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Ross Ulbricht
[edit]Hello, you have removed the link to Ross Ulbricht's Twitter which I have added. Can you explain it a bit more why you have removed it ? Emil Engler (talk) 12:49, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- I believe we don't generally link to Twitter accounts in the infobox or external links section, per WP:ELNO. Normally it would be ok to include a link to one "official website" owned by the article subject. I believe he has a website that qualifies as that, and that it would be ok to include it as an external link. --Tataral (talk) 00:09, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
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Your proposal on the MJ restructure
[edit]Salut Tataral, have just seen your proposal on the restructure of the Jackson article. I'd suggest listing all subsections under Life and Career and Artistry rather than just saying there are 10 and 5 sub-sections under each. The way it's presented now could give the appearance that the Allegations section would get more prominence in the article than in actuality. Cheers. Oska (talk) 23:52, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
- I see your point. I'll do that. --Tataral (talk) 20:44, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
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Request for consensus on 1993 child sexual abuse accusations page
[edit]Could I ask for you to submit a vote on the Talk page please? There are some issues today. Regards, Hammelsmith (talk) 20:05, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
I'm so so sorry to bother you again, but if you could offer Partytemple & I an opinion to launch from, it would help our stalemate. Cheers & Regards, Hammelsmith (talk) 01:28, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
- I haven't paid attention to the Jackson articles lately, so I'm not sure I'm going to involve myself in any debates there right now. --Tataral (talk) 12:48, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Anti-fascism articles
[edit]I have some pretty serious concerns about your spate of recent edits to the anti-fascism article set. Frankly these massive additions seem an awful lot like an attempt to coatrack an article series of significant current relevance to modern politics into an airing of grievances over something that happened in a country that no longer exists, long ago. There's also issues of WP:DUE and WP:WEASEL with these edits - which your refusal to listen at our point of first contact, Antifa (United States) did little to dispel.
I would very much like to caution you to go to article talk, propose your changes, make your case, and then let other people (and certainly not just myself) have a say before attempting to systematically rewrite the history of resistance to fascism. Simonm223 (talk) 13:39, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- I caution you against massive blanking/deletion of sourced content that you don't like. If you have any issues with any of the content you need to bring it up specifically on the talk page and state your reason there instead of blanking content. Your previous revert-warring to reintroduce an outdated source instead of a better one is one example of unacceptable behaviour. So far your only activity in connection with the article on post WWII-Antifa movements has been revert-warring withour even familiarising yourself with the content and article history --Tataral (talk) 14:15, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- You were very WP:BOLD. Per WP:BRD having identified multiple problems with your bold edits, I reverted them and started a discussion. The issue with regard to the German source was because I didn't notice that the same words had a different date on them. As I mentioned at the time. Now. Discuss your edits and seek consensus. Because this spree isn't good practice. Simonm223 (talk) 14:17, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- No, you, an editor with no history of contributing to the article in a constructive manner, do not hold a veto over all my edits, to a short article that is at a very undeveloped stage. If you have any objection to any specific content you need to state your reason on the talk page, and we can talk. --Tataral (talk) 14:19, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- I think you can safely assume that if an article touches on antifascism I've at least been watching it. And my not having been active on it for a while doesn't mean I can't revert an obviously WP:NPOV violating major revision. So again, simply, discuss your edits on article talk and get a diversity of opinions. Simonm223 (talk) 14:20, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- No, you, an editor with no history of contributing to the article in a constructive manner, do not hold a veto over all my edits, to a short article that is at a very undeveloped stage. If you have any objection to any specific content you need to state your reason on the talk page, and we can talk. --Tataral (talk) 14:19, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- You were very WP:BOLD. Per WP:BRD having identified multiple problems with your bold edits, I reverted them and started a discussion. The issue with regard to the German source was because I didn't notice that the same words had a different date on them. As I mentioned at the time. Now. Discuss your edits and seek consensus. Because this spree isn't good practice. Simonm223 (talk) 14:17, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
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July 2019
[edit] You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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Bernie Sanders
[edit]Hello. I'm 直蔵 from Japan. In your edit of Bernie Sanders citing The Times of Israel, there is a word "dramatically" in the citation. However, when I look into the source now, there is no word in his remark. Can you check by yourself and if confirmed, remove the word please? Or, if there is another source to have the word, please add it as well. I have no right to edit on the page. The citation is now moved into "Foreign relations" in the same section. Thank you. --直蔵 (talk) 08:49, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- An editor added another source to confirm the word. The problem has been solved. --直蔵 (talk) 13:54, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
You made a mess of Talk:Post-World War II anti-fascism
[edit]by moving your comments out of a discussion, leaving Rupert Loup's replies to you confusing. See WP:TALK#REPLIED. Doing this was disruptive and confused me completely until I looked at the edit history. Please don't do it again, consider this an only warning on this issue. Doug Weller talk 12:19, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
- No I didn't, I left them in the original section where the discussion was started, and where they belong, not in some year-old unrelated section on a different text that is long gone. I moved the entire discussion to the most recent section dealing with the current text, but he edit-warred because he objected to his comments being moved, so only then I moved my comments only to the correct section because I didn't feel inclined to edit-war with him over his comments. If his replies look meaningless, it's entirely his own fault, and he is free to comment in the section that is actually dealing with the current article at any time. Bring it up with him. --Tataral (talk) 13:11, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Scribid
[edit]Hello Tataral, I am aware that you may very well be immersed into your own current wiki-concerns, but I would really appreciate if you could spare few minutes of your time to release that one article with Vladan's Petković interview from Norwegian paper, which you uploaded on Scribid (article - link to your upload), from their "Premium Content policy", so that article can be read in full without need for upload-for-download requirement, which is condition for both download and full availability for reading. At this moment only portion of the document is available for reading, namely the first page, while the second page isn't, unless reader contribute/upload five(!) documents himself, which is horribly annoying, but more importantly could be used as an argument against interview's usage as a source in Wikipedia article, where you intended to be used in the first place (Boris Malagurski). This shouldn't take you too much time, you just need to open your Scribid "Account Settings" and scroll down, you will see section "Document Upload Settings" at the very bottom with "Reader Access" setting where you need to place button to "on" position (it gets blue-green). This should make that interview fully available for reading, and nobody could reject it for any reasons if we decide to use it as a source for reference. Thanks, in any case.--౪ Santa ౪99° 21:17, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
- I don't have access to that account with Petković' article any longer. I got tired of the Malagurski article which is clearly a promotional autobiography where any attempt to balance the article is immediately reverted. --Tataral (talk) 23:10, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks anyway - I am sorry, I haven't got an alert on your reply here at all, so I couldn't thank you earlier, and yes, I understand exactly what you are talking about, but we will sort it out that issue now, sooner rather than later, anyway. Stay safe and take care.--౪ Santa ౪99° 03:46, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
The TerraMar Project and Ghislaine Maxwell
[edit]Greetings Tataral, The recent revisions you made to the pages for The TerraMar Project and Ghislaine Maxwell state that Epstein and Maxwell founded Terra Mar, not just Maxwell. This statement may well be true but it concerns me that it is currently unsupported in each of the articles, absent a citation to a reliable source or sources. Can you kindly clarify where this content has come from by adding a citation (or citations) after the statements you added to each lede? Best Regards, Cedar777 (talk) 05:17, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Julia Shaw
[edit]I added something in the article "Julia Shaw" and on the discussion page. You might be interested. Mr. bobby (talk) 16:34, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]Numbering of german chancellors
[edit]Hey Tataral! :) Please note that I have answered you on the Chancellor of Germany-talk page, in order to provide evidence that counting office-holders, starting with Konrad Adenauer, is, at least to some extent, common practice for German chancellors in Germany. We can still discuss how common this must be for it to appear in Wikipedia, but I honestly do not know how exactly to draw the line from a methodological point of view. We can also philosophize about the extent to which this is a result of the Americanization of German politics - if your assertion is correct that something like this is not common in other European countries (I wouldn't be so sure about that either, but I'll leave that aside here). But I don't think that would be very relevant to the question itself. I am looking forward to read from you - stay healthy! ;) Alektor89 (talk) 19:37, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
Miriam Adelson
[edit]Why do you keep changing Miriam Adelson's birthplace to Israel when the country didn't exist when she was born? See Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Country of birth — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.222.122.60 (talk) 12:41, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- I haven't made any changes to her birthplace. That was done by someone else. --Tataral (talk) 18:59, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
Nomination of Jim Crow caucus for deletion
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[edit]Hi Tataral, I saw your comment regarding the focus of this article. I entirely agree. Could you check it out, It tried to clean it up a bit, removed the items not related to thatn historical field of study. --Nug (talk) 17:07, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not quite happy with that article and I believe it requires a lot of work, but I'm probably going to be too busy with Putin to look into that article again right now. --Tataral (talk) 13:00, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
note - redact IS a Wiki guideline
[edit]so, please do not edit your comments once someone has responded to you - thanks ... -HammerFilmFan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.111.36.47 (talk) 15:03, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
Trump family tree
[edit]I've been trying to find cites for the unsourced older branches of the family tree you created on Trump family in November 2016, starting with this this edit. (The page was recently merged into Family of Donald Trump.) Trump biographer Gwenda Blair mentions a Hans Drumpft moving to Kallstadt in 1608 and a John Philip Trump established as a wine grower at the end of the 17th century (without actually saying that they were Trump's ancestors) but then skips to the 19th century and Trump's great-grandfather Johannes Christian. Where did you find the info? Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 14:49, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- This is more than five years ago, so I don't really remember that much about that material. --Tataral (talk) 23:38, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi, I didn’t want to revert your edits, as I know they are in good faith. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding is you include the birth name when the person gained the notability under that name, in other words I was looking at MOS:GENDERID, but I don’t know if MOS:DEADNAME applies? Equine-man (talk) 22:00, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
Proposed GA nomination of Angela Merkel
[edit]Hi! I'd like to nominate Angela Merkel for consideration as a Good Article, and I'm reaching out to you as you are one of its most significant contributors. I have fixed some issues with that article, and I expanded it a little in some places, but I still feel that this is the right way to go per WP:GAN/I#N1.
Please let me know what you think of this. I'm also reaching out to some other top contributors, but one of them has been banned, and another one hasn't been active since 2018. Actualcpscm (talk) 20:08, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
Says who? Says WP:RECENTISM and WP:REDUNDANTFORK. I don't see any reason to create an article on the mugshot itself just yet. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 01:31, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- You can start a debate or nominate it for deletion. You cannot unilaterally decide that we are not going to have this article. This was just described as the most important and iconic photograph taken of any president on CNN and has been the subject of extensive commentary even for months before it was taken. --Tataral (talk) 01:32, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
Deletion discussion about Mug shot of Donald Trump
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Images for German political scientists
[edit]So, it seems we're in a dispute on the page of an American huntress. In the interests of peace, harmony, general mutual appreciation, and to show there are no specific hard feelings, I found and added some images to articles you wrote that lacked photos.(That is sort of my thing. ) Apparently your specialty is German political scientists? Hope you like. --GRuban (talk) 20:01, 19 July 2024 (UTC)