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May 2018

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The State of Palestine

Welcome to Wikipedia. Please note that, before making controversial changes to established articles, you should obtain a consensus from the editing community.

There are several articles on Wikipedia that list sovereign states, and all of them include as sovereign states (i) the 193 members of the UN and (ii) Vatican City, whose territory is not claimed by any other country (in fact, it is surrounded by Italy, which signed a treaty recognizing its independence) and has not been rejected for UN membership (nor has it applied for membership). The State of Palestine and the Republic of Kosovo both have been recognized by over half of UN states, and Taiwan is de facto recognized by a majority of UN states (albeit not de jure because of threats from China), but the three are not states of the UN (in fact, Taiwan was expelled and replaced by China and Palestine was rejected for membership) and face claims upon their territory from UN members (Israel, Serbia and China, respectively). Thus, they are listed in Wikipedia articles as de facto sovereign states with limited international recognition. Before making a change to the numerous articles that make this distinction, you should obtain consensus from the editing community, and the way to do it is through discussion in the Talk page of each of those articles, not by making wholesale changes and then, when they are reverted with explanations, simply ignoring it and making the changes again.

Until the State of Palestine is admitted as a member of the UN, I believe that it should remain classified as a state with limited international recognition. But maybe you can convince the editing community that Palestine is a special enough case that it should be deemed a sovereign state despite its rejection by the UN, so you should state your case in the Talk pages of the articles where you wish for the State of Palestine to be included with Egypt and Hungary instead of with Kosovo and Taiwan. AuH2ORepublican (talk) 01:56, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Please note the following: "All IP editors, accounts with fewer than 500 edits, and accounts with less than 30 days tenure are prohibited from editing any page that could be reasonably construed as being related to the Arab-Israeli conflict." --NeilN ^{talk to me} 04:18, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Arab-Israeli conflict: 500 edits and 30 days

Please note: as NeilN told you above: All IP editors, accounts with fewer than 500 edits, and accounts with less than 30 days tenure are prohibited from editing any page that could be reasonably construed as being related to the Arab-Israeli conflict. This is the case even if extended confirmed protection has not been applied. This edit unquestionably violates that restriction and I have reverted it. You've also managed to insert the Arab-Israeli conflict in articles where it never was before and that I am loath to extended confirm protect because it really shouldn't fall within the conflict area. You also seem to be making mass changes regarding how Palestine/the Palestinian Authority is named in articles (NeilN might have some interest here as he deals with this more than I do.)

All that being said, if you edit an article that is within the Arab-Israeli conflict scope again before you have 500 edits and 30 days of editing, you will be blocked temporarily as an arbitration enforcement action. It should not come to this, but I want to be clear so there isn't any doubt as to the situation in this area. All the best, TonyBallioni (talk) 00:55, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

May 2018

To enforce an arbitration decision and for violating WP:ARBPIA3, you have been blocked from editing for a period of 72 hours. You are welcome to edit once the block expires; however, please note that the repetition of similar behavior may result in a longer block or other sanctions.

If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement noticeboard]] or [[WP:AN|administrators' noticeboard]]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page. NeilN ^{talk to me} 03:39, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reminder to administrators: In May 2014, ArbCom adopted the following procedure instructing administrators regarding Arbitration Enforcement blocks: "No administrator may modify a sanction placed by another administrator without: (1) the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or (2) prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes" [in the procedure]). Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped."

I saw your posts on TonyBallioni's talk page. You already said you'd walk away from the area here. You didn't, so now you're blocked. Further occurrences of violating the 500/30 restriction may result in longer blocks and/or lengthy topic bans. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 03:46, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I wasn’t aware of this or I would have blocked instead of warning. This is why I ping you on these things, NeilN. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:51, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate that, Tony. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 03:53, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've sort of ended up here following talk pages. Just a few points to the above - The 30/500 rule was instituted for a very good reason. In general, editors with less experience don't understand the intricacies of Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Consequently, you need to get more experience on Wikipedia before contributing to this most sensitive of topic areas. For example, your post at Tony's talk page "All I am trying to push and campaign for is to list Palestine..." smacks of righting great wrongs. Furthermore, at Canada–Israel relations, you made edits, which at יניב הורון‎'s talk you claim "They were based on factual evidence and thorough research and this is unnaceptable!". I suggest you take a look at WP:original research, WP:verifiability and WP:citing your sources. I suggest that you use these 72 hours away from editing to read those pages, and you'll be harmoniously contributing to Wikipedia in no time. ∰Bellezzasolo✡ Discuss 02:07, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Report at AE (I warned you)

[1]--יניב הורון (talk) 21:14, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

June 2018

To enforce an arbitration decision and for this series of edits, which violate the 500/30 restriction on the page Israel–European Union relations, you have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week. You are welcome to edit once the block expires; however, please note that the repetition of similar behavior may result in a longer block or other sanctions.

If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement noticeboard]] or [[WP:AN|administrators' noticeboard]]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:36, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reminder to administrators: In May 2014, ArbCom adopted the following procedure instructing administrators regarding Arbitration Enforcement blocks: "No administrator may modify a sanction placed by another administrator without: (1) the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or (2) prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes" [in the procedure]). Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped."

Report at AE

[2]--יניב הורון (Yaniv) (talk) 22:19, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

June 2018

To enforce an arbitration decision and for violating WP:ARBPIA3 for the third time, you have been blocked indefinitely from editing.

If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement noticeboard]] or [[WP:AN|administrators' noticeboard]]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page. NeilN ^{talk to me} 02:51, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reminder to administrators: In May 2014, ArbCom adopted the following procedure instructing administrators regarding Arbitration Enforcement blocks: "No administrator may modify a sanction placed by another administrator without: (1) the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or (2) prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes" [in the procedure]). Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped."

First year is under arbitration enforcement. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 02:52, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]