User talk:Sulmuesi

This is an alternative account of Sulmues.

To admins

Please review User_talk:Makaperqafe#Thoughts_concerning_this_situation. Since "Sulmues" is compromised, I am going to use "Sulmuesi". --Sulmuesi (talk) 17:01, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Welcome back

WHy the change of user name though? Your edits to the Rinia Park article and your new "handsome" actor article prove why it was silly to block you. Why not resume as Sulmues?♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:07, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

I've missed you. I also forgot my password in the commons so I had to create a new account named Blofeld, Dr. LOL. I expanded Tirana County but didn't add the info about the county as i'd wished. It is better though.. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Well, you're my favourite sort of editor. One who cares about content and works hard towards articles and creates good quality sourced stuff which culturally add depth to wikipedia, and for A non-Anglo country too. If more editros were like you and stayed away from trying to be bureacrats and edited the encyclopedia instead we'd be much better off. At times it seems that us content contributors have the least respect from the "government" if you know what I mean... ♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:28, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

glad you're back

I've been looking through some articles while you were away and I noticed that Enver Hoxha seems worthy of GA status. It has already had a review but failed since there were no editors present to correct the problems with it. Do you agree that it should be presented again for GA review?--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 23:39, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

All right, but I think that sooner or later it should be promoted to at least GA status since the main writer put a huge amount of effort into it. I would work on it, but my knowledge on Enver is not as far-reaching as on Skanderbeg; plus, I do not have extensive access to books about him. I will begin to put to use Frasheri and Schmitt then, although I don't trust Schmitt.--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 23:50, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

The Uncle could probably become a GA.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 00:08, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

"Xhaxhi"n cojeni vete, une dua ta shoh stub gjithe jeten. --Sulmuesi (talk) 00:10, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Looks in excellent shape. I'll give it a read later. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:30, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Zaharia family

I have a picture of their coat of arms and there sources about important members of the family on google books.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 00:10, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Llazi Sërbo

Hello! Your submission of Llazi Sërbo at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! PM800 (talk) 04:47, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Re: Thanks

Good to see you back, man. Hope you never lose that desire for editing and contributing :) — Toдor Boжinov — 11:51, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Help needed

Thanks for the offer, I could actually use some help! I don't speak Albanian, so I have only translated parts I was sure about so far. I stumbled on some names for churches etc. that are too difficult for Google Translate, e.g. "Kisha e Shpërfytyrimit", "Kisha e Ungjillizimt", "Xhamia e Telelkave", etc. Do you have suggestions for English translations for those? And in "Kisha e Ristozit", is Ristoz(i) a name of a saint or a place? Same for "Kisha e Mezhanit". Markussep ^Talk 21:34, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Kisha e Shperfytyrimit = Metamorphosis Church

Kisha e Ungjillizimit = The correct translation would be Evangelist Church (ungjillizim=evangelization from ungjill=bible), but it's an Orthodox one, so probably the best translation would be the Messenger's Church, some Greek editors might help with this.

Xhamia e Telelkave = Telelka's Mosque (no clue what Telelkas are)

Ristoz Church (it's gotta be the person who built it, but may be a place too, not sure)

Mezhan Church (either the person, or some place in Middle East). If Kedadi will have any objections, he'll do the correct moves.--Sulmuesi (talk) 21:49, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Metamorphosis makes sense, that could be the Transfiguration of Jesus. I found more orthodox churches dedicated to that, for instance this one in Lithuania: Holy Transfiguration Church, Kėdainiai. Could the Ungjillizimit one be about the Annunciation? In Greek that's Ευαγγελισμός της Θεοτόκου Evangelismos tis Theotokou. Markussep ^Talk 22:05, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Agree on Kisha e Shperfytyrimit - > Holy Transfiguration Church.

On Kisha e Ungjillizimit you might be right, but I'm really not sure. In Albania there are churches called Kisha e Shen Vangjelizmoit, and I really don't want to speculate on a subject that I know superficially. --Sulmuesi (talk) 22:15, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

There's a few problematic monuments left now: Kisha e Mesodhisë in Vuno (Mesodhi could be a quarter, or an Orthodox holiday), Kompleksi i Xhemahallës in Delvinë (what is a Xhemahall?), the Kisha e Manastirit të Shën Mërisë (I can't find the village Kameno or Kanono anywhere near Sarandë) and Kisha e ancitit in Breg-Lum (what's "ancit"?). Markussep ^Talk 11:44, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Explanation on talkpage

Although your edit is completely correct, you must leave a message on the talkpage of St. Athanasius Church, Moscopole because it may be considered a partial revert.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 23:48, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Revert

Please see this [1], and try to be more careful in the future. Regards, Athenean (talk) 06:40, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Welcome back

Indeed, welcome back from me as well! Glad to see that you have returned and have resumed editing :). Pity that you have to use an alternate account, for as Sulmues, you were already well-established. Constantine ✍ 08:32, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Welcome back my friend --Vinie007 11:33, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Invite

Hello! I noticed you've made edits or that you are in some way connected to Albania or Albanians related articles. We are a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Albania and Albanians related topics and are organized within WikiProject Albania. I thought that you may be interested in viewing the current tasks of our WikiProject or its talk page and get involved. Furthermore, if you are interested in joining the wikiproject, please feel free to add your name in the Participants' page!. Thank you and, again, welcome among us!

Feel free to set name on list? --Vinie007 12:09, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Arapaj

Hi, interested in adding to this? Are you certain Cape of Rodon is north of Durres? The google map coordinates show it right down the south, south of Vlore?♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:11, 7 November 2010 (UTC) Thanks..♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:21, 7 November 2010 (UTC) No, thank you, I had messed up the coordinates.--Sulmuesi (talk) 16:24, 7 November 2010 (UTC) Should be OK now. I always prefer to use DMS, I hope this is OK by you..♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:26, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Stratioti

Intresting artcile check it out--Vinie007 19:59, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Ooh found it on google :P, would you mind if i send that book to you of Sadik Kaceli --Vinie007 20:03, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Do you think this is notabale to make an article of (it's a new nationalist party)--Vinie007 20:05, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

that wasn't about party but about the theory behind it that was made public in 2009 --Vinie007 20:24, 7 November 2010 (UTC) (Shqiperia Natyrale)

That i did ^^ --Vinie007 20:28, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Check this mate List of revolutions and rebellions and search for koplik their it says:

1945: The first anti-communist revolt in Eastern Europe in Koplik, Albania led by bayraktars and intellectuals., Maybe if we can found some sources we can make an intresting article and DYK --Vinie007 08:25, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

maps

we are lacking good maps for skanderbeg. look here. its a model we should follow. have you seen the bulgarian maps? theyre even better. i have no idea how to make maps. ill need your help finding someone that can. ive asked cradel in the past to do it but he didnt take it up. i put it to the map-making group and nobody took it up. i put it up on wpsq and same result. its a shame since good maps are essential for a proper military study. let me know if you have ideas.--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 04:17, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

thats great. if you can, please do so. ill be willing to help in any way i can.--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 02:08, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Llazi Sërbo

The DYK project (nominate) 06:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Another revert

It would be reasonable to provide an explanation for a recent revert here [[2]], per latest restriction imposed.Alexikoua (talk) 19:23, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

It's a vandalism. The source has 500,000. No need to explain. --Sulmuesi (talk) 21:39, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Please contact User:Athaenara. --Sulmuesi (talk) 13:33, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Delted

File talk:Jonuz Kaceli article Telegraph part 3.jpg why this is deleted? --Vinie007 06:54, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Bunkers in Albania, could you help me bring it DYK? --Vinie007 13:50, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes i am to intrested in positif thinks, but this tells us how panoraia Enver was --Vinie007 13:55, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

You don't need to hide the 50 years of hell to the others. --Vinie007 14:00, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

I partley agree, but not with the not-writing part --Vinie007 14:08, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

expulsion from wp:albania

It was the best decision to withdraw this weird accusation proccess from wp:albania, but in case you aren't sure about which procedure to follow it will be appropriate to fill a case in wp:ani as a first step. In general such discussions (asking for a topic ban or 'expulsion') in such wikiprojects are virtually a waste of time.Alexikoua (talk) 14:51, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Gjurmët: Great!

I have some problems with more information though. If you ever find any reference please let me know. Or edit it yourself. Thanks! —Anna Comnena (talk) 21:10, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

An article about Fall of communism in Albania good enough to get your help :P? --Vinie007 13:31, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Qyteti Ilir qe u fsheh nga sllavet--Vinie007 15:40, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

You must leave a message on the talkpage of Skanderbeg regarding the revert.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 01:14, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Do you think it's ready now for DYK? --Vinie007 11:31, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

battle of oranik

its mentioned by hodgkinson actually and by franco. frasheris work deals mainly with diplomacy among other things so that is probably why he did not mention it. we'll change it later if we need to though. and i agree that torvioll should be redone but ive really busy in real life so i might not be able to work on it much. come thanksgiving break, however, i may have spare time.--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 18:17, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Deleting

I deleted text of this translation since I realised that I most probably violated copyright law by publishing it here. I saved the text, and if you feel like needing it, please let me know, and I will find a way to send it to you.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:39, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Skanderbeg

"... whose armies he successfully ousted from his native land for more than two decades". Ousting is an immediate thing, like throwing a ball. Malleus Fatuorum 03:58, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Hello Sulmues! I've made some copyedits, streamlined usage of certain names & terms, etc. Generally, the article is OK, certainly a far cry from the mess it used to be. Well done! Now, some specific issues for improvement:

1. The "Early life", and especially his Ottoman service is a bit chronologically mixed. I'd prefer a more sequential form.

Sulmues response: A note is needed for this, good catch.  Not fixed

2. Also, it is not explained (aside from the demotion to Nikopol, whose reasons are also unclear) why Skanderbeg chose to defect the Ottoman cause, i.e. his motivations, which IMO is a major lack.

Sulmues response: A note is needed for this, good catch.  Not fixed

3. There are a few awkward phrases where the meaning is not clear: "a promise of graduation to the Turkish army" (graduation?), "informed of the Ottoman movements within the borders" (whose borders?).

Sulmues response:  Fixed

4. Breaking up the three large main sections of "Albanian resistance" with a few subsections would go a great way to make overview easier.

Sulmues response: Malleus has another approach usually so I'm not sure about this.

5This source is also very problematic in terms of verifiability: "Archivio del Gran Priorato di Napoli e Sicilia del Sovrano Militare Ordine di Malta, Napoli", and the descendants' section in general needs more refs.

Sulmues response: My biggest headache, I gotta ask Attilios or Aldux who are the likely ones to have entered that.  Not fixed

6. On the "Legacy" section, aside from Skanderbeg's undoubted skill, I would wager that the terrain of Albania also made successful defense far more possible than say for Bulgaria.

Sulmues response: Yes, and there are sources for that. Not fixed

7. Anyhow, some sources considering his tactics and strategy, as well as his diplomatic skills (needed to keep the League of Lezhe together) are vital here. This statement "When in 1481 Sultan Mehmet II captured Otranto, he massacred the male population, thus proving what Skanderbeg had been warning about" is problematic. What had Skanderbeg been warning about? Ottoman brutality? A massacre of a town's inhabitants was sadly neither uncommon nor limited to the Ottomans at the time.

Sulmues response: Will need to explain better probably how the west was in denial, whereas the Balkans were fully experience the Turkish hordes.  Not fixed

8.I'd also like to see a bit more on how Skanderbeg was regarded by the Ottomans, both at the time and by later (and modern Turkish) historians.

Sulmues response: I have entered some stuff from the chronicans, but I agree that more is needed. Go find the modern Turkish historians, though, you will get an idea how Turkey has so few articles in Wikipedia, when it would normally have 10 times much, but I'll try.  Not fixed

9. No worries. I understand that different viewpoints exist, and for a man like Skanderbeg, there are bound to be disagreements. Take your time to ensure quality. I also repeat my suggestion to bring it to WPMILHIST peer review once you are done, which is one of the best places around to hammer out any remaining deficiencies. Also, I forgot to add a point above that is absolutely essential: the article desperately needs a couple of good maps, one for the general situation in the Balkans during the mid-15th century like this one (so that the overall strategic/political picture becomes clear and people like Hunyadi and Vlad are placed in their geographic context) and a more detailed one for Albania, because most people won't have any idea where most of the places mentioned in the text are. Constantine ✍ 15:18, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Sulmues response: I'll scan some maps and start doing them. It's in the pipeline.  Not fixed

Plz send me your email so I can send you Inalcik's excellent article from the Encyclopaedia of Islam. Constantine ✍ 17:32, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Albanian - Ottoman Wars

The term point to league of Lezhe. Actually these wars started from 1385 at battle of Savre to 1479 end of the resistance in Shkodër. Within this period there were also Spata, Zenebishta, Arianiti, Gjon Kastrioti, Muzaka etc who fought but some were defeated and some had victories up to the moment Scanderbeg. I think that should be a separate title including all these events. Aigest (talk) 08:47, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Albanian revolts

I am preparing other articles (1911). Do you have any proposal? Meanwhile, what do you need in existing ones? Aigest (talk) 09:02, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the support

Thanks Sulmues for the support. It is clear that some users are real people and I've long known of decent personalities in you, Kedadi and a host of other editors on Balkan subjects. It's a cruel thing what politics does to us all but as long as we can discuss things and not go off our heads like the radicals on each side, there will always be an air of warmth, friendship and most of all, humour (a lot of my comments are toungue-in-cheek). Look upon the politics as a day job, something we argue about from 0900-1700 (or whatever our editing equivalent is), and after that, we all live side by side: our kids play on the street, we neighbours sit by the step of someone's house drinking coffee, playing cards, etc.. Honestly, it is a lifestyle I would never give up for the whole world! They live like that in Kosovo, Macedonia, Belgrade even, Croatia, everywhere in S.E.Europe. Your words are encouraging and I will pull through, I think positive! Anyhow, let's keep up our contributions and keep working towards a consensus on all those horrible issues. I'll never ask you to stop representing an Albanian angle on affairs, to do so would be preposterous and somewhat defiant of all that your great nation has stood for down the centuries. But how you've hitherto gone about things has been excellent, so here's to a continuation of constructive editing! Evlekis (Евлекис) 10:50, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Archives at Skanderbeg article

You can find them at Noli's work in Albanian. There are three different editions of Skanderbeg in Albanian version and there are a lot of translated (some are in Latin) sources used by Noli in his works. I haven't seen the English version, but they should be there also. Cheers Aigest (talk) 15:31, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Do you have the Albanian version of the book? Aigest (talk) 15:36, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it depends on the version of the original or maybe full bibliography texts are not used in the English version. Aigest (talk) 15:44, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

LOOK HERE YOU CAN SEE THEM. Aigest (talk) 15:46, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Noli is considered his main biographer in English and his work the best modern or the standard modern biography in English. Noli would have said for Schmitt "(he) is exaggerating to look original". Aigest (talk) 16:02, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Ku dhe kur perdoret "Archivio del Gran Priorato di Napoli e Sicilia del Sovrano Militare Ordine di Malta, Napoli"? Aigest (talk) 16:02, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Tek ky tekst nuk eshte perdorur Noli me duket. Aigest (talk) 12:09, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Subash I Dibres

Interviste me Kristo Frasherin ne 2005:

"Me duket se argumentet jane trajtuar ne monografine e botuar me 2002. Ketu dua te kujtoj faktin se qe nga viti 1438, ku Skenderbeu ishte subash i Krujes e deri ne vitin 1443 kur ai braktisi frontin e Nishit dhe shpalosi flamurin e kryengritjes clirimtare, emri i tij ne burimet historike te ketyre 5 viteve nuk ndeshet. Ekziston nje sanxhakbej me emrin Skenderbej si qeveritar ne Nikopoll te Bullgarise dhe duan te thone se ai eshte Skenderbeu yne. Por ky dokument para se gjithash nuk ka date, pra nuk dihet se kur ky Skender-bej ka qene qeveritar ne kete sanxhak te Bullgarise. Mund te kete qene disa dhjetevjecare me pare, por edhe disa dhjetevjecare me pas vitit 1443. Vec kesaj kush na siguron se ne ate Perandori Osmane teper te gjere ka patur vetem nje Skenderbe dhe sa here qe ndeshemi me ndonje Skenderbe menjehere duhet te themi se ai eshte medoemos Gjergj Kastrioti Skenderbeu yne. Edhe ne kete rast- tregimi i Barletit se Skenderbeu shkoi ne frontin e Nishit jo nga Shqiperia por nga Turqia dhe se u kthye ne atdhe pasi kishte qendruar larg tij 29 vjet, ka mosperputhje, jo vetem me faktin qe tashme e kemi te sigurte se ai me 1438 ishte subash i Krujes, por edhe me vetveten. Kete mosperputhje te Barletit me vetveten e ka vene ne dukje Fan Noli. Barleti ndersa thote se Skenderbeu u kthye ne atdhe me 1443 pas nje mergimi te gjate (qe kur u dorezua peng) ne dy raste kur u flet bashkeatdhetareve te vet Heroi le te nenkuptohet se eshte kthyer ne atdhe me 1438, pra pikerisht kur ne e ndeshim ne burimet kadastrale osmane. Ne mungese te dokumentave te drejtperdrejta vlen dhe llogjika historike. Ne ndihme te saj vijne keto konsiderata historike, te cilat dalin nga vete vepra e humanistit shkodran. Sipas tij, kur ai shkoi ne frontin e Nishit ishte sanxhakbej, d.m.th. qeveritar ushtarak i nje sanxhaku. E dyta, qe Skenderbeu duhet te kete qene qeveritar i nje sanxhaku me popullsi shqiptare, e deshmojne 300 kaloresit (afersisht aq sa kishte nje sanxhakbej), te cilet duhej te ishin bashkeatdhetare te tij, perndryshe po te ishin turq ose te ndonje kombesie tjeter nuk mund ta ndiqnin pas komandantin e tyre ne kete akt, qe ishte nje tradheti ndaj sulltanit. E treta entuziasmi me te cilin dibranet e priten Skenderbeun tregon se ai ishte njeriu i tyre, ashtu sic qene dhe 300 kaloresit e tij.

Kemi me ne fund edhe tre pohime te tjera, njerin e jep orientalisti gjerman J. Kramer, i cili thote se me 1436 Skenderbeu kishte nje feud ne Diber. Tjetri eshte kronisti venedikas, Donado da Lezze, i cili shkruan se Skenderbeu pasi braktisi frontin e Nishit, u kthye brenda 3 diteve ne vendin e vet. Me rendesi te vecante eshte njoftimi i trete qe permban kronika e Stefano Magnos, i cili duke folur per largimin e Gjergj Kastriotit nga Fronti i Nishit ne nentor 1443 dhe ardhjen e tij Brenda tre diteve ne Shqiperi, e prezanton Skenderbeun me keto fjale: "Gjergj Kastrioti qe nje zot i vjeter me nje pjese te Shqiperise ne vendin dhe ne malesine qe quhej Diber" (Zorzi Castriotti fu antiquo signor in parte deAlbania del paese et montagna chiamando Sdibra). Eshte per te ardhur keq se kete fraze K. Bicoku e ka hequr nga fragmenti i kronikes se St. Magnos qe ai ka botuar ne vitin 1970. Keto indikacione nuk jane njoftime te perpikta dokumentare, por te marra bashkarisht ato jane me bindese sesa varianti i M. Barletit dhe atyre qe riprodhojne Barletin".

Te njejten gje e gjen dhe ne liber dhe ben me shume sens sesa qendrimi ne Nikopol. Aigest (talk) 12:09, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Document that mention Skanderbeg before 1426?

Here is a site with text that I don't understand, but it seems to me like it says that there is a document dated February 25, 1420. that mentions Skanderbeg?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 19:01, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

“Nel 1417 si dichiara vasallo di Venezia. Il 25 febbraio 1420, insieme con i suoi quattro figli machi, Stanish, Reposh, Constantino e Giorgio sottoscrive un accordo commerciale con la Repubblica di Ragusa avente ad oggeto le imposte doganali che i mercanti ragusei si impegnano a pagare a Castriota per poter attraversare le loro terre.”--Antidiskriminator (talk) 19:16, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Re: Skanderbeg

Hi Sulmuesi, always glad to help! From a quick glance at the article, it seems to be rather well referenced and thorough enough in its coverage.

1. There seem to be a bit too many images, though, some of which hardly relevant. Why don't you do away with the portraits of Western rulers and the pope, as well as other less important pictures? On my widescreen resolution, these look particularly overwhelming. I'd remove the List of battles and campaigns section too, it's kind of pointless in my opinion.

(Sulmi) I think I should get rid of the battles list and keep the campaigns one only.--Sulmuesi (talk) 21:54, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

2. Have you considered a Background section? It is usually a good practice to assume that the reader has no prior knowledge of the history of Albania and the Balkans. You can begin with a very short summary of medieval Albanian history and go on with the Ottoman conquest of the Balkans, just to make sure the reader won't be intimidated by the more specific details that would naturally follow. This is by no means a GA or even FA requirement, but I think it would be an improvement.

(Sulmi) That's actually a great suggestion, and there is plenty of material.--Sulmuesi (talk) 21:54, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

3. Try to avoid short sections: there's at least one section which consists of a single sentence, which is a thing to avoid. Also, make sure your sentences are short and clear and avoid long-winding phrases. By all means make sure you have every single fact in the article referenced with a footnote. [citation needed] and unreferenced sentences are simply out of the question, even for DYK these days :)

(Sulmi) Yep. You're right on all of that.--Sulmuesi (talk) 21:54, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

4. Overall, it's looking pretty good. I love the Notes and the Name section is definitely a good idea. If you're unsure about the prose, you could ask the folks at WP:COPYEDITORS or do a WP:PR, which is the step you'll want make if you're looking for something more than GA anyway :) — Toдor Boжinov — 19:45, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

(Sulmi) Let me do it actually. This is a great idea. It'll be a first--Sulmuesi (talk) 21:54, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Map

In the archive of the Talk page of Skanderbeg I found this map. What do you think about it?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:21, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

I don't have much experience with maps. If this map can be supported with reliable and credible sources that describes teritorry that was under control of Skanderbeg and other notables then it may be good to ask somebody to draw it for this article? I am preparing a list of non resolved issues here in order to try to resolve one issue by one. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 16:03, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

I will of course merge suggestions of Cplakidas and TodorBozhinov and rest of non-resolved issues with list. I guess that it is normal to start with the beginning of the article and general observations, like I did when I started discussing on the talk page of this article. The further you go into details, the lower are chances for disagreements and prejudices to affect our judgement. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 19:22, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Skenderbeg

I have fixed the ga nomination link in the talk page, but in case you are into a second nomination its appropriate to close the first one. It's a bit weird to have two nominations active at the same time (what if they lead to diferrent results?).Alexikoua (talk) 15:57, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

I understand. Then you should archive the 1st nomination, reading it seems like its in the middle of procedure (some nominations take 2 or 3 months...). As I know nominations close as pass or fail. It's better to leave a message on the gan discussion, but if I were you I would just archive it as fail in order to procced to the second nomination.Alexikoua (talk) 17:07, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Did he build anything?

In the same time like Skanderbeg, on similar position was Isa-Beg Isaković who built a lot of thighs. Probably Skanderbeg build something, but there is not much about it in the article?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 20:23, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

If he built Rodoni Castle, then it is important thing that should have its text in the article?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:00, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Evrenos

Here is a link that says something about Evrenos. He is maybe Evrenos who is supposedly Greek origin, father of Ishak-beg who adopted a Serbian boy in Bosnia and gave him name Isa, who is later known as Isa-beg Isaković.... My point is that it is not Evrenos who fought against Skanderbegs father in 1430 (because he died in 1417 (when he was 129!), but his son Isa, known as Ishak-beg, father of Isa-beg Isaković. He was the one ruling the Skopje and in his honour Isa-beg Isaković built a mosque in Skopje. Ishak-beg mosque in Skopje--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:55, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Maybe Isa-beg could be identified as Isa-beg Evrenos with Evrenos meaning the father's name, but I propose you to check the source, because the only "Isa-beg Evrenos" on Google Search is from this article. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:57, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Albanian Revolt of 1910

Materialscientist (talk) 12:05, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Back on the copyediting task

Sorry about the delay, I am at college and had some homework assigned which needed doing. I am continuing the copyediting now. Reaper Eternal (talk) 12:57, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Good luck with the Skanderbeg article. You seme to have done a great job on it!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:20, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words on what little work I did- the article looks excellent to me. Ning-ning (talk) 23:52, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Albanian Revolt of 1910

I think that article Albanian Revolt of 1910 does not meet criteria that are requested for good article. I provided some (not all) reasons on the talk page, and review page. My proposal is to remove nomination and to work on improving it. I dont think that it can be done within a week, so there is no need to put article on hold. What do you think?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:35, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Admins

You want an admin to stand up re the Balkans etc? Keep me informed, though I'm really busy right now. Might be less busier next year. Regards Buckshot06 (talk) 23:49, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Documents

Please respond to this discussion--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 22:30, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

hello

Hey Sulmues. I noticed that you haven't been on for a while. I hope everything is okay with you.--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 18:40, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Welcome back

I think you may have the wrong idea (or I may!) ... the best I can tell, this account hasn't been blocked or banned, and you're not currently under any editing restrictions, except possibly at WP:AE. (Correct me if I'm wrong about AE, I was told this but I don't have a link.) Skanderbeg's Italian expedition passed its A-class review in May, but it will need some help getting through FAC ... would you like to participate? - Dank (push to talk) 20:47, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	Awarded as recognition for your diligence in Albanian-related articles. Congratulations! ZogSokoli (talk) 17:26, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!

Hi,
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Nomination of Albanian hat for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Albanian hat is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Albanian hat until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Ibadibam (talk) 18:21, 18 May 2020 (UTC)