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Duplicate images uploaded[edit]

Thanks for uploading Image:Stoplightcourt.jpg. A machine-controlled robot account noticed that you also uploaded the same image under the name Image:Stoplight.jpg. The copy called Image:Stoplight.jpg has been marked for speedy deletion since it is redundant. If this sounds okay to you, there is no need for you to take any action.

This is an automated message- you have not upset or annoyed anyone, and you do not need to respond. In the future, you may save yourself some confusion if you supply a meaningful file name and refer to 'my contributions' to remind yourself exactly which name you chose (file names are case sensitive, including the extension) so that you won't lose track of your uploads. For tips on good file naming, see Wikipedia's image use policy. If you have any questions about this notice, or feel that the deletion is inappropriate, please contact User:Staecker, who operates the robot account. Staeckerbot 14:02, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Stoplight (Basketball), by WWGB, another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Stoplight (Basketball) seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting Stoplight (Basketball), please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at WP:WMD. Please note, this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion, it did not nominate Stoplight (Basketball) itself. Feel free to leave a message on the bot operator's talk page if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot. --Android Mouse Bot 2 14:23, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]


We keep articles on professional wrestling when those articles cite reliable independent sources showing that the subjects of the articles are notable. Your article cited no sources at all showing the notability of either "Stoplight" or streetball in general. With sentences such as "He would later reach a peak height of 7'11"." and "the ashes of Stoplight floated away on the wind", it looks a whole lot more like this is something you and the guys made up at school one night. But, if you can come up with reliable independent sources, let me know. NawlinWiki 03:14, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks for your note. Wikipedia policy on writing about fictional events is stated at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction). In short, "Wikipedia articles should describe fiction and fictional elements from the perspective of the real world, not from the perspective of the fiction itself." So, if Stoplight is a well-known legend among streetballers, and you can provide reliable sources establishing this, then you can write an article that begins something along the lines of "Stoplight is a legendary fictional streetball player... " and go from there. Thanks, NawlinWiki 14:33, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You wrote: <<What I want to establish is that the events take place in reality despite being rooted in fiction.>> With respect, I don't understand what you mean by this. If Stoplight is a real person, provide sources showing that. If it's a fictional person, provide those sources. If it's a real person who people make up fictional stories about, then make that clear -- and provide sources. Again, the point is that we are reporting on things, as they already exist, from a neutral point of view. We are not "adding to the legend." NawlinWiki 16:23, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]


As you requested, I've copied the text of the deleted article to your userspace at User:StreetballazCrunk/Stoplight (basketball). NawlinWiki 17:17, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Stoplight[edit]

If you really think it's notable, then you have to cite reliable sources. Like if a newspaper wrote something on him, or a reliable website. Sources need to be cited especially if the article has hard to believe sections in it. Wizardman 22:31, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see you actually had sources. I'm not sure what else to tell you. If it fails based on lack of notability, then there's not much you can do. Wizardman 22:32, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's fairly simple - if you want the article on Wikipedia, make sure any dubious claims are referenced to reliable sources, and cut the nonsense out of the article so we can tell the difference. There are no "semi-fictional" articles on Wikipedia. Rebecca 01:18, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]