warning to IP—since this is the first warning that mentions that he may be blocked, this is considered the first "final" warning

04:02: You report to AIV

Note that the IP has not made any edits since 03:53—since you warned him with the level 2 warning.

04:05: I note at AIV that no vandalism has occurred since the warning, effectively declining the block request (though I leave him listed)

04:08: IP vandalizes Brian Scalabrine

04:10: I revert vandalism

04:11: I consider whether to give a level 4 warning, which specifies that any further vandalism will result in a block. However, given the nature of the vandalism, I go ahead and block him.

That's the key to me, is what has the vandal done since the last edit. I've been known to revert vandalism and leave a level 1 warning. Then, after looking at the users contributions and seeing a pattern, I'll up it to level 2 or 3. I give them the chance to learn from the warning, though. It's only if they continue to vandalize after being warned that I block. (Though every rule has exceptions, and for extremely racist or defamatory vandalism, I will block quicker.) —C.Fred (talk) 04:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Don't forget that if a page is being targeted for vandalism, you can request page protection. And you know, I thought I saw the same article titles on the new edit history as on the old one. —C.Fred (talk) 04:27, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

do not contribut?

Please explain what I did wrong with my last addition of photo archive.

Thx Mirko11 (talk) 07:22, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Welcome

Welcome to the Wikiproject. cygnis insignis 07:39, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome! I figured since I was adding a new article suggested by the WikiProject, it might make sense to join. :) Somno (talk) 07:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Yep, that's the rules. :) What is the article? cygnis insignis 07:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Russell Dumas - I walk past his pavement marker thingy on St Georges Terrace every day, so I figured who better to start an article on him than me? ;) Somno (talk) 08:08, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Just read it, excellent subject. Both libraries in the city have a copy of: J.S.H. LePage, Building a State, Water Authority of WA, (Leederville, 1986) ISBN 0-7244-6862-5, it would be sure to have some material to add. I added a tag for the project already, but I will make an edit to the inline citations - see what you think. cygnis insignis 08:15, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

That is miles better! I'm going to do it that way from now on. Thanks for your help. Somno (talk) 08:29, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Here is a template for ADB;

{{ADB|last= "author last name" |first= "author first name" |authorlink= "author article (optional)" |year= "publish year" |id= "htm page from ADB" |title= "ADB article title" |accessdate= "access date (using YYYY-MM-DD format)"}}

Having just recommended it, I should start using it myself :P cygnis insignis 08:38, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi again, regarding [1] West Australian is an accepted phrasing and is interchangable with Western Australian. I thought it 'sounded' better too, am I overlooking something? cygnis insignis 08:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Russell Dumas

Hi. I've nominated Russell Dumas, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created.2Fexpanded on December 11, where you can improve it if you see fit. Black Falcon ^(Talk) 23:17, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Russell Dumas, was selected for DYK!

On December 16, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Russell Dumas, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

-- Royalbroil 04:28, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Yay! Now I really should get onto expanding that article some more. Somno (talk) 00:03, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Frank Gardner

Saw your comments at Frank Gardner (driver), don't think the bot is wrong. What's happened I think is another editor has decided that another Frank Gardner (a British journalist) is more deserving of the Frank Gardner page than the racing driver Frank Gardner and done a half-assed job of swapping them and not changed the around 100 or so now broken links. Recommend that it all gets restored to where it was yesterday. --Falcadore (talk) 00:44, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, I thought it was unusual that the bot was wrong. Sounds like a good idea. :) Somno (talk) 00:51, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Red Jezebel

Your edits are a step forward on the article - have clarified the issue of the intended EP and added some additional references. Dan arndt (talk) 08:08, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Dan. I couldn't find info on the EP so I'm glad you've fixed that bit. :) Somno (talk) 23:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

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Just cos

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Google Criticism

I assume you removed the paragraph I added about Google. Do you work for Google or own Google stock? There is no doubt that crawling the Texas sex offender database is against its terms of use. It is hard to reference libel without committing the same crime yourself. I would be happy to provide screen shots of the incident I referred to. What if you typed your name into Google and got back results from a sex offender database? It is defamatory for everyone who shares that name. Google is defaming the executives at competing companies. I don't believe this qualifies as do no evil. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.35.166 (talk) 08:42, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi. No, I don't work for Google. You can criticise Google all you like, I don't mind or particularly care; the only issue is that everything you add to the encyclopedia (particularly controversial stuff) needs to be sourced from a reliable source. You can add anything, as long as you can back it up. Also, if you check the history of that page, I haven't edited at all, let alone taken out anything you've added. My point was just to remind you to add a reference for your information (i.e. to help you improve the article). Also, please sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~) after your text - it will add an automatic signature. Hope that helps. Somno (talk) 23:50, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

I don't intend to stop. 91.108.210.124 (talk) 01:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay, then expect people to keep reverting it. Somno (talk) 01:02, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes I shall, as you should expect me to keep undoing the reverts. 91.108.210.124 (talk) 01:04, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, at least until you get banned for vandalism. Somno (talk) 01:07, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

At which point I merely select another IP. 91.108.210.124 (talk) 01:09, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't you get bored of the pointlessness of it all? Somno (talk) 01:10, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Not really no, I don't have anything better to do. 91.108.210.124 (talk) 01:12, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

That's pretty sad. I hope you find something more constructive to do soon. You know you can make constructive edits to articles as well as vandalise them, right? Might want to consider doing that instead, it's more rewarding. Somno (talk) 01:14, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Why is making constructive edits more rewarding? 91.108.232.71 (talk) 01:15, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Because you're contributing to bettering a free encyclopedia. It's like donating to charity. Somno (talk) 01:17, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't find donating to charity particularly fun, I prefer keeping the money myself. If you look at the article I am currently vandalising, then given that I claim to know something about good music, you might appreciate that I feel offended that such an individual is given an article about themselves in this encyclopedia. I would much rather inflict my point of view on such an article than allow it to remain in its current state. That rubbish music of this kind is actually listened to really annoys me. 91.108.255.244 (talk) 01:22, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I take it you're aware that you've just violated WP:3RR, 91.108.255.244 (talk) 01:28, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

3RR only applies in edit warring, not reverting vandalism. Somno (talk) 01:29, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

But my point about the article itself still stands right? 91.108.255.244 (talk) 01:31, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

If it's notable, it can have an article. Sorry, but that's the way it is. There are probably many articles about things you don't like, it's just the way it is. Somno (talk) 01:34, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Well then what can possibly be more fun about editing constructively than vandalising such articles? 91.108.205.92 (talk) 01:35, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Ah semi-protected at last. At least that means I have something to show for all my strife. A good evening's work wouldn't you say? 91.108.205.92 (talk) 01:37, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

It's sad that you're proud of that. I hope you find something more constructive to do with your evenings soon. Somno (talk) 01:38, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

If you say so. Anyway now that's complete I think I shall be off to bed. Goodnight, 91.108.205.92 (talk) 01:40, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately for the IP, we have the ability to range block. I have blocked his IP range for two weeks and will now proceed to unprotect the article. -- tariqabjotu 01:56, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Excellent! Thanks Tariqabjotu. Now I can move onto doing something less frustrating. Somno (talk) 02:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like you're in good shape with the range block. Let me know if you have further difficulties. Dreadstar † 02:06, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

You can request a range block of an active vandal on WP:AIV or WP:ANI, those are pretty good avenues for fast help. Dreadstar † 02:15, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Fonty's Pool

Lovely work and thanks. Now all we need is a current day photo which shouldn't be too hard (in theory) as lots of ppl go down that way. I'll leave a note at WT:WA if you like. I reckon it'd be DYK-worthy. —Moondyne 01:14, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for adding it to WT:WA; I haven't seen that page before. I think it's too late for DYK, since I wrote it on 31 December (and unfortunately only investigated the rules for DYK a few days ago). The only photo I know I have of Fonty's Pool is one of me and a whole bunch of family members as kids lined up along the diving board - although funny, it's not really suitable for an encyclopedia. :) Somno (talk) 02:16, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Not to worry. —Moondyne 03:17, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

fosters

fosters is well nice beer! do you drink it a lot being an aussie? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevin Anton's Lazy Eye (talk • contribs) 18:05, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Australians don't drink Fosters, it's a myth. There's info in the article about the beers we do actually drink. :) Don't forget to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~), and welcome to Wikipedia! Somno (talk) 01:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 13 January, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Deanmill, Western Australia, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Wizardman 00:41, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

On-beat dance roller skating

I removed the nonsense tag from On-beat dance roller skating because it isn't really nonsense, but I did put an afd tag on it for discussion. Corvus cornix_talk 01:14, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree, I wasn't really sure what to do with it. Thanks! Somno (talk) 01:17, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Warning

When you warn someone, start with at least the Caution warning. Otherwise there will be insufficient warnings for a block. ALLSTARecho 02:56, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, have replied on your talk page. Somno (talk) 03:02, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Are you using Twinkle? ALLSTARecho 03:02, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Nope, copying and pasting template messages. Somno (talk) 03:04, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

If it's a user that has never been warned before, it's good practice to at least warn first with level 2. Admins frown upon less than 3 warnings so starting at 2 then 3 then 4 is 3 warnings so on the 4th violation you can reasonably request a block without actually having to issue a 4th warning. ALLSTARecho 03:07, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Will do, thanks for letting me know. :) Somno (talk) 03:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 16 January, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cliff Friend‎, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Your credit was accidentally missed, so here it is. Thanks for you patience. You can let someone know next time that it was missed. --Royalbroil 14:22, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Abby Dobson

Bear with me...I am new to Wiki. Trying to edit without publishing it yet. THought SAVE meant to save it & come back to it; not PUBLISH it.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BunNcheese (talk • contribs) 01:12, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

No worries. Have put a welcome message and note about setting up your user sandbox on your talk page. :) Somno (talk) 01:20, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Rabi Loew

can you explain what exactly is wrong with my edit? Why you talking about yahoo? are you trying to be smart ass? read my edit and explanation., before being arogant and cocky. Rabi Loew- crated Golem (based on legend) And Rabi Loew has been buried in cementary next to synagoga. Se article about Rabi Loew before being "smart" 71.99.121.55 (talk) 03:21, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't know what Rabi Loew is, so my comment wasn't about that. My comment was about your revert in Freddy Newandyke (under another IP address, so I assume you're using another IP address to get around a ban). That had a user-submitted answer to Yahoo! Answers as a reference for something in Wikipedia. Yahoo! Answers is not a reliable source. Also, it's not particularly polite to accuse others of being "arrogant" or "cocky" when they're trying to help you understand policy. Somno (talk) 03:27, 24 January 2008 (UTC)